Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
COMMENTARY
-Von Triers tried a social power there
I cant find an analogue for precisely what she did. That suggests she has an Investiture, instead of rocking Psychic Numina.
Who its from is unknown.
- Hyde says "Society of..." He appears to referring to the Society of Leopold.
Society of Leopold
The Society of St. Leopold (just the Society of Leopold prior to 2005) is a faction within the Inquisition who exist to pursue and fight supernaturals. They are a major threat to every group of supernaturals because of their extensive knowledge, training, equipment, preparation and fanatical...
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So yeah, Church hitters are likely a thing
-We've spent 4 Essence this scene.
Cant spend more without flaring anima. Time to go.
Better social rolls for the Librarians.
Still not enough.
[X] No. you hardly know these people, exchange emails and leave
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Firstly how much a never-never power is able to do on earth is not a good guide to how powerful they are overall.
Secondly just a city? That seems rather low key as a example of power. Molly's charm list alone has a few ways to do that especially if was a signature effect. Seems weird to think the Yomi kings would be weaker then Molly will likely be at essence 5. Then again it expected that we should be able to overthrow one of them.
1)It very much is.
How much power you can wield far away from the heart of your domain is very strongly correlated with how powerful you are.
And Yama Kings in particular draw power from their Hells and how many tortured souls they are drawing power from.
See by contrast, Mab in Chicago in mid-summer facing off against the Titan Ethniu.
2)No, its pretty high level. Especially since it apparently happened by accident.
Molly can seal off part of a city as essentially a battle arena, she cant make an entire city vanish.
And she is an Exalt with cheat codes that are beyond anything available to most Yama Kings.
3)Mikaboshi, Yama King of the Wicked City, and one of the three or five most powerful named Yama Kings, used to be a mortal Japanese court official who decided to go head first into Infernalism, fled into Hell and built his own kingdom.
There's allegedly plenty of Yama Kings that are weaker.
So yeah. Killing YKs is well within Exalt capabilities at the high end.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
If two armies are fighting in a city and I kind of expect that city to be destroyed. The war in Ukraine makes that very clear.
It was the armies of Summer and Winter right? Not just the queens right?
Now I don't know if the Yomi kings can summon up an army of demons. Can they? Because if a few thousand demons are fighting in a city that city is likely toast.
The Yama King is 90% dependent on the continuous influx of souls to power them. Once Molly's hell goes online and I would expect set to take everybody not going to Heaven. The Yama King are going to be rapidly weakening and everybody that can is going to grabbing as much of their stuff as possible.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Is that how it works? Not sure the mechanics for how our hell works as an afterlife.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[X] No. you hardly know these people, exchange emails and leave
The Yama Kings fight all the time and don't cooperate at all as far as I can tell.
And the two Fey Courts power base is explicitly Western Europe. They have allies elsewhere but don't draw their power from their nor are they in charge:
Mikaboshi was once a mage. He's not anymore. Thousand Hells is explicit despite them having a variety of origins, the Yama Kings have evolved to be much more similar than they are different.
And Hanuman nuked Lanka, destroying what was the most powerful Hell and leaving it a post-apocalyptic wasteland of a city. That still didn't kill Ravena. What happened to Lanka is a sign of Raveena's strength, not weakness.
I doubt Mab would be able to facetank a nuke even in Arctic Tor.
Pretty sure it's not. The only way described of souls going into an infernal's Hell is when the infernal personally throws them in.
It doesn't seem to happen automatically. People go to the Hell that's appropriate punishment for their sins in life. If Molly doesn't make a Hell that's appropriate karmic punishment for a mortal sin, people certainly won't end up there, even if she can somehow plug it into the karmic system that assigns souls.
And the two Fey Courts power base is explicitly Western Europe. They have allies elsewhere but don't draw their power from their nor are they in charge:
Oh, no, they'll just rotate interests. Mab has more power in the southern winter, Titania in the southern summer. Though, as fundamentally northern-hemisphere, basically Western European beings, they don't have the kind of absolute reign there that they enjoy in other parts of the world, and their relationships there consist more of strong alliances and consensus influence among a much larger population of Wyld fae.
Mikaboshi was once a mage. He's not anymore. Thousand Hells is explicit despite them having a variety of origins, the Yama Kings have evolved to be much more similar than they are different.
And Hanuman nuked Lanka, destroying what was the most powerful Hell and leaving it a post-apocalyptic wasteland of a city. That still didn't kill Ravena. What happened to Lanka is a sign of Raveena's strength, not weakness.
I doubt Mab would be able to facetank a nuke even in Arctic Tor.
Pretty sure it's not. The only way described of souls going into an infernal's Hell is when the infernal personally throws them in.
It doesn't seem to happen automatically. People go to the Hell that's appropriate punishment for their sins in life. If Molly doesn't make a Hell that's appropriate karmic punishment for a mortal sin, people certainly won't end up there, even if she can somehow plug it into the karmic system that assigns souls.
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I disagree here. We are likely to have two questions. One should be spent on "the organization's true goals". That question does indicate the presence of inflitrators, because if the organization's bosses are subverted, the true goals of the organization would be different from the situation where there are no infiltrators. The second question should indeed be "the list of hostile organizations infiltrating the Library" or something like this.
COMMENTARY
-Von Triers tried a social power there
I cant find an analogue for precisely what she did. That suggests she has an Investiture, instead of rocking Psychic Numina.
Who its from is unknown.
- Hyde says "Society of..." He appears to referring to the Society of Leopold.
The Inquisition is a thing in WoD; also a thing in the Dresden Files. As is something called the Ordo Torca.Society of Leopold
The Society of St. Leopold (just the Society of Leopold prior to 2005) is a faction within the Inquisition who exist to pursue and fight supernaturals. They are a major threat to every group of supernaturals because of their extensive knowledge, training, equipment, preparation and fanatical...
So yeah, Church hitters are likely a thing
Molly suspects Hyde was about to say Society of Jesus.
- Location
- Germany
That's an interesting question.
We don't know how the metaphysics play here. Maybe the Yama Kings can bring demons into reality, but I suspect it's more likely that the demons would have to be summoned by mortal (or at least non-spirit) minions of the Yama Kings who already are in our world.
In WoD the Yama Kings are all very interested in turning people, mortal, Wan-Kuei or other, into their Akuma to have agents in the mortal world.
They wouldn't need that if they could just send hundreds of Shikome or Rakshasa after any problem that catches their eye.
And in Dresden Files people also generally look for a summoner when there's demons around, rather then assuming they just came of their own accord.
In WoD, thanks to the Gauntlet, spirits like the Yama Kings' devils can't manifest in the material world. It is possible to lower the Gauntlet, but that takes things like supernatural powers or the kind of Geomantic/social engineering Mikaboshi does to make parts of cities particularly hellish and a particularly inauspicious fashion and so resonate with the Wicked City so they overlap and his devils can walk the streets of the real world.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/They
little bit late but: holy fuck this is hilarious. And stupid. Particularly from someone who is a) a Catholic, b) daughter of a Knight of the Cross, c) friends with a Wizard of the White Council.
- Location
- Germany
She is first and foremost an American.
And those have kinda weird ideas about what is and isn't old.
Ah, sorry should have said 'American' as well to that.
Oh, well, Molly is rather ignorant. I mean, Harvard was founded in 1636. I guess she'll learn when selecting her college.
That's Academics 0 for you…
- Location
- Earth
Hey, we do have Academics 1.
Which is completely normal for an average student
