- Location
- washington
Politeness isn't seen as weakness with most fae sydonai just don't make it all polite.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Holy crap, someone actually made cat armor. What kind of crazy person would try to put a cat in armor...
Even if you succeed, then you have a pissed off cat wearing armor.
[X] Yog
Who cares about fae in general, this is a Predator that kills because it enjoys killing, and will keep killing long after being satiated purely for the "fun" of it.
- Location
- washington
Honestly this murder anything that is too morally reprehensible isn't going to work in this setting the nature of things means some of these species are literally near endless in numbers in actuality if not practically on earth itself. Also their still fae so what if their hunt happy that's manageable.
[x] Yog
We can't pull true names with questions. We get the name, but not the specific details enough to invoke it.
That's all about context and phrasing; polite isn't meek any more than good is kind.
If the commanding officer of an aircraft carrier answers the rude challenge of some piddling patrol boat with "Morning boys, how the weather looking today?" They aren't rolling over, they're gently reminding them they're in range.
The malks are murderous bastards on average, and being polite doesn't mean we have to indulge that. Either we come to an understanding that we're happy with or we kill any who fail to run away.
That's super aggressive and gives away more information than I'd like. Both in that we can get true names, and that we can't get enough context for them to actually matter. They don't matter enough to play that card, even assuming it doesn't backfire.
I'd also rather not do what's effectively paying tribute to these guys.
"Being polite."
"Acting as if they are so far beneath you that they don't even register as a threat."
These things are not the same.
You are at the edge of Jade Dog territory not in the station itself right now.
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- ImBuda
Yes but we have been working inside of It several hours at least, shouldnt our essence amount be at least one or two motes higher?
You are doing some pretty Essence intensive crafting, firing off 1 Essence worth of TTC and 1 of Excellency for each task. If you were in some more Essence poor environment you would have even less of it, or more reasonably Molly would not have been as free with it.
I mean, it's also a fae too. Not JUST a cat.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[X] Intimidate the malks into some kind of peace
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1)Do we not trigger Essence regen for discovering their motivations?
I would think that both their mistaking Molly for a servitor of Enma-O, and the fact that we got some insight into malk society behavior and motivations would qualify.
2)Is combat a viable test here?
Assume we're using Dark Sun only as both weapon and defense, and declined to activate Transcendent Anathema.
3)How would you stat a malk pack as a combat entity?
[] Plan Skin a Cat
-[] Use intimidation excellency, and TLF where applicable to protect the ghouls from attack.
-[] Stunt; As Molly takes a breath, so to does the tunnel seem to breathe with her; a cold breeze carrying the scent of distant fires threading through the gaps in brick and stone."Whatever else they are, the Jade dogs are mine Malk. You'd do well to remember that"
-[] As the shadows lean in towards her, Molly continues to speak. "Today you came to meet what might have been a dangerous enemy, and have already gained back the peace you thought lost. No foolish youth are you, to risk one prize for another unsought"
-[] " Rather than risking what we both seek, why shouldn't we both take more of the same? I have no real interest in what's yours, nor you in what I've claimed. Not all of our neighbors can honestly make that claim"
-[] " Each of us handling the trouble makers leaves us both better off"
I'd rather not deal with angry ninja cats, but giving them things that make them better killers and is functionally tribute is too much.
So something like this where we talk them into telling us about the neighborhood on the understanding that we won't stab each other but will probably both be stabbing other people neither of us like is a decent middle ground.
We promise nothing we weren't going to do anyway (in particular by not specifying how we'll handle anything) and don't have to deal with super cat hit squads.
This guy came here thinking he was all but betting his life on a coin flip, profit shouldn't be too high on his general priority list right
Stunt might still need some work though. Any feedback on that front?
I could have picked a better example, but the general point stands. Being consistently polite opens opportunities being rude closes off for no gain. Civility won't stop us from dismembering everyone this guy knows if he decides he wants to skip straight to the "find out" stage of this discussion.
-[] Use intimidation excellency, and TLF where applicable to protect the ghouls from attack.
-[] Stunt; As Molly takes a breath, so to does the tunnel seem to breathe with her; a cold breeze carrying the scent of distant fires threading through the gaps in brick and stone."Whatever else they are, the Jade dogs are mine Malk. You'd do well to remember that"
-[] As the shadows lean in towards her, Molly continues to speak. "Today you came to meet what might have been a dangerous enemy, and have already gained back the peace you thought lost. No foolish youth are you, to risk one prize for another unsought"
-[] " Rather than risking what we both seek, why shouldn't we both take more of the same? I have no real interest in what's yours, nor you in what I've claimed. Not all of our neighbors can honestly make that claim"
-[] " Each of us handling the trouble makers leaves us both better off"
I'd rather not deal with angry ninja cats, but giving them things that make them better killers and is functionally tribute is too much.
