Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

*looks at loot*
Nothing here interesting enough to be worth squabbling over, or to overcome Molly's instinctive ew at the property of a dead woman. Especially not the jacket.

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QUESTION
1)Can we still ask the Mab question? Or would you prefer that we dont?
2)INT+ Occult check: Does Molly think snapping a picture would have any potential effect on Clippy?
  1. You can ask, aiming at the room, but you will only get as much resolution as Mister gave you
  2. It should be fine as far as she understands it
 
*looks at loot*
Nothing here interesting enough to be worth squabbling over, or to overcome Molly's instinctive ew at the property of a dead woman. Especially not the jacket.
Molly needs to learn proper looting etiquette sooner rather than later.

We killed her, so we loot her. 🧐

High quality enchanted gear isn't so common that we can turn our nose up when we stumble across the stuff. For all the magic in the setting, there are actually very few enchanted items in DF canon. The vast majority of what is seen are foci and other tools that require magic input from their wielder.
 
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Nothing here interesting enough to be worth squabbling over, or to overcome Molly's instinctive ew at the property of a dead woman. Especially not the jacket.
We can get a very good Soak-roll in a few Charms.
Being able to correct a bad roll on that can be life-saving.


[X] Try to claim one of them, they might be useful or at least interesting
-[X] The jacket


Meanwhile the call to a Neverborn should be erased and forgotten.
I'd rather call a conference of Yama-Kings and tell them all we'll be after their thrones in a year.
I mean, propably they are gone for good, but you can't ever be totally sure...

[X] Leave be and continue with what clean up you can
 
VOTE
[X] Snap a picture of the circle before Harry melts it
[X] Leave them for the others
[X] Write-in: Crown of Eyes to ask what Mab knows about our Exaltation. Focus is museum door she passed through.



RATIONALE
We dont need the sword when our summoned blade can already deal Agg.
We dont need the jacket either, not as badly as other people here might, like Lydia; we're adding an Ox-Body and VLE during this XP spending session. And honestly, I dont wanna wear a dead woman's effects for so little benefit, when we can make our own shit.

And we have enough Essence to use Crown of Eyes, which will give us back Essence because secret.
And might give us XP.
 
We dont need the jacket either, not as badly as other people here might, like Lydia; we're adding an Ox-Body and VLE during this XP spending session. And honestly, I dont wanna wear a dead woman's effects for so little benefit, when we can make our own shit.
I would agree if the jacket added dice like armor does, then someone like Lydia would be much better off with it.

But it allows a reroll, which gets only more valuable the higher our inherