- Location
- Germany
[X] Plan Clear Her Head
[X] Plan Brass Tacks
Allies, Contacts and Retainers are also supposed to be limited, yet we can draw hit-squads from our Hell without issue and even before that our Jade Dogs would have scratched the upper limits on what Retainers allow for:
Just the ghouls, the Whampires, Isabella and now the former bodyguard break that background.
So there's enough precedent set that I'm not sure Lash will keep her Thralls as sharply limited as a TTRPG-player might.
[X] Plan Brass Tacks
Yeah, but I'm a bit wary about rules like this when they aren't mechanically enforced.The binding rules do explicitly say that you're not supposed to spam the ability. Each thrall is supposed to be a significant event in the game in it of themselves, making dozens of thralls to game the faith system that it supposed to be difficult to raise breaks the game.
The example demon it gives us is in the mid game and has 3 total thralls. That says something about what the rules are designed for here. Any plan that involves her taking more than single digit thralls over the the next year should be discarded out of hand.
Allies, Contacts and Retainers are also supposed to be limited, yet we can draw hit-squads from our Hell without issue and even before that our Jade Dogs would have scratched the upper limits on what Retainers allow for:
We are not limited to 5, obviously.Retainers
Not precisely Allies or Contacts, your retainers are servants, assistants, or other people who are your loyal and steadfast companions. Many vampires' servants are ghouls (p. 496) — their supernatural powers and blood bond-enforced loyalty make them the servants of choice. Retainers may also be people whom you've repeatedly Dominated until they have no free will left, or followers so enthralled with your Presence that their loyalty borders on blind fanaticism. Some vampires, particularly those with the Animalism Discipline, use animal ghouls as retainers.You must maintain some control over your retainers, whether through a salary, the gift of your vitae, or the use of Disciplines. Retainers are never "blindly loyal no matter what" — if you treat them poorly without exercising strict control, they might well turn on you.Retainers may be useful, but they should never be flawless. A physically powerful ghoul might be rebellious, inconveniently dull-witted, or lacking in practical skills. A loyal manservant might be physically weak or possess no real personal initiative or creativity. This Background isn't an excuse to craft an unstoppable bodyguard or pet assassin — it's a method to bring more fully-developed characters into the chronicle, as well as to reflect the followers for which the Kindred are notorious. Generally, retainers are more like Renfield than Anita Blake. (If the player and Storyteller agree, a player may create a more competent single Retainer by combining more points in this Background, putting more eggs in one basket, as the saying goes.)Players can spend pooled Background points on Retainers.
• One retainer•• Two retainers••• Three retainers•••• Four retainers••••• Five retainers
Just the ghouls, the Whampires, Isabella and now the former bodyguard break that background.
So there's enough precedent set that I'm not sure Lash will keep her Thralls as sharply limited as a TTRPG-player might.