Would you Distort or manifest EGO?


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[X] You'll help when able
-[X] Advice: Kill the Eyes, so to leave them blind, Break their Beak, so to leave them defenseless, Snap their Neck, so to leave them dead.
 
[X] You'll help when able

Overthrowing the head is going be an extremely difficult job, but hell if I don't want to take a swing at that.
 
[X] You have too much to worry about already

I'd like to keep the plot contained.

I like what you've done with CENSORED, by the way. I assume looking at it real carefully with Big Eyes would be even more helpful to its coherence.

Maybe someone should try doing the same thing to Fragment of the Universe. Said someone is probably too inebriated to inspire any sort of "coherence" out of it, though.
 
Ok... I dusted off the old cryptic bs Binah-English translator. Let's see if it can make any sense of this...

"Talk- yes… rulers- give- thanks…"
"Willing- give… gratitude- gift…"
"Gave- shape… not long… but helps. Feels stable- won't stay… change…"
"Others… less pure- natural- more… together… Self- not… real- only… secrets…"


"I want to give thanks to you. And yes, I'm willing to talk."
"Yes. I'm grateful for the gift."
"You gave me a shape and form. Just temporary, but it helps. It feels stable for now, but that will change soon enough."
"The other abnormalities are less pure, less natural, than I am. That allows them to pull themselves together into a physical form. But I have no such form to create, for I'm just a concept that represents what you would call secrets."

Simple enough... And X got the gist of it. Let's see the rest.

"Yes… idea opposes-" "Cohesion… But now, siblings- gave this place… gave this shape… but only for a little while."
"Two rulers- one makes understanding, one stores information… enough to pull together. As long as you are here."

"Being the manifestation of what should be kept secret directly opposes the conception of a physical form. But the two of you created this place, which facilitated the creation of this form. Even though the form itself is but temporary..."
"The two of you, one who observes and understands me, and the other who provides a place to store my data, gave me enough to be able to pull together this form. Although, that is only when you(X) are in this place."

And then [CENSORED] is connected to the library. Angela tries to check if [CENSORED] can maintain its form now.


"No, it's still as it was. But that was never in question."
"I'm less of a creature than most of our kin. They're all filtered through human understanding of a concept. But I am the things people don't understand. The things they don't want to know. Secrets that should have stayed secret. I might not even be experiencing this moment of clarity here."
"Maybe this is just what you see when you look at me. What you hear when I make a sound. After all, what's really more believable: That an Abnormality could change what it is, even for a little while, or that when a person comprehends the incomprehensible, all they're left with is a reflection of themself?"
"I have long since resolved myself to your leaving. All I have is a piece of advice, from one Abnormality to another."
"You shouldn't try so hard. To be somebody, I mean. There's only really one sort of person you know how to be, and it's not healthy to keep forcing yourself like that."
"No, it is still the same as before. But I already knew that would be the case."
"I'm less of a being compared to other Abnormalities. They may be concepts, just as I am, but they are understood to have a form that is observable by humans. However, I'm the concept of secrets, of things people don't understand and don't want to know. Things that should never be known. Even at this point, I might not be the one having a conversation here."
"You may just be seeing what you think you are seeing, and hearing what you think you are hearing. After all, to understand me, the concept of secrets, is to understand the incomprehensible. Rather than my entire concept being overturned for this short while, is it not more likely that you are in fact just looking into a mirror of your mind, and listening to a reflection of your self?"
"I'll not stop you from leaving. But I do have an advice for you, as an Abnormality to another Abnormality. Don't try to be what you are not. You know exactly what you are, so it will not do you good to keep going on the path you are on."

Still kinda Binah-ish for the last few sentences, but I think I got a better understanding now on what [CENSORED] is now.

And [CENSORED] even hits X really hard on the imposter syndrome that X has been facing at the end there. Ouch.

I still kinda want to use Big Eyes on it now, FOR SCIENCE! But ya, really nice and unique representation of [CENSORED] from this scene. I expect the seedling to be something along the line of facing X's secrets and imposter's syndrome, but we will see. Maybe we can try using Big Eyes on the sapling at some point.
 
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Finally caught up!
And what's this? Both of our precious are getting all chummy! They even went and "beat" CENSORED.

Before you know it, they are already discussing plans on overthrowing the Head! How nice!
[X] You'll help when able
 
To bury the decline option even further.

Thinks about this from X's POV here. Outside of continuing on the family's business, Angela has given X so much assistance, from handling the kids to helping her out with her own Abnormality problems, it'd be really selfish to decline her sister's request when Angela has been so accepting of X's own requests so far.
 