So something like this where we talk them into telling us about the neighborhood on the understanding that we won't stab each other but will probably both be stabbing other people neither of us like is a decent middle ground.
We promise nothing we weren't going to do anyway (in particular by not specifying how we'll handle anything) and don't have to deal with super cat hit squads.
This guy came here thinking he was all but betting his life on a coin flip, profit shouldn't be too high on his general priority list right
Stunt might still need some work though. Any feedback on that front?
There's varying levels of being a dick about it, and being rude almost never actually gets you anything but petty satisfaction.
I could have picked a better example, but the general point stands. Being consistently polite opens opportunities being rude closes off for no gain. Civility won't stop us from dismembering everyone this guy knows if he decides he wants to skip straight to the "find out" stage of this discussion.
[X] Intimidate the malks into some kind of peace
-[X] "I can offer you blood Malk, but I cannot promise it will be mine, and I am not one to run and hide. Hunt me and I will show you my blade." Molly flexes her knuckles as if to caress the hilt of her blade. "Hunt one one of mine," Molly meets the Malk dead in it's eyes "and I WILL know, and it will be the last thing you see."
-[X] "I can offer you blood Malk, but I cannot promise it will be mine, and I am not one to run and hide. Hunt me and I will show you my blade." Molly flexes her knuckles as if to caress the hilt of her blade. "Hunt one one of mine," Molly meets the Malk dead in it's eyes "and I WILL know, and it will be the last thing you see."
- No, the motivation of this malk in this instance is not enough
- You might be able to persuade them, though they are more into hunting than straight fights, a violent game of hide and seek would be more fun
- The same way I did the mutants in lake Erie, give them normal armor, normal stamina and skills for one malk then but their HP, dodge and attacks together with them losing attack/dodge dice as they lose HP. Since only so many of them can be in contact with one enemy at one time they have a limit for how many dice they can throw at one person
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- She/Her
Yeah, I like this one. Good to remember that these guys got lucky here. Not everyone who tries to intimidate an Infernal gets off with a simple non-aggression pact, instead of their head taken from their shoulders, or worse.
Let's remind them of the wisdom of quitting while they're ahead.
^^^
When North Korea or the Iranian Revolutionary Guard makes threats, the United States does not customarily respond by making counter threats of nuclear annihilation. Because thats both crazy and makes you look unhinged.
You just get a carrier group hanging out in your neck of the woods for a while.
There are benefits to subtlety, and to speaking softly while carrying a big stick.
I think it might still be a bit too wordy relative to how it sets the scene, but I'm going to go ahead and vote for version one of it at least.
[X] Plan Skin a Cat
-[X] Use intimidation excellency, and TLF where applicable to protect the ghouls from attack.
-[X] Stunt: As Molly takes a breath, so to does the tunnel seem to breathe with her; a cold breeze carrying the scent of distant fires threading through the gaps in brick and stone."Whatever else they are, the Jade dogs are mine Malk. You'd do well to remember that"
-[X] As the shadows lean in towards her, Molly continues to speak. "Today you came to meet what might have been a dangerous enemy, and have already gained back the peace you thought lost. No foolish youth are you, to risk one prize for another unsought"
-[X] " Rather than risking what we both seek, why shouldn't we both take more of the same? I have no real interest in what's yours, nor you in what I've claimed. Not all of our neighbors can honestly make that claim"
-[X] " Each of us handling the trouble makers leaves us both better off"
The other benefit here is that if they bite we get free information. Which would probably be a harder sell, but if TLF applies to resolving threats this way then we'll be rocking -5 difficulty on the check. I like our odds.
Hmm.
Hide and seek wont work for us; while both TLF and BSM will activate here in urban blight, Molly still only has a Perception 2 + Streetwise/Survival 0 dice pool. Insufficient for hide and seek in a strange area.
Im looking for an excuse to kick some respect into this pack without resorting to making overt threats.
Because I expect word will get around Winter at a minimum, and how we resolve this is just as important as doing it at all.
The Fae may respect strength, but they respect subtlety even more so.