[JK] As Big Boss, The Metal Gear Solid character.
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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
- Crossover Fantasy
- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
[X] As Donar Vadderung, Head of Monoc Security
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Could we craft stuff as an implant?
@Yog's ring, for example, could we knock out the recipient, cut them open and slip it firmly upon a rib, then pour a healing option down their throat and have it function as if it was being worn?
Not necessarily. Sure, it's safer to assume more involvement than less, but Monoc could just be in tight with a small black ops program, easily bribed general, etc. Having access to heavy ordinance and a decommissioned military base doesn't take the full weight of the MIC to make happen.
Given the context of this meeting, I don't actually think this would be a bad option. We just did craft him some killer (literally and figuratively) toys, with the assistance of Santa's Elves, so if the pointy shoe with a bell on the end fits...[JK] As Kris Kringle, The Gift-Giver, The Toy-Maker, The Old Elf of The North Pole and Master of The Workshop.
What, it's not wrong.
(Srsly tho, of his aspects, Saint Nick is maybe the kindest, but it's an unlikely pull anyhow. Don't think we're anywhere near Christmas. We're not exactly working on the sleigh either.)
- Location
- Germany
I think our splendors are inherently attuned to a person and it would propably take Ancient Sorcery or something of similarly deep root-access to the workings of reality to steal the ownership.
I don't really see theft as a risk, people who are powerful enough to possibly mess with Exalted craftswork don't need mid-tier artifacts.
I don't really see theft as a risk, people who are powerful enough to possibly mess with Exalted craftswork don't need mid-tier artifacts.
Technically that pain ray is only nonlethal if kept in a certain power range and pointed at people who aren't covered in significant amounts of metal. It's a really inefficient way to kill outright, but disabling equipment and anyone near it is a different matter.
If you blast a group of guys it's going to heat up and electrify anything metal on them. Like say their guns/all the bullets in them.
I also imagine it'd be somewhat bad for a vehicle covered in ERA if you started sending random spikes of power through its hull. It wouldn't kill it, but walking it down a formation and stripping their protections while others go for the kill would make for an unpleasant experience on the other side of the barrel.
[X] As Donar Vadderung, Head of Monoc Security
Taking a splendor already requires killing the owner outright or making them willingly spend a willpower point to give it to you. Which can't be done while it's manifested because you can't sever attunement unless it's dormant.
The loyalty of an Arcana can't be stolen either, though it can be swayed since they're independent beings. If we want to go full paranoid some geas flaws would help make this more certain.
ThatGazzer
Minds Eye Bind
- Location
- PNW
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Okay, fuck it lets try, but you gotta back me up on this
[X] As Kris Kringle, The Gift-Giver, The Toy-Maker, The Old Elf of The North Pole and Master of The Workshop.
- Location
- Germany
For sanity's sake, these are modular options that you have to switch out between missions, right?
Not all in one turret. The ammo-feeds alone would be a mess.
Yes, they are all options, that is why Molly thought Monoc might not use one of them.
Calling a mantle bearer by a name other than the one they've approached in is sort of rude unless they imply something about it.
Mostly because for some of them, including Odin because of how his shell game works, it can briefly push them towards that role which they find annoying.
He showed up as Donar, so we should probably stick to that.
- Location
- Germany
He chose to bring us here by the way of Kringle's workshop though.
Calling him that would be far less innapropriate than Odin or any other title besides Vadderung.
ThatGazzer
Minds Eye Bind
- Location
- PNW
- Pronouns
- They/Them
That's a fair point, but I've already committed to it
(srsly I don't expect this one to win unless something goes wrong)
I have some severe objections to the nonlethal microwave option. There are good reasons why the otherwise (more-or-less) harmless "pain ray" has been a hallmark of the bad guys across all of scifi and fantasy. It has way too much potential for abuse, even if Monoc were going to keep it seceret instead of selling it to the US government, or to whichever entity pays, and from there most certainly leaked to everyone in the world.
Does Molly really want to be responsible for giving a great new device for crowd control and interrogation to every tinpot dictator and warlord in the world (not that democratically elected governments are much better) ?
Besides that, congratulations on writing a great Girl Genius-style Spark Fugue. Molly should cosplay as Agatha Heterodyne next comicon.
And since she is in a Spark Fugue, this would be perfectly appropiate:
[X] As Kris Kringle, The Gift-Giver, The Toy-Maker, The Old Elf of The North Pole and Master of The Workshop.
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Incidentally, this is an amazing trick to sell to the Library.
On a lot of levels it's pretty harmless, since it doesn't shift the balance of power far enough to actually give anyone ideas.
But the ability to at least theoretically build things to mortal specs in mortal factories that can resist basic hexes or protect against any idiot with some magic screwing you unless you have a smarter talent to counter them would be immensely attractive to them.
Monoc has these designs, but reverse engineering them to a base principle while they're mixed up in all the other stuff without a guide isn't an easy task or one they're likely to make a priority to pass along to mortals.
A document outlining the basic math given to their control in exchange for them handling giving us royalties via classified security patents that they set up for us under some confidential corporate scheme could net us some serious money and favors with the feds.
As long as we're confident enough in our ability to manage that sort of heat anyway.
The face he chose is still the face he chose though, we're talking about degrees of unnecessary rudeness.
Both Solaroid and Yozi influences colliding with frustration at such a limited and worn thin world.
[X] As Donar Vadderung, Head of Monoc Security
Better to deal with the aspect she's already been working with, if he wants to speak with Molly as Odin he can do so at his leisure.
Also IIRC he generally prefers people treat him with the courtesy of the role he plays whenever he goes about using another name and veil.
Who is Molly to spoil an old god's fun?
[X] As Donar Vadderung, Head of Monoc Security
Better to deal with the aspect she's already been working with, if he wants to speak with Molly as Odin he can do so at his leisure.
Also IIRC he generally prefers people treat him with the courtesy of the role he plays whenever he goes about using another name and veil.
Who is Molly to spoil an old god's fun?
The US government designed this whole concept to the point of producing full models in 2006 IRL, then shelved it as a bad idea after working out most of the technical issues to a production level because they didn't like what happened in the edge cases.
It isn't everywhere in 2023, so presumably it's not worth the trouble to use at scale.
- Location
- Taken by the hand to a land that they understand
[X] As Donar Vadderung, Head of Monoc Security
Presumably a 10+success design from an Exalt has fixed all those defects.
And even if it didn't, the principle of it remains.
- Location
- Germany
[X] As Donar Vadderung, Head of Monoc Security
They already have access to tear gas and other horrors to inflict pain on people, a microwave really, really doesn't expand the tools available to tyrants and madmen to inflict pain on people who stand against them.
A microwave pain ray sounds very scary, but what it does is already readily available.
There's nothing stopping a tinpot dictator from whipping up a tank of capsaicin and spraying down anyone they don't like.
Whether that be crowds or some poor sod in a torture room.
It is useful against certain kind of supernatural beings whose pain threshold is higher than their heat resistance
All those things presumably leave a lot more physical sequels and evidence of their use than an invisible pain ray. And they require a lot more personnel and consumables.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
You have no idea how much I want to address him as Santa. You have no fucking clue. Sadly, tragically, he is wearing a suit and thus we should give him the respect we would wish for in return.
[X] As Kris Kringle, The Gift-Giver, The Toy-Maker, The Old Elf of The North Pole and Master of The Workshop.
Edit: Fuck it. All in. He'll take it in good humor.
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