Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Something to help with our upcoming plans to take over Undertown
I think this is better left until we finish the Dragon's Nest. It becomes relevant then, when we have a seat of power to expand from. Then we could and should buy Mercy in Servitude and Transcendent Lord of Flies, which, with Demonic Primacy of Essence, would let us recruit everyone in the Underground (because Transcendent Lord of Flies works on making others follow you as long as your intent is to protect them from the environment of urban desolation they live in).
 
I think this is better left until we finish the Dragon's Nest. It becomes relevant then, when we have a seat of power to expand from. Then we could and should buy Mercy in Servitude and Transcendent Lord of Flies, which, with Demonic Primacy of Essence, would let us recruit everyone in the Underground (because Transcendent Lord of Flies works on making others follow you as long as your intent is to protect them from the environment of urban desolation they live in).
You need to account for social combat while we're doing the renovation though?
NPCs have agency.
They will probe, they will approach, they might attack.

We arent going to be doing renovation work for two months plus without having multiple random encounters.
How the majority of them go depends on how good we are at sweet talk.
 
You need to account for social combat while we're doing the renovation though?
NPCs have agency.
They will probe, they will approach, they might attack.

We arent going to be doing renovation work for two months plus without having multiple random encounters.
How the majority of them go depends on how good we are at sweet talk.
That's true. Which is why I am buying Demonic Primacy of Essence, Etiquette 3 and Boiling Sea Mastery. I am planning to make the "Trigger CCC at will" wearable anklet too. What I am not buying now are Mercy In Servitude, which is for those who already our minions, and Transcendent Lord of Flies, which is for recruiting people to follow us in places of desolation (hmm... I wonder - does Harry's mental scape count as a place of desolation for the purpose of helping Harry against Lash, or helping Lash? Or is he too sane? Or does mental landscape not count?). I feel that at -3 to -6 difficulty and with excellencies, we should be able to deal with NPC encounters.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by uju32 on Oct 19, 2022 at 3:58 PM, finished with 46 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Kick a Fallen Angel
    -[X] Ox-Body Technique: 3XP
    -[X] Scar-Writ Saga Shield: 3XP
    -[X] Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
    -[X] Rage Recast Flight: 6XP
    -[X] Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism: 10XP
    -[X] Etiquette 3: 2XP
    [X] All things made Easy
    [X] Plan Infernal Supremacy
    -[X] Rage Recast Flight: 6XP
    -[X]1x Ox Body: 3XP
    -[X] Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
    -[X]Allies/Followers 2(Cyberdevils): 6XP
    -[X] Demonic Primacy of Essence, 4 XP
    -[X]Naked Wicked Souls: 3XP
    -[X] Etiquette 3: 2XP
    [X] Plan Primate Murder
    -[X] Rage Recast Flight: 6XP
    -[X]1x Ox Body: 3XP
    -[X] Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
    -[X]Allies/Followers 2(Cyberdevils): 6XP
    -[X] Demonic Primacy of Essence, 4 XP
    -[X] Scar-Writ Saga Shield: 3XP
    -[X] Etiquette 3: 2XP
    [X] All things made Easy
    -[X] Boiling Sea Mastery, 4 XP
    -[X] Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
    -[X] Ox-Body Technique: 3XP
    -[X] Scar-Writ Saga Shield: 3XP
    -[X] By Rage Recast: Flight, 6 XP
    -[X] Demonic Primacy of Essence, 4 XP
    -[X] Etiquette up to three dots, 2 XP
    -[X] Technology up to two dots, 2 XP
    [X] It's a bird, it's a plane...No, it's Sailor Nuclear Hell Princess!
    -[X] Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
    -[X] Ox-Body Technique: 3XP
    -[X] Scar-Writ Saga Shield: 3XP
    -[X] By Rage Recast: Flight, 6 XP
    -[X] Demonic Primacy of Essence, 4 XP
    -[X] Windborn Stride, 8 XP
    [X] Plan Subaquatic Supremacy
    -[X] Rage Recast Flight: 6XP
    -[X]1x Ox Body: 3XP
    -[X] Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
    -[X]Allies/Followers 2(Cyberdevils): 6XP
    -[X] Boiling Sea Mastery, 4 XP
    -[X]Naked Wicked Souls: 3XP
    -[X] Etiquette 3: 2XP
 