"You shouldn't try so hard. To be somebody, I mean. There's only really one sort of person you know how to be, and it's not healthy to keep forcing yourself like that."
I wonder what, specifically, it is talking about. X is pretending to have relationships with people, when all she could ever do was be a manager to her employees? That doesn't seem quite right.
 
X is literally wearing a shell all the time. So maybe CENSORED is referring to that?

I can't believe [CENSORED] of all things is the most coherent Abnormality we've met so far.
 
I wonder what, specifically, it is talking about. X is pretending to have relationships with people, when all she could ever do was be a manager to her employees? That doesn't seem quite right.
I think it's about X pretending to be human when she is not. It's something that has been plaguing her for a while now ever since she had the realization that she's an Abnormality.
 
For While I Cannot Love Myself

I lOvE yOu?

Left unsaid is the fact that it would be deeply reassuring to find another Abnormality capable of proper human interaction.

See: out desperate talk with Nothing There in the hopes of a peaceful solution, it didn't work, but there seems to have been something that happened by the end.

There's always the Magical Girl Abnormalities if you're desperate, but they're eccentric at best and outright insane at worst.

Yeah, Queen is indeed a little eccentric and Knight really is quite insane. :V

If you didn't know better, you'd think it was pacing nervously.

I'd say it was pacing nervously. Maybe because it adopted some human mannerisms somewhere?

"Others… less pure- natural- more… together… Self- not… real- only… secrets…"

Ah, I see, there is nothing under the bars originally, CENSORED is the idea of *something we can't look at before becoming mad*, so it's shape is *whatever will do for that*, the bars we see in game are always the same because we see all of it from one point of view, but someone else would see something else.

And now we gave it an actual shape to occupy, even for a little while and it is grateful.

"Two rulers- one makes understanding, one stores information… enough to pull together. As long as you are here."

Ok, we are the one about understanding, Angela is the one storing information (her EGO is a library, after all), and having us both there allows for understanding and keeping the information that *forms* CENSORED*.

But establishing that connection requires an Abnormality to submit to the Library's authority in some way, which-" Angela's eyes widen slightly. "Apparently is not a problem. Censored is now correctly providing power to the Library.

It was listening and wanted what you could give, so of course it submitted as soon as you said it was what you needed.

I might not even be experiencing this moment of clarity here."

SITHIS IS NOT vibes there.

"I preferred when you could only speak in broken sentences. You made a lot more sense."

Funnily enough, I agree 100%, I could easily divine the meaning of the broken sentences, but as soon as he? began using full sentences, uncertainty came in. How funny.

"She needs to appreciate herself more. All the Sephirah do." you reply.

Pot, kettle, glad to make your acquaintance.

"And you as well." Angela adds. You look at her with mild confusion. "You also need to appreciate yourself more. We did most of the work in creating the Seed of Light. We deserve to feel proud of that accomplishment."

Angela agrees with my assessment.

[x] You'll help when able

Sorry, that was supposed to be a non rethorical question?


Glad to see you back!

I wonder what, specifically, it is talking about. X is pretending to have relationships with people, when all she could ever do was be a manager to her employees? That doesn't seem quite right.

It's talking about our gebura shell, it's telling us to be ourself instead of trying to be Kali.
 
It's talking about our gebura shell, it's telling us to be ourself instead of trying to be Kali.
Hmm, that is an alternate look at it. Is X forcing herself to hold Gebura's shell though? I didn't really get that impression so far.

Edit: Oh wait, the Gebura's shell is more about the representation of X's wish to be a hero. In which case what [CENSORED] said would fit. X has been trying really hard to be a hero for... everyone actually.
 
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Oh wait, the Gebura's shell is more about the representation of X wish to be a hero. In which case what [CENSORED] said would fit. X is trying really hard to be a hero for... everyone actually.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking it said, we are already a caring and helpful individual, we have no need to force ourself to act as Kali when we are already there on our own.

Though we did get a glimpse showing that we also forces our body in that shell and that *it's too small*, when we learned our true nature and searched for information about it. Update 1.4.7, Trumpet.
 
Of course. Theres also a none-zero chance of CENSORED channeling it's inner Carmen and straight up telling us to not use a Shell at all.
 
This feels like more binah and less hokma though. Binah usually gets to the heart of the topic, even though she speaks in ciphers. Hokma talks around the subject before getting to the point at times.
 
I feel like it's out of character to turn down her offer. Like, I can't see X doing that, not with everything she's done up to this point. At the same time, I as a player, don't want to go pick a fight with the Head when we haven't even had a proper dust up with the Incubators. It's annoying. I'd much rather have a solid lead on how to deal with them first, and then promise to take the Head's head.

If fact, write in!

[X] You'll help when able, and you'd like her help doing something about the Incubators and their system.
 
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