Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

And it's not Michael's doing, but Charity's.

Just following her example :p
It's really a shame she gave up magic, with her absurd willpower Charity was clearly the sort of "minor talent" that had the potential to knock over buildings.
Very well made clothes can be very understated.
Yeah but the quality difference will still be apparent even if they're not covered in gems.

Not the end of the world, but showing up to church looking like Bezos' tailor owes them a favor could be more trouble than it's worth. Not in terms of danger to us or something silly like that, just in terms of making trouble for Charity.
 
Oh certainly that. It would make a great father's day/birthday/Christmas present. Also it actually helps him instead of just overshadowing him.

Although we don't actually have the charm to make Exalted grade tools yet. Just beyond the peak of mortal.
For Charity I am thinking a war hammer and/or power armor. For our other siblings, I am not sure. Maybe a book of deep lore for Daniel?
When could they use them though? Legendary grade clothing is sort of noticeable, and they aren't exactly the sort of people who have access to that quality of tailor.
At the very least they could use them to go to church. as I understand it, you are supposed to wear your best formal attire there, and Charity seems to take socialization aspects of church seriously. Aside from that, Michael has to negotiate with his clients. Wearing a supreme suit would be to his advantage during those negotiations.
 
Yeah but the quality difference will still be apparent even if they're not covered in gems.

Not the end of the world, but showing up to church looking like Bezos' tailor owes them a favor could be more trouble than it's worth. Not in terms of danger to us or something silly like that, just in terms of making trouble for Charity.
Clothing is well made if it serves it's intended function. In this case that would be being comfortable, looks good and maybe provides protection. Well tailored clothes doesn't actually look different beside fitting perfectly.
 
For Charity I am thinking a war hammer and/or power armor. For our other siblings, I am not sure. Maybe a book of deep lore for Daniel?
We should really be more careful with the deep lore stuff. Daniel is a nice kid, but he isn't capable of using that sort of information safely.

Rather than deep lore it'd probably be more useful to try writing something to allow for rituals that leverage what little talent all humans have to cast things. Probably enchantment or alchemy since it'd let him do his prep before hand and apply the skills to other stuff.

We know that this sort of thing is possible from when Butters became a knight of the cross, though he'd never be as good as someone with actual talent at the same task.
At the very least they could use them to go to church. as I understand it, you are supposed to wear your best formal attire there, and Charity seems to take socialization aspects of church seriously. Aside from that, Michael has to negotiate with his clients. Wearing a supreme suit would be to his advantage during those negotiations.
I guess. I think Charity would have more issues with gossipy old church shrews than it's worth, but ultimately this isn't exactly a high stakes problem.
Clothing is well made if it serves it's intended function. In this case that would be being comfortable, looks good and maybe provides protection. Well tailored clothes doesn't actually look different beside fitting perfectly.
High quality tailored clothes are noticeable even so. Not everyone pays attention to that sort of thing, but that you're describing is one of those qualitative differences between business class formal wear and what the actually wealthy use.

I don't think it's dangerous or anything, but it is worth noting.
 
High quality tailored clothes are noticeable even so. Not everyone pays attention to that sort of thing, but that you're describing is one of those qualitative differences between business class formal wear and what the actually wealthy use.

I don't think it's dangerous or anything, but it is worth noting.
If asked they just say that their daughter Molly made it for them. Being known to be a super tailor is hardly a problem. I was about to say that being known as tech wizard could be a problem, but then I remembered that we can delegate that to our cyber devils.
 
We should really be more careful with the deep lore stuff. Daniel is a nice kid, but he isn't capable of using that sort of information safely.

Rather than deep lore it'd probably be more useful to try writing something to allow for rituals that leverage what little talent all humans have to cast things. Probably enchantment or alchemy since it'd let him do his prep before hand and apply the skills to other stuff.

We know that this sort of thing is possible from when Butters became a knight of the cross, though he'd never be as good as someone with actual talent at the same task.
We'll probably need to work more with Order of Cauldron, but yes a book / manual that aimes at maximizing one's small talent for magic (which apparently everyone is supposed to have in some way) could be a very useful project. Stuff like "spread it around SI" could have interesting long-reaching effects.

Probably lots of meditation and self-suggestion in there, as well as ritualistic stuff. Probably also alchemy, with potions of increased occult / alchemy ability. Bootstrapping algorithms.

It'll take a lot of work, but yeah, that's a good idea.
 
We'll probably need to work more with Order of Cauldron, but yes a book / manual that aimes at maximizing one's small talent for magic (which apparently everyone is supposed to have in some way) could be a very useful project. Stuff like "spread it around SI" could have interesting long-reaching effects.
A book detailing all monsters including their powers, weaknesses and how to identify them would likely be better.
 
