Mercenary Mage Quest: Asur Dogs of War in Warhammer Fantasy
- Thread starter Blackout
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[X] You want to make up for your crimes.
[x] You want to earn redemption.
[x] You want to earn redemption.
[X] You want to earn redemption
[X] You want to make a new start.
[X] You want to make a new start.
I love all the Swordmasters and their characterisations (though I must admit to an internal squee of 'That's my girl!' whenever Liandra appears).
[X] You want to earn redemption.
I prefer this over 'making up for your crimes' because it uses the verb 'earn' and it feels like a broader, more philosophical approach. She's not universally focusing on her own crimes, she's focusing on herself and how she conducts herself more broadly in this new phase of her life. That feels like it's the most in character to me for her current mindset and also a direction I'd like her to explore (and since it's not a permanent choice, just a reflection of where her mind is now, who knows what the destination will be?).
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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- Belgium
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- He
Elena seems to be the one who dislikes us (own at least our group's actual situation) the most. This is probably in some part due to her own guilt that she's projecting on us. She will requires careful handling and we should keep an eye on her.
Also fuck you Elena, there's no need to be so snobbish.
Thankfully Ëol is there to keep things straight. As his dad, I'm very proud of him
Same for me with Ëol.I love all the Swordmasters and their characterisations (though I must admit to an internal squee of 'That's my girl!' whenever Liandra appears).
Tabascoheath
Unkempt, Evil-eyed Charlatan, and Pseudo-Mystic
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[X] You want to make up for your crimes.
Blackout
Fed By Comments
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The way I would see it, out of the Swordmasters Eöl has the most personal loyalty to Fanriel, considering she gave him a purpose in life and saved him from the path of becoming a Pleasure Cultist. A lot of the others are there because they like or respect her as a person, but Eöl probably feels like he owes her his life.Elena seems to be the one who dislikes us (own at least our group's actual situation) the most. This is probably in some part due to her own guilt that she's projecting on us. She will requires careful handling and we should keep an eye on her.
Also fuck you Elena, there's no need to be so snobbish.
Thankfully Ëol is there to keep things straight. As his dad, I'm very proud of him
Same for me with Ëol.
And they're Asur, they're all snobbish, Elena is just the most willing to voice it. In fact most of the Swordmasters are Asur nobility, which is like snobbishness squared.
IEatAssSometimes
You can just call me Alcor if you're a coward
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Do you mind explaning the difference please?
Blackout
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Earning redemption puts the emphasis on Fanriel herself, while making up for your crimes puts the emphasis on what she did.
Redemption means becoming a better person than the one who got 745 elves killed, while making up means finding a way to balance the scales your actions tipped over, in the direct or abstract sense.
As an extreme example, if Fanriel converted to Chaos and used a daemonic ritual to resurrect all of the people who died, well, that would mean making up for her actions, but you can't really call that redeemed, can you? Or Fanriel could master her Curse, became a paragon of virtue and prove that she's a changed elf, but still never manage to materially make up for the damage she caused.
[X] You want to earn redemption.
I figure if the best way to do this just so happens to end with us standing on a small mountain of chaos worshipper corpses all the better.
Edit: I completely forgot to add
[X] You want to kill as many servants of Chaos as you can.
I figure if the best way to do this just so happens to end with us standing on a small mountain of chaos worshipper corpses all the better.
Edit: I completely forgot to add
[X] You want to kill as many servants of Chaos as you can.
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I will add
[X] You want to earn redemption.
[X] You want to make a new start.
too.
Although if the fleet admiral rolls a natural 100, he may masterfully manipulate Norscan and Druchii fleets putting them in our path, while sending an assassin of his personal secret society, that every once in a while eliminates inconvenient Asur "for the greater good"
[X] You want to earn redemption.
[X] You want to make a new start.
too.
Although if the fleet admiral rolls a natural 100, he may masterfully manipulate Norscan and Druchii fleets putting them in our path, while sending an assassin of his personal secret society, that every once in a while eliminates inconvenient Asur "for the greater good"
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Just letting you know, that vote overrides your previous vote.
So if you want to vote for both Redemption and Fresh Start, you need to include them in the same post.
[X] You want to make up for your crimes.
Blackout
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As an example to further illustrate the difference, if you happen to have played the DLCs to the original Dishonored (Knife of Dunwall and Brigmore Witches, to be specific), Daud makes up for his crimes by saving the daughter of the woman he murdered from being possessed, but he redeems himself only if you do a Low Chaos run, showing that he's become a better man and put his assassin's ways behind him by going for nonlethal takedowns and acting selflessly rather than as a coldblooded killer.
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- Bretonnia
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Oh, with that explained, 'make up for your crimes' sounds like an awful option. Would much rather become a better person and never be pardoned, rather than not change at all and end up being pardoned. Well, I doubt 'make up for your crimes' would result in a pardoning, but it's still pretty bad... Fanriel doesn't change at all, she just performs an act that makes up for her previous act of killing 500+ elves. Yeah... no.
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I mean, 'make up for your crimes' doesn't preclude redemption, it's just a matter of which she considers more important: becoming a better person or making up for what she did. I feel like, with either of those options, she's aiming for both it's just a matter of which she prioritizes over the other.
Which is probably still an argument for redemption, mind you, but I don't think picking another option means we're giving up on redemption any more than another option picked over 'kill Chaos' means we're not gonna kill Chaos stuff...it's still on the list, just not the top of the list.
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Don't think of it as a binary choice, like in Blackout's last example you can do both and ultimately I think both is what she should strive for, to somehow make things right to what she did and a become a better person that can control her curse.
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I'd still rather focus on becoming a better person first and foremost rather than simply making up for our crimes.
Blackout
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Picking the dwarfs, thus prioritizing the mission over Fanriel's comfort.
Because you are going to have to listen to them bitch about having to work with an elf all the way to Jaarpen and back.
That's okay, our sword will induce more than enough dwarfen teeth-grinding to make up for it.