Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] To the City of Endings, you did pledge to take her there in relation to her plan regarding taking in ghosts
 
[X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom


I am tempted by endings. Very tempted. But let's divert from business for a moment.

Hmm, would Lydia using Awakened Eye of the Dragon on a Dragon's Nest in our kingdom work? For that matter, can Lydia learn Ancient Sorcery? Hmm, that might be an in-story evidence for her actually being an exalt.
In fairness yog lydias interests probably do lend towards the city of endings it involves her intimacy stuff and shes weird.
 
Hmm, would Lydia using Awakened Eye of the Dragon on a Dragon's Nest in our kingdom work? For that matter, can Lydia learn Ancient Sorcery? Hmm, that might be an in-story evidence for her actually being an exalt.

The only way to know if she can learn Ancient Sorcery is to try, it is kind of the nature of the art given its origin and present state.
 
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[X] To the City of Endings, you did pledge to take her there in relation to her plan regarding taking in ghosts
 
"Yeah, but he is also my brother, someone has to tell you what you are getting into before you're in too deep," you keep up the light tone, even as a darker thought adds: or he's in too deep. At least Lydia does not seem to care about the difference in ages, not even enough to tease you the way Izzy would, oh no it's much much worse than that... Lydia is into courtly romance.
Oh shit, a shipper.

[X] To the Wastes, under the endless storms, you can feel their power flexing far above and know it is yours to call. Why not play around with it a bit which one of the few witnesses who would not find it disconcerting

When are we going to have this opportunity again? We've been responsible lately, a little delay won't kill anyone deader than they already are.
 
[X] To the City of Endings, you did pledge to take her there in relation to her plan regarding taking in ghosts
 
[x] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom

We are here for fun, we are not doing that project for a couple of months at the earliest anyway.
 
Instead of placing the burden on Lydia and Molly alone we could start involving the locals who might otherwise oppose us.
People who might still change their minds and oppose us later then decide to somehow use our agreement for hostile action. If a ghost we brought in ask to leave will we allow it? If so they can become spys before or after entering.

Keep in mind the more complex a system the more corruptable it is.
Set it as an attuned item that doesn't need to be used by an exalt with an AoE effect to transport its passengers to a specific location in the FCF with two additional activation requirements. Firstly that the targets must be the unquiet dead, and secondly that the 'fare' for passage is all of the consumable resources they have on them.
That also sounds like a bad idea... If someone malevolent has the item is it possible to subvert or learn from something we made to give a ticket straight to our soul?
 
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People who might still change their minds and oppose us later then deside to somehow use our agreement for hostile action. If a ghost we brought in ask to leave will we allow it? If so they can become spys before or after entering.

Keep in mind the more complex a system the more corruptable it is.
We need to be careful about who we involve yes, but not involving them doesn't make them go away.
That also sounds like a bad idea... If someone malevolent has the item is it possible to subvert or learn from something we made to give a ticket straight to our soul?
I'm talking about making a single train sized structure that has one narrow scope function.

It's possible they could do something with that, but it'd require stealing a train engine from an underground terminal without appropriate surface access and engineering new functionality out of it that isn't present in the base device. Spiritually drawing souls to an afterlife isn't the same as opening a physical portal for the living*, it's arguable if the targeting parameters would even be the same.

That's a significant amount of novel work to do if you can even get the thing away from us in the first place. It's not without risk, but something like this should be fairly manageable.

* See how physical movement using Ways requires careful management of position on either side of the border, but you can just summon spirits in the nevernever to wherever in the mortal world. Clearly not the same mechanism.
 
[X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom
 
[X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom
 
[X] To the City of Endings, you did pledge to take her there in relation to her plan regarding taking in ghosts
 
[X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom
 
[X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom
 
Still don't care for the Dresden crush but its harmless as is.
[X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom
 
[X] To the Wastes, under the endless storms, you can feel their power flexing far above and know it is yours to call. Why not play around with it a bit which one of the few witnesses who would not find it disconcerting
 
[X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom
 
Well sure. I'm simply saying that involving would be hostiles with our soul transport might not actually be a smart idea.
I think we're talking past each other here.

Not every, or necessarily a majority, of the people who'd oppose us on this are untrustworthy or morally dubious themselves.

If Molly wasn't a known factor to him starting this is the kind of thing that would get Dresden loaded for bear and coming around asking questions.

For less powerful/suicidal people like Tuzi or Mort we would instead see stuff like them actively hiding ghosts and moving them away from us. There are also untrustworthy actors like necromancers who'd object, which we obviously shouldn't trust. That doesn't change the fact that turning the ones who are only hostile because we look like we might be eating innocent souls or dragging them away for an eternity of torture to maximize power extraction from opponents into allies would make it easier to operate.

The point of using a centralized of location for this would be that the actual device would remain in our control and they'd only be involved in moving the ghosts to it.

Taking it would involve moving an entire train engine out of undertown and through Chicago after having broken Last Station.

Having done it hat they'd need to reverse engineer exalted enchanting, extrapolate a spirit link only capable of carrying souls divested of supernatural power into something substantial enough to carry a threatening payload, then actually implement it.

That's not impossible, but the easiest part of that process is probably smuggling a train engine stuck in an underground cavern only accessible by human scale tunnels up and out of a major metropolitan area before your hidden exalt interrupt timer goes off without breaking it.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Sep 30, 2023 at 11:16 PM, finished with 29 posts and 15 votes.

  • [X] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom
    [X] To the City of Endings, you did pledge to take her there in relation to her plan regarding taking in ghosts
    [X] To the Wastes, under the endless storms, you can feel their power flexing far above and know it is yours to call. Why not play around with it a bit which one of the few witnesses who would not find it disconcerting
 
[x] To the City of Fountains, were among the singing waters all the arts are represented from rhetoric to architecture, calligraphy to swordsmanship, new expertness are sampled and at times new lives bloom

We are here for fun, we are not doing that project for a couple of months at the earliest anyway.
ngl I find magic and shit from the city of endings really really interesting. Now if I had to live in one of these regions I'd choose the city of fountains. But, if I had a limited visit I'd choose the city of endings as I'm really interested in their stuff.
 
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