[X] Seek to make yourself pleasant company, make smalltalk with the other guests
[X] Try to get one of the cops to participate, it's good practice for them
-[X] Empathy excellency
 
[X] Converse with the dead, maybe they have some insight about...
-[X] Mortimer Lindquist

[X] Converse with the dead, maybe they have some insight about...
-[X] The doings of the White Court


Not super interested in making a cop go out of their comfort zone and I'm pretty sure the general small talk option is locked in.
 
[X] Converse with the dead, maybe they have some insight about...
-[X] Mortimer Lindquist

[X] Converse with the dead, maybe they have some insight about...
-[X] The doings of the White Court
 
Here is an advantage Lydia has that we don't. Molly minuses ones on her soak rolls and I don't see anyway to avoid this no matter how high our soak gets. If Lydia buys Stamina as a divine attribute she doesn't.
 
Here is an advantage Lydia has that we don't. Molly minuses ones on her soak rolls and I don't see anyway to avoid this no matter how high our soak gets. If Lydia buys Stamina as a divine attribute she doesn't.
You don't buy Divine Attributes, any more than we can buy Key Abilities. They're chosen at chargen and then fixed forever. And Lydia doesn't have Stamina picked.

We could have had a chance to ignore 1s on Soak rolls, too, but that was a Crown option, and Crown of Eyes was judged as better.
 
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But we can buy key skills. That is one of the Infernal advantages over Solars. Costs 4 XP.
No, we can buy an Excellency for 4 XP. That allows us to spend a point of essence to double our dicepool in a given Ability for a few rounds. We still don't ignore 1s. The first purchase of the Infernal Excellency only affects Key Abilities, but all of them at once, where all other Abilities need to have Excellencies bought separately. That's why the difference between Key Abilities and Abilities that only have an Excellency hasn't come up.

But our Key Ability list is fixed forever, and our other abilities will never ignore 1s even if we buy an Excellency for them.
 
@DragonParadox : Given that we now have a good way to go about making money is it possible that we could buy some resource dots at a heavy discount so we don't have to keep track of it anymore?
 
So, we saw Daniel's reaction to Lydia. What do you guys think Charity thought about us and Lydia dressing like god queens of ancient past, and making it work?
 
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I don't know if you've answered that one before, but would the Banishment/Exorcism spell allow us to turn White Vamps human?

Unlike most vamps they are already very human and alive, just with a hunger-demon inside them, which is much closer to Formori than to WoD-vamps.

Also if that doesn't work because the union of human and hunger is too close to sever without killing them, would it work for White Court virgins then?
 
@DragonParadox
I don't know if you've answered that one before, but would the Banishment/Exorcism spell allow us to turn White Vamps human?

Unlike most vamps they are already very human and alive, just with a hunger-demon inside them, which is much closer to Formori than to WoD-vamps.

Also if that doesn't work because the union of human and hunger is too close to sever without killing them, would it work for White Court virgins then?

Yes Banishment would get rid of the Hunger, but you would need some way to heal the aggravated damage ripping it out would cause much like with a WoD fomor. A White Court Virgin on the other hand could be safely exorcised with no healing as their demon is not properly integrated into their body and soul yet.
 
Yes Banishment would get rid of the Hunger, but you would need some way to heal the aggravated damage ripping it out would cause much like with a WoD fomor. A White Court Virgin on the other hand could be safely exorcised with no healing as their demon is not properly integrated into their body and soul yet.
It only deals Lethal damage to former Formor.

10 dice, at a rate of 1 die per minute to be excact.
That's even survivable if you are a lucky human. You can't soak it, but dice aren't levels, luckily.
It would only take relativly minor healing, like an alchemy-made potion to be sure to survive that.
 
It only deals Lethal damage to former Formor.

10 dice, at a rate of 1 die per minute to be excact.
That's even survivable if you are a lucky human. You can't soak it, but dice aren't levels, luckily.
It would only take relativly minor healing, like an alchemy-made potion to be sure to survive that.

*checks*
You are right, I had remembered it as agg for some reason, probably mixed it up with the werewolf theurge power that does the same thing while causing agg, but that's the advantage of being an Exalted I guess, when you rip a demon out of someone you do it.... somewhat less painfully.
 
Does anyone with experience of WoD have any idea how you would render minor Dresden fey with this system, so far the best way I can think of is werewolf spirits because Changeling has things like the Realm mechanic what are more fitting to greater fey.
 
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