Would you Distort or manifest EGO?


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I insist that we should only tell Mami about the Witches when we have made real progress in our project to turn the Witches back into Magical Girls.
That it's even possible is a dangerous assumption, and should not be a predicting factor in the decision, more so since it justifies putting it off longer and longer. The situation in Mitakihara is getting more and more dangerous. If another MG gets in and is caused to Witch where mami can witness it, hiding it was for nothing. If the thing Kyoko is hiding from Mami is the witch stuff, that hiding that information was worse. If Mami develops her own suspicions and asks Kuybey, he'll tell her, and he might also reveal we asked him about it and chose not to tell her. These are not unlikely possibilities.
True, but is now a good time? (Or perhaps, the least bad time we can think of in the near future?)
Yes, because things are going to get worse. There's going to be more Witches, more Abnormalities, and more Distortion type things. Time isn't going to make this better, time is an enemy. Telling her now is as good as its going to get.
 
[x] Plan: Storm Warning
-[x] Make Food
-[x] Pre-discuss conversation topics
--[x] With Mami and Yuma
---[x] Tell them that you are not from this Earth
---[x] Tell Yuma that you are an Abnormality and what that means
---[x] Workshop with them what to tell and how to tell it to the other kids later
 
[X] Pre-discuss conversation topics
-[X] With Mami
-[X] Talk about Homura.
-[X] She probably got the wrong impression of Homura. She's really a good person at heart.
-[X] You can see emotions with your abilities.
-[X] You know why she acts the way she does, but that's not your story to tell.
Doesn't Mami already do this?
Like, after the turns where we went witch hunting with the whole group (Minus Kyoko) and fought that "mind control" witch parasite thingy ma bob.

Mami realized that Homura ain't that bad during that hunt. Anyway.

[x] Plan: Storm Warning
-[x] Make Food
-[x] Pre-discuss conversation topics
--[x] With Mami and Yuma
---[x] Tell them that you are not from this Earth
---[x] Tell Yuma that you are an Abnormality and what that means
----[x] Workshop with them what to tell and how to tell it to the other kids later
It's good to have someone in the known with us before hand for this discussion. I wanted to test, but it appears that things are going out of the way real quick.
E: If we wanted to take further advantage of Cogito Ephemera, how would we go around doing that?
The chapter appeared to have answered that question somewhat.

Though given how this is calm...we need to test our abilities more. As you said, we don't know WHAT Last Helix can do nor its limits, we only managed to pull it out in a fit of frustration.

Can we do that for other Ordeals? The Violet Ordeals would fit nicely with Blue Star for example.

Ugh. We are on a timer now. With 4 Saplings still in their unsynchronized state. We really should get around to getting them fulfilled.

The first thing first is KoD's teleport. That one is absurdly useful and I wonder how the hell no one mentioned testing whether we have that or not.

The second thing is, we should get Der Fruity's sapling checked out asap. In terms of firepower, Der Fruity is the "easiest" for us right now to obtain while also hitting really goddamn hard with pinpoint accuracy. Just have to be wary of friendly fire. (Literally in the case of dark flame).

It's been only 1 WEEK! GODDAMN IT! 1 WEEKKKKK!!! We need to prepare MORE! I am having PTSD flashback to grinding my ass off so I can fight the Midnights with 0 DEATHs!!
 
[x] Plan: Storm Warning
-[x] Make Food
-[x] Pre-discuss conversation topics
--[x] With Mami and Yuma
---[x] Tell them that you are not from this Earth
---[x] Tell Yuma that you are an Abnormality and what that means
----[x] Workshop with them what to tell and how to tell it to the other kids later
 
We don't know. Maybe? Maybe not? Der Fruity synchronization show us that the bullets aren't too impossible for our allies to deal with so maybe its not that bad?

And thats the big problem. Even with the E.G.O we have we still don't know much!

Last Helix, KoD's teleport, Blue Star's gravity, Special X's limits in her current form, Cogito ephemera.

Like, it wasnt even in our mind that we could use Cogito Ephemera to heal ourselves, X did that all on her own!

We spent so much of our time researching and now I realize that it wasnt enough!