I think this is better left until we finish the Dragon's Nest. It becomes relevant then, when we have a seat of power to expand from. Then we could and should buy Mercy in Servitude and Transcendent Lord of Flies, which, with Demonic Primacy of Essence, would let us recruit everyone in the Underground (because Transcendent Lord of Flies works on making others follow you as long as your intent is to protect them from the environment of urban desolation they live in).
I count both stuff to improve our ability to fix the Dragon's Nest and stuff like Demonic Primacy of Essence in that category. It's a pretty broad category, and I just want something that counts.
 
[X] It's a bird, it's a plane...No, it's Sailor Nuclear Hell Princess!

Initiative is hugely important in combat, even if you're not a dodge tank.


[X] Plan Infernal Supremacy
[X] Plan Primate Murder
 
I don't expect this to come even close to winning but I want to set out the stall for magic so the planmakers realise there are people willing to vote for it.

[X] Plan Witchblade means Witchblade
-[X] Ancient Sorcery Spell: Calling the Calibration Gate 10xp
-[X] Ancient Sorcery Spell: Mists of Eventide 10xp
-[X] Ancient Sorcery Spell: Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism 10xp

Access to the Nevernever, Hell and every other plane we might want to go to, an excellent non-lethal takedown option and the ability to BTFO the Fallen. All for the low price of 30xp
 
Here's some plans I've been tinkering with and can post now. Also @FriedIce we're limited to one ancient sorcery spell without tutoring per story.


[]Ninja Carpenter Zombie Robot- A Build focused on navigating undertown and other places through sneaking around. It improves our potential in fulfilling our obligation to Porter and lays framework for taking Sun Denying Spite to teleport anywhere within our range. Of course, Bloodless Murk Evasion is also a Perfect Defense. Round out the setup with the Cyberdevil based information network. Additionally, A stealth excellency may help us give off less of a minature Darkhollow feeling.

Spending: Stealth 3(9 XP), Allies(Cyberdevils) 2(6 XP), Bloodless Murk Evasion(9 XP), Technology 2(2 XP), Stealth Excellency(4 XP)

[]Ninja Carpenter Zombie Robot(Etiquette Variant) - A Stealth build focused on Anonymity through Propriety instead of conventional Stealth.

Etiquette 4(5 XP), Allies(Cyberdevils) 2(6 XP), Technology 2(2 XP), Anonymity through Propriety(8 XP), Bloodless Murk Evasion(9 XP)

[]You are Queen- A Build focused on social firepower for interactions with Mab and others, that seeks to resolve the hazards of Undertown by making them into our minions, and gives us the ability to spend plenty of time down there with Transcendent Lord of Flies. Naked Wicked Souls/Etiquette 3 is a reasonable substitution here.

Spending: Mercy in Servitude(4 XP), Demonic Primacy of Essence(4 XP), Transencent Lord of Flies(4 XP), Allies(Cyberdevils) 2 (6 XP), Etiquette 4(5 XP), Scar-Writ Saga Shield(3 XP), Boiling Sea Mastery(4 XP)

[]Executor - A Combat focused build mixed with the Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism. Potential exists to substitute the Sapphire Ritual with Calling the Calibration Gate or Flight of Separation AKA something with more immediate utility as opposed to social utility/making the offer of exorcism to Harry.

Spending: Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism(10 XP), Virdian Legend Exoskeleton(6 XP), Raw-Edged Paranoia Principle(8 XP), Scar Writ Saga Shield(3 XP), Athletics 2(2 XP)

[]Helltaker - You want King and the Kingdom(The Hell Creation Charm) as fast as possible.

Spending: Essence 3(16 XP), Allies(Cyberdevils) 2 (6 XP), Wind-Born Stride(8 XP)
 
I know. Make Mab meet us underwater! Ideally in the arctic Circle.

