Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Case in point from page 305 of the source book:

Let's Kill Caine
Super-powerful high-end adversaries in Ye Olden Days tended to get "stat blocks" that consisted of a little sidebar reading "Suck the snake-dick of Set, nerd. Any character that doesn't run away screaming dies." That isn't how Exalted vs World of Darkness does things. For the most part, statting up an ancient – like, Babylon-ancient – vampire is pretty easy. Give them outrageous dice pools including some Attributes and Abilities in the 7-9 range, a bunch of elder Disciplines, Willpower 8-10, and crank the Generation dial down to 4-5. But even that doesn't tell the whole story when dealing with something like Ur-Shulgi, as described in the books, so let's assume they also have some unique powers – call them combination Disciplines – that make them a worthwhile challenge for the Chosen. Here are some examples to get you started:

Killing Caine is something you can do at the end of a Exalted vs WoD Chronicle, it is thematically appropriate. 'Oh God himself said we can't not kill this asshole. Which one?' :V
In fairness killing Caine in exalted vs world of darkness would still require a team of exalted who are at the very least essence 5 with a whole bunch of charms, high stats, and powers. And take good planning. It's on a similar level to trying to kill the wyrm really.
 
Never understood why or how Caine made childer, it's not like being drained of blood can end him.
Caine despite being a fuck up of biblical proportions is still a human being he's had loves, he's admired certain figures, he's been lonely. I mean he's literally cursed to not be able to have meaningful relationships as far as I can tell I doubt God would of cursed him with that if it wasn't something that'd fuck him up.
 
[X]Plan Speed Kills
[X] Plan Telekinetic Mind Bullets
[X] Plan Telekinetic Mind Bullets

[X]Plan Speed Kills

Given the fact that Telekinetic mind bullets gained a lot of traction, I think you should not approval vote Speed kills, we want to have XP in reserve for the next arc to get the king and kingdom charm for 20 XP, Uju's plan is going to lead to us having to try and keep XP in reserve next arc too, and if it leads to not doing so (which is far from impossible), then it'll be the same song and dance again, don't stop right as we reach the finish line, wait until we're past it to do so.

In fact, let me help the actual reasonable spending plan to win if mine doesn't:

[X] Plan: For the Kingdom

[X] Plan Telekinetic Mind Bullets
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Jun 8, 2023 at 1:23 PM, finished with 327 posts and 48 votes.
 
Changing to this. Though I will laugh if we do not earn enough xp for the Kingdom charm.
 
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[X]Plan Speed Kills

Changing to this. Though I will laugh if we do not earn enough xp for the Kingdom charm.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

But really, if you think that we are in risk of not earning enough XP, Telekinetic is quite close now.

I'll be frank, I care less about my plan winning than about Uju's losing, I want that XP in reserve.
 
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

But really, if you think that we are in risk of not earning enough XP, Telekinetic is quite close now.

I'll be frank, I care less about my plan winning than about Uju's losing, I want that XP in reserve.
I prefer Uju32's plan to the half measure that is the 3rd plan. Either spend all or none.

But yeah. Fair enough. I will approval vote both.
 
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I prefer Uju32's plan to the half measure that is the 3rd plan. Either spend all or none.

We really don't need to spend all though, and the 3rd plan is not going to stop us from picking up the rest of what you want... later.

The XP won't disappear, it isn't burning our pocket, we are not forced to spend all at once every time.
 
We really don't need to spend all though, and the 3rd plan is not going to stop us from picking up the rest of what you want... later.

The XP won't disappear, it isn't burning our pocket, we are not forced to spend all at once every time.
Disagree but yeah. Fair enough. I will approval vote both.
 
[X] Plan Telekinetic Mind Bullets

I really like Lydia getting the last of "must have" 1 dot charms.

And we get some necessary reserves for kingdom charm (though personally I am fine with pushing it back to Christmas, that's also symbolic).
 
You know I have no real opinion on the stacking. But, are we really saying lightspeed is too much here? Exalted has from what I remember a move that would let them parry a moon if it was falling into the planet or a living universe. Shit that lets you punch someone into a duck. There are conceptually instant abilities as far as I know and stuff that messes with cause and affect. Now I know I'm fairly sure we don't have access to any of these but infernals have some other bullshit stuff. Exalted has game breaking bullshit.
 
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