We have to test, we have to try to get them synchronized more. Big Bird beat the living day light LITERALLY out of us.

And he wasnt even trying at first! Without Homura we wouldve lost!

And thats just a WAW. Whatever the oncoming storm is, we need to be way stronger than what we are.

Our girls need to be strong too. So many things to do! So many powers to gain! But so little time and opportunities.

We are utterly absolutely powerless if an opponent like Queen Bee, Parasite Tree, Little Prince or any other infection type abnormality starts to get their ball rolling. We might even lose to some of the stronger WAW abnos too, Queen of Hatred, Black Swan, Dreaming Current, we can't assume that they will all be benign and help us.

And thats not even taking into account the Alephs. How the hell are we suppose to stop something like MoSB if we fail to catch it before it eats like 10 bodies?

We aren't the Strongest. We NEED to be the strongest.

We managed to pull out the Ordeals from within ourselves.

Can we do the same for the Meltdowns?
 
That it's even possible is a dangerous assumption, and should not be a predicting factor in the decision, more so since it justifies putting it off longer and longer.

It being possible is not an assumption, there are at least three cases of it in canon, Isabeau and Lapin in tart, as well as the third member of the magus wings in the gatcha game from what I gathered.*

*edit: actually, we also have the case of Kazumi magica, with the pleiades actually being successful on dewitching, they did it severally times, the only problem they had was making it stick, and we have exactly the solution for that part since is was a mental problem.

Yes, because things are going to get worse. There's going to be more Witches, more Abnormalities, and more Distortion type things. Time isn't going to make this better, time is an enemy. Telling her now is as good as its going to get.

We have no proof that this is the case, the chapter may be named the calm before, but the storm it implies can very well be our planned reunion, who promise to get at least a little chaotic due to all the participants.

It's been only 1 WEEK! GODDAMN IT! 1 WEEKKKKK!!! We need to prepare MORE!

On the contrary, it's barely been one week, this is not a long time and we are already progressing fast.

We are on our way to resolve some of Homura's recurring problems about Mami and Kyouko, have worked on Sayaka social and making her accept Homura, the coming reunion will allows us to begin working on bringing the parents in as a support network for the girls, we have considerably buoyed Mami's self confidence by adopting her.

Do not think that working on our combat ability is the most important thing, is is secondary, at best, what we need is social, not more guns.

And thats just a WAW.

Big bird is both the tankiest Waw and one of the hardest hitting, he is a very bad benchmark, also, the hostages are the main reason we had problems, we were constantly distracted by the fact we had to keep them alive, a one on one fight would probably have gone differently.


We are utterly absolutely powerless if an opponent like Queen Bee, Parasite Tree, Little Prince or any other infection type abnormality starts to get their ball rolling. We might even lose to some of the stronger WAW abnos too, Queen of Hatred, Black Swan, Dreaming Current, we can't assume that they will all be benign and help us.

This is false, actually, it is beginning to feel as if you are fearmongering right now, we already are quite strong, bigger guns are not something that is so pressing we should stop working on the far more important part that is social.

Do remember that the quest was intended to be winnable with us having chosen to be Carmen, so not that good at fighting.

Also, this is a narrative quest, if Lepi wants us to struggle, then it doesn't matter what we did, we will struggle, if lepi wants us to win via the power of friendship, then no amount of solo training will ever help us. The thing I want out of our science session is more knowledge, the fact it can makes us slightly more powerful is just a slight bonus, it is about knowing ourself for me, and I don't want all of them to be made unfun by powergaming nonsense.
 
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Oh, yeah. It's 100% just fearmongering and me having some fun panicking.

Unless Nothing There, the Adult, and multiple abnormalities decided to shit the bed and cause a shitton of chaos at once, we are in a pretty decent position.

With 2 of the 3 birds contained, A Bird is a very distant thing for all intent and purposes. And Whitenight...has shown essentially no sign of his influence, though Kyoko's cross is a bit worrying due to OneBro.

And since we have yet to see any sign of the MGs' presence, we won't need to worry about them either.

