Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

DragonParadox said:

Other spirits call us monsters because we scratch our lovers and cast their lifeblood on the sheets. Do they care that we explain the cost?

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J's favorite artist: Ted Nugent

… would it qualify as insensitive to make that her ring tone if we stay in contact?

Nyarky said:

if he had died from actual complications of their relationship? There might have been things to say (though still not the one said), but there?

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What things? If we can trust her word then they were in love and J was aware from the start what the consequences would be. It's possible something darker was happening, but if the guy was legitimately willing to accept the cost of the relationship it's just a tragedy of magical biology.

DragonParadox said:

It is a secret about the relationship between a spirit and a shaman, that is occult enough, especially considering that when the senri was miserable Molly ran the risk of getting drained.

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We definitely should do some research and talk to Thomas, and maybe use a Crown question. Because whampire's Hunger is sorta-kinda like a spirit, and almost everyone is magic, and there's bound to be something there.

EDIT: And Bob would be over the moon for writing magical spirit Kamasutra.

These guys are probably CoDs right? So DPE should be workable for stunt fodder.

[X] Make it very clear you are powerful and in charge, willing and able to deal with the servants of Kakauri, no matter who they are or how many of them
-[X] Activate Etiquette and Empathy excellencies
-[X] Activate ATB
-[X] Stunt: As the bell chimed over the door Molly stepped into the tea shop and looked around the room, shadows flickering subtly to draw her attention to details that might escape notice.
—[X] As the eye behind her heart opened, a gust of wind carrying the scent of fire brushed into the room. Feeling for a moment like the breath of a great beast as it peers into a space too small for it.

From earlier, we have the ruling that DPE's impact during positive social interactions is more like people being flattered (and nervous) about something with the power of an archfiend being polite, so that's what I'm going for here.

Also think it's worth adding ATB because we're dealing with these guys for the first time and could learn a lot.

DragonParadox said:

Molly ran the risk of getting drained.

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Just out of curiosity, would that have had the same effect on Tuzi as a vampire feeding on Molly? I don't think we have anything on us for treating magical radiation poisoning.

BronzeTongue said:

What things? If we can trust her word then they were in love and J was aware from the start what the consequences would be. It's possible something darker was happening, but if the guy was legitimately willing to accept the cost of the relationship it's just a tragedy of magical biology.

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Agreed. I can see myself making the choice to shave off years or accept risk for someone I love or something that truly makes me happy. Would you rather live to ninety with something in your chest that is always empty, that chews at you in its absence, or seventy-five or eighty but capable of smiling most days without it feeling like you are putting on a mask? Sadness and emptiness kill just as surely, often accompanied by those same ills that were referenced. Its easy to take up the bottle, or the rope and needle, or a thousand other harms... and I'd rather someone find more genuine joy than such things would provide.

A man's years are the currency he trades for that which he deems worthwhile. Sacrificed all at once, one second at a time, or anywhere in between.

BronzeTongue said:

These guys are probably CoDs right? So DPE should be workable for stunt fodder.

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The cat wasn't unless our roll started at difficulty 8 for some reason.

fictionfan said:

The cat wasn't unless our roll started at difficulty 8 for some reason.

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Well she was evidently drowning in grief and running some incoherent plan to either point us at her peers so we could help them or hurt them. I mean she went from implying she wanted our poking to get the shamans killed to wanting us to murder her partner's killer and prove that she wasn't involved to them in the space of one conversation, which doesn't scan as emotionally stable to me.

It's possible she wasn't even sure we were safe to approach and just sort of cared less about the consequences of her actions at the time.

Given that context starting at 8 would make sense considering how we were trying to get her to do something constructive and uncomfortable instead of enabling her spiral.

On a meta level, supernatural beings with an association with death almost always CoD, especially if they aren't the glowing with heavenly glory kind of spirit. It's possible Tuzi isn't, but it'd be unusual.

Her friends might not be, but I'd give it good odds that they are given the statistics we have so far for supernaturals.

Ok, with 2 essence being restored, I think we can afford to spend another point on ATB

[X] Present a united front. You may lead, but the alliance of great powers is backing you up. You are willing and able to deal with the servants of Kakauri, no matter who they are or how many of them
-[X] Leadership excellency to make others give a better "united front" impression; Etiquette excellency for talking, All Things Betray for safety
--[X] STUNT: "If it isn't too painful for you, yes. Introductions will probably go better if you are there" you say gently, before you move, slightly in front of others, to the entrance, your movements in sync with theirs which can only be achieved by years of working together or, well, by magic.

BronzeTongue said:

These guys are probably CoDs right? So DPE should be workable for stunt fodder.

[X] Make it very clear you are powerful and in charge, willing and able to deal with the servants of Kakauri, no matter who they are or how many of them
-[X] Activate Etiquette and Empathy excellencies
-[X] Activate ATB
-[X] Stunt: As the bell chimed over the door Molly stepped into the tea shop and looked around the room, shadows flickering subtly to draw her attention to details that might escape notice.
—[X] As the eye behind her heart opened, a gust of wind carrying the scent of fire brushed into the room. Feeling for a moment like the breath of a great beast as it peers into a space too small for it.

From earlier, we have the ruling that DPE's impact during positive social interactions is more like people being flattered (and nervous) about something with the power of an archfiend being polite, so that's what I'm going for here.

Also think it's worth adding ATB because we're dealing with these guys for the first time and could learn a lot.