[X] All things made Easy

More tech and demonic primacy makes our ability to craft and make use of cyber devils grow better... a lot.
 
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I don't expect this to come even close to winning but I want to set out the stall for magic so the planmakers realise there are people willing to vote for it.
My plan does include the exorcism sorcery.

We are only allowed one sorcery per story/XP spending.
The plan you're voting for doesnt actually vote for cyberdevils.
S/he probably means the tech dot makes summoning them permanently easier.
 
[X] Plan Empress' Groove
-[X] +1 Essence Gives two more motes to cap; May spent 3 Essence in one round 16 XP
-[X] Kakuri Charm: False Springs Beckckon (•••) Allows you to suspect the torments of those who serve you, including the derangement caused the use of by Black Magic 9 XP
-[X] The Hell of Burrowing Maggots Charm: Demonic Primacy of Essence (•): Lesser Creatures of Darkness recognize your dread majesty making it easier to sway them. All social rolls with such beings reduced by 2. 4 XP

[X] Helltaker
 
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Just out of curiosity @DragonParadox , would this charm have any interesting interactions with the outer gates?

violenCe is Worship (•••)
Every drop of blood spilled in rage or hatred is a
tiny prayer uttered to the Infernal, and she draws nour- ishment from such gifts.
System: The first time in the scene that the Infer- nal witnesses an act of violence – a serious one, one where someone gets hurt, bleeds, weeps – she regains 1 Essence on the spot. The Infernal cannot be the one to have instigated the violence, either by her own hand or through the direct actions of those following her orders. It must be a gift offered up to her by the world.
Signature Effect: If the Infernal stands in an abat- toir – a place of blood and slaughter, such as the after- math of a gangland shoot-out, or a serial killer's gory kill room – she may assume her Shintai form automat- ically, without the need of an Essence or Willpower expenditure or a dice roll. However, this landscape of murder must be a gift of the universe to the Infernal: she cannot by her own hand or by her orders to allies or underlings have directly caused the deaths and vio- lence to have occurred.

The battlefield at the gates being one continuous fight since the dawn of the age (or whenever the outsiders showed up) sounds like a significant place for something fueled by violence.
 
I've been informed that my plan is illegal, so instead I'm going to single issue vote for any plan with magic in it.

[X] Plan: Kick a Fallen Angel
 
[X] All things made Easy
[X]Ninja Carpenter Zombie Robot(Etiquette Variant)
[X] Plan Primate Murder

Exorcism is useless without friends (meaning: Exalted friends) to pin somebody in place for an hour without killing them. There's potential regarding Lash shenanigans, but I suspect it's too soon outright and I'm darn sure and certain it's not more time-critical than "not starring in Mab's next instant loss doujin", "not getting claim-jumped on the dragon's nest", and/or "not dying".
 
[X] All things made Easy
[X]Ninja Carpenter Zombie Robot(Etiquette Variant)
[X] Plan Primate Murder

Exorcism is useless without friends (meaning: Exalted friends) to pin somebody in place for an hour without killing them. There's potential regarding Lash shenanigans, but I suspect it's too soon outright and I'm darn sure and certain it's not more time-critical than "not starring in Mab's next instant loss doujin", "not getting claim-jumped on the dragon's nest", and/or "not dying".
Technically we could try taking the coin physically and then breaking the connection they can use to eventually summon it back with exorcism, but that's barely any easier to arrange than holding them down in the first place.
 
We DO have the ability to make cyberdevils still. What does buying them as allies get us? And have you asked DP about it?
It allows them to hack systems that they arent inside, and computers/cellphones/camera networks we cant reach with HMP.
And yes, Word of QM is that we need to buy 2 dots/6XP to enable it at a minimum.
More dots is better, but 2 dots is minimum.

If you want to keep track of the Daedalus people and their plans, you need this.
If you want to check a person's criminal record, you need this.
If you want to vanish someone's computer records, you need this.

Lots of applications for the ability to hack computer systems in modern society.
 
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