All things considered, it's not a big urgency we need to follow. If it was I would've pushed for a research/experiment vote over the Storm Warning plan.
We have no proof that this is the case, the chapter may be named the calm before, but the storm it implies can very well be our planned reunion, who promise to get at least a little chaotic due to all the participants.
Even if what Unmaker said became true, telling Mami that right now is still a bad idea. This isn't something you just drop on someone like that.

I mean. We can just Command her to not do something stupid when we eventually talk to her about it.

But that's bad mom behavior, and is also just a temporary solution. Eternal already made some good points about preparations before we tackle the witchbomb.
 
Oh, yeah. It's 100% just fearmongering and me having some fun panicking.

In that case, can I interest you in using this little emoji: :V?

It is incredibly difficult to read tone in writing format and I can guarantee that there are people who would not only take your post seriously, but also decide to take that as a reason to *optimize the fun out of the quest*

Even if what Unmaker said became true, telling Mami that right now is still a bad idea. This isn't something you just drop on someone like that.

Hence me also telling we didn't do any prepwork.
 
But using emojis is too much~! :p

Though in all seriousness. Why did the whole witchbomb get brought up again? We are already dropping the A(bnormality) Bomb on the girls today.

Dropping the W(itch) Bomb too is just a bit overkill ain't it?
 
[x] Plan: Storm Warning
-[x] Make Food
-[x] Pre-discuss conversation topics
--[x] With Mami and Yuma
---[x] Tell them that you are not from this Earth
---[x] Tell Yuma that you are an Abnormality and what that means
----[x] Workshop with them what to tell and how to tell it to the other


Sounds alright.

But using emojis is too much~! :p

Though in all seriousness. Why did the whole witchbomb get brought up again? We are already dropping the A(bnormality) Bomb on the girls today.

Dropping the W(itch) Bomb too is just a bit overkill ain't it?

Maybe add a warning that we want to tell them about something that could be quite... nerve racking for magical girls and we don't think they are ready yet? Well later of course
 
[x] Plan: Storm Warning
-[x] Make Food
-[x] Pre-discuss conversation topics
--[x] With Mami and Yuma
---[x] Tell them that you are not from this Earth
---[x] Tell Yuma that you are an Abnormality and what that means
----[x] Workshop with them what to tell and how to tell it to the other kids later
 
[x] Plan: Storm Warning
-[x] Make Food
-[x] Pre-discuss conversation topics
--[x] With Mami and Yuma
---[x] Tell them that you are not from this Earth
---[x] Tell Yuma that you are an Abnormality and what that means
----[x] Workshop with them what to tell and how to tell it to the other kids later

now this is logical, evil overlord checklist admittedly but sometimes evil can be good to quote macbeth

and putting this conversation off will only let the issue fester and the result worse, like using a cook is stale cake mix


Ps seriously guys, fall asleep and I miss everyone acting like clerks during 3rd trumpet
 
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My point still stands
Calm down first, contemplate THEN panic
Panic doesn't help too much
The stirm has yet hit, we can make preparatiobs for it and if need be
WE WILL SPLIT IT IN TWAIN
Afterall did we not choose Gebura, Kali the red mist, as our Template
We need only hold a cinder of her example to be stalwart
No Matter what happens
We will face the fear
We will build our future
We will secure all we hold dear
We will contain the oncoming disaster
We will PROTECT
WE WILL REMAIN UNBROKEN
 
... I think you're onto something
We have knowledge and power
Maybe we need to lean less on our mind and Pacification, and more on our true power and our templates strength, we need to learn to fight
And bayonetta and dante seem like good examples to follow, we're already able to gather weapons, we need only figure out how to replicate homuras pseudo ego to get time slowing to mimic witch time and figure out how to unleash our inner self's power safely to mimic devil trigger
Jubileus flairina from flairina's bayonetta fic could count too, figure out how we operate and streamline it
 
[x] Plan: Storm Warning
-[x] Make Food
-[x] Pre-discuss conversation topics
--[x] With Mami and Yuma
---[x] Tell them that you are not from this Earth
---[x] Tell Yuma that you are an Abnormality and what that means
---[x] Workshop with them what to tell and how to tell it to the other kids later
 
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