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[X] You can afford to be a little late, try to defuse the situation
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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[X] You can afford to be a little late, try to defuse the situation
-[X] Send a warning ahead - the situation is developing, so a couple of minutes of delays can be expected.
-[X] Excellencies as appropriate
I don't like being late as a first impression of us for the powerful politicians, but if we explain that Harry Dresden is a representative of a ruling body of mortal wizards in the world of our origin, that should be enough. And Michael both wouldn't want to leave our side, and is not equipped for this.
-[X] Send a warning ahead - the situation is developing, so a couple of minutes of delays can be expected.
-[X] Excellencies as appropriate
I don't like being late as a first impression of us for the powerful politicians, but if we explain that Harry Dresden is a representative of a ruling body of mortal wizards in the world of our origin, that should be enough. And Michael both wouldn't want to leave our side, and is not equipped for this.
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I keep forgeting Harry's opinion is kind of important. Too bad he understands just enough to know how incredulous all of this is and not much more e_e.
[X] You can afford to be a little late, try to defuse the situation
-[X] Send a warning ahead - the situation is developing, so a couple of minutes of delays can be expected.
[X] You can afford to be a little late, try to defuse the situation
-[X] Send a warning ahead - the situation is developing, so a couple of minutes of delays can be expected.
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I mean, he still trusts Michael, if nothing else, he's unlikely to get White Council to fight us, but "yeah, I'm not dealing with it, and White Council shouldn't contact Molly at all, it's just too alien, and nothing good will come of it" is a distinctly possible fail state. As is "minor practitioners should be kept far away from Molly, for their own good. Her intentions might be good, but she clearly doesn't realize what she's doing".
Hmm. Harry used the phrase Nevernever Domain; and said discovery of them was rare. He referenced Shangri-La. Gods and similar entities realms in the Nevernever aren't rare, however, we saw a not that strong ghost have their own sub-realm of the Nevernever near Chicago in the series, suggesting realms that are just regions or gated off isolated pockets of the Nevernever aren't domains, as they're not that uncommon.
Is it possible that Nevernever Domains are pockets of physical reality you can reach through the Nevernever. Domains in the Nevernever, rather than Domains of the Nevernever?
Is it possible that Nevernever Domains are pockets of physical reality you can reach through the Nevernever. Domains in the Nevernever, rather than Domains of the Nevernever?
It's more likely that he meant that discoveries of stable large scale realms in the NeverNever are rare - either such realms are already known, or they are hard to find. Arawn's kingdom is probably one such domain, but a ghost's sub-realm is not grand, or long lasting, or stable enough to be called such.
1)Its not just gods; old, powerful wizards can and do as well.
According to Butcher, Rashid the Gatekeeper explicitly has a NeverNever domain of his own, but the NeverNever paths that allow you to reach it requires going through the moon.
2) Some may well be.
Remember the village that we passed through on our way to the mountain base?
The one that was pulled in from Earth and whose inhabitants have died out?
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I can't recall if it's ever been properly defined in DF, but I think a good distinction between a NeverNever realm and a domain is probably whether it exists naturally or through the power of sort of entity.
If this is the case, a realm is a distinct environment within the NeverNever, one with well-defined borders of some sort which prevent bleed through between general psychoactive ectoplasm of the NeverNever and the realm itself. The domain is the same, but it was purposely formed and requires some sort of upkeep from the entity who created it, whether that is magic, willpower, their occasional physical presence, etc.
Domains wouldn't necessarily be common, but through the simple fact that they can be created whereas a realm would need to form naturally, you would expect to find them much more often than true realms.
If that's the case "look, our magitech PDA isn't melting into ectoplasm" argument wouldn't work. I mean, the size of the kingdom makes it hard to imagine that it was pulled out of the real world wholesale, but it could be an argument. Even if stuff "it's actually Phaeton" has to be brought in as an explanation, I feel Harry might be stubborn enough to think that, instead of "Molly did an act of Creation".
One thing that we need to establish and prevent Harry from misunderstanding is that the kingdom comes from the crown, not the other way around. Our exaltation isn't some piece of ancient magic somehow lost from this closed-off realm.
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[X] Your father can mediate, ask him to stick around
Being late seems so disrespectful.
Being late seems so disrespectful.
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[X] Your father can mediate, ask him to stick around
Anyone pulled into the nevernever ends up subsumed by ectoplasm eventually, especially if they eat the food there. Random material items seem unlikely to stay unchanged after centuries in that environment even if the mechanics aren't the same.
This is not a meeting scheduled days or weeks in advance; its an impromptu meeting arranged at ten minutes notice.
Our schedule being flexible is to be expected.
Furthermore, a delay only requires an apology.
A misunderstanding with Harry and the organization he represents can be a lot more serious event, and require a lot more time and effort to rectify.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Not an issue.
He's a wizard, and he has access to different means for examining items, from divination to consulting oracular spirits.
Give him the tablet and let him do his own investigations.
[X] You can afford to be a little late, try to defuse the situation
I imagine most pockets of the never never start off as places from the real world that overlapped with the never never until they became synonymous. Or vice versa places where the never never overlap with the real world and impose itself till became more solid and firm
I imagine most pockets of the never never start off as places from the real world that overlapped with the never never until they became synonymous. Or vice versa places where the never never overlap with the real world and impose itself till became more solid and firm
A tablet is neat but having a spirit in it muddies the waters on what's keeping it stable.
Keep it simple and give him a brick, random rock from outside, or a bag of actual garbage acquired from the janitors.
Mundane stuff that has no excuse to avoid immediately turn to goo on entering the material world.
Any of them works, and giving him a variety of materials if he asks works just as well.
But I doubt that an off the shelf tablet has a spirit inside, at least until its activated.
Just get a new one from the local retail outlet, or the palace stores.
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Every piece of tech has a machine spirit, even if it's simple enough to not even be called an animal. A basic data pad would probably have something on the low end of animal animal int to specialized to predict needs and sort data.
All the hell's tech that is not purely mechanical has a spirit in it. Thou 99% of spirits never wake up or develop outside of their original purpose. And even if they do, only the purposed built building sized have the processing power to be important.
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also, while we have talked about the changes to current charms from having our Kingdom, I am a bit more excited for a lot of the charms we haven't yet got. In general Wicked City charms only need a slight bit of work to fit our Five City Infrastructure, the Wind charms of the Flaying hell can be reskinned from sand to the cold metal dust winds easily enough, and even alot of the maggot charms can be re-flavored with Consumer Ice, the most prevalent hazard of the Wastes. Boiling Oils is a bit tricky, we have frozen lakes of oxygen in the wastes but that is less of a 1 to 1 thing.
Not to even mention charms completely based around our hell. The Turning of the Wheel alone can plobobly have half a dozen charms made about it, it would have to be careful to keep them balanced. I imagine a simple one would be something like-
'Kindness By The Blade: When personally ending the life of another with your own abilities, you can spend 1 mote to instead thread them through the Turning Wheel within your soul, sending them back into the world in a safe place with whatever lethal injury you had delt healed'
Not to even mention charms completely based around our hell. The Turning of the Wheel alone can plobobly have half a dozen charms made about it, it would have to be careful to keep them balanced. I imagine a simple one would be something like-
'Kindness By The Blade: When personally ending the life of another with your own abilities, you can spend 1 mote to instead thread them through the Turning Wheel within your soul, sending them back into the world in a safe place with whatever lethal injury you had delt healed'
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This, Harry was being sloppy with his language, making a distinction between capital D Domains, places with a history, inhabitants and a political structure and what are basically bubbles of ephemeral order in the spirit realm centred around one or a few people