Just out of curiosity, would that have had the same effect on Tuzi as a vampire feeding on Molly? I don't think we have anything on us for treating magical radiation poisoning.

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Yeah, it would have been pretty nasty for the spirit and she would have needed healing. Your best bet would have been to get her to Harry and see if he knew anything that could help

[X] Present a united front. You may lead, but the alliance of great powers is backing you up. You are willing and able to deal with the servants of Kakauri, no matter who they are or how many of them
-[X] Leadership excellency to make others give a better "united front" impression; Etiquette excellency for talking, All Things Betray for safety
--[X] STUNT: "If it isn't too painful for you, yes. Introductions will probably go better if you are there" you say gently, before you move, slightly in front of others, to the entrance, your movements in sync with theirs which can only be achieved by years of working together or, well, by magic.

DragonParadox said:

Yeah, it would have been pretty nasty for the spirit and she would have needed healing. Your best bet would have been to get her to Harry and see if he knew anything that could help

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Would medical treatment for spirits belong to the Healing Path of Sorcery or does it fall under Mana Manipulation?

@Yog: Do you think that it would be possible to fit the Dragon kings of Exalted into the 5 fold court? It would be nice to have a tie in to the Exalted world and seem to fit so well with their built in reincarnation. Maybe thwick the Gurvel a little?

fictionfan said:

@Yog: Do you think that it would be possible to fit the Dragon kings of Exalted into the 5 fold court? It would be nice to have a tie in to the Exalted world and seem to fit so well with their built in reincarnation.

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Gurvel are at least somewhat based on them. I deliberately stayed away from direct exalted inserts. A lot of things inspired by exalted. A lot of things that are probably exalted legacies. At least some things from exalted era that need to be discovered. But no deliberate stuff from Exalted that is out and about. It feels too cheap and easy.

I mean, there might well be a dragon king in a stasis tube somewhere in the Great Labyrinth. Perhaps even a colony of them. We'll need to go and explore.

I modified Mu based on Yog's own build by adding Lord of the Land and taking Pockets of Safty instead of Harsh Weather. This way it better fits the colonization drive of the story.

Also I deliberatly left the character of the Devils and Humans blank so that we can all fill it in later but what kind of races would you want to see?

So, I did some math. Let's say that within a city of 10 billion, half are actually religious enough to be used in Prayer Eating rituals. That's 5E9. That's a lot. The bottleneck is probably going to be how much clergy is available. In USA, there were ~ 50k clergy employed in 2021, out of population of ~ 330 million. That's roughly 1.5 people per 10 thousand population. Given that this is a hell, we are going to high loyalty, i.e. the role of religion is higher than in USA, and there's a lot of spirituality and magic going around, I feel confident in upping this number to 5 per ten thousand, or 0.5 per thousand. So, out of ten billion, there would be 5 million priests. Let's say that one in ten of them is capable of Prayer Eating. That's 5E5 people. Let's say that on average each of them has 6 dice for Charisma + Performance. On average that's 2.3 successes. So, a coordinated Prayer Eating ritual conducted in a general population of the whole city will generate roughly 1 million motes of Essence. Let's say that additional logistics and thaumaturgical inefficiencies would lower this by two orders of magnitude. That's still 10k Essence we could use if we set up a large scale working. And this is an extreme low-balled number.

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I am fairly sure that Wonderworking craft manual is not set up to handle kilomotes of essence being thrown at a problem. Even assuming that the modern "mote" is at most 1/10th of E2 mote, that's still a kilomote we would be playing with. That's Primordial Glory level of energy. I am not saying "reforge the Maidens as Court city gods", but... reforge the Maidens.


@DragonParadox if possible, could I trouble you to move the threadmark for the Residents of the Courts to here. That's a bit updated version compared to the threadmark that is set up right now.

Yog said:

kilomote

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That is one of those words where, if you are seriously using it in part of Exalted planning, something has either gone very wrong or horribly, horribly right. I'm not sure which this is, but it's definitely something.

BronzeTongue said:

What things? If we can trust her word then they were in love and J was aware from the start what the consequences would be. It's possible something darker was happening, but if the guy was legitimately willing to accept the cost of the relationship it's just a tragedy of magical biology.

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Do note I said might, I was thinking on the fact that there might have been a situation where there could have been something to say and didn't want to completely close the possibility, but it's clear I didn't convey that properly, the curse of writing format and the illusion of transparency.

I am mostly on the same vibes as you and Modus on their relationship, as long as it was informed consent and they were happy, I would not condemn them for their love, tell them to make sure to enjoy life in its fullest when they can even.

bengalqueen said:

That is one of those words where, if you are seriously using it in part of Exalted planning, something has either gone very wrong or horribly, horribly right. I'm not sure which this is, but it's definitely something.

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You'll note that I had to actually work to avoid using megamote as the measurement unit.

If nothing else, it shows why removing stuff from our realm or channeling power directly from it into the world should be difficult.

Could Molly speak with the heavenly bureaucracy with a bribe of jade like how the devil tigers did? Or is heaven locked off since the Middle Ages and the ritual no longer workers?

Not a lot of votes so far.

[X] Yog

I think we benefit from not confusing the issue here, especially because we probably want to retain control of the situation.

They probably know who Micheal is and Divisimar, as impressive as he is, isn't likely to stack up against this problem. Molly and her personal ability to change the game are the relevant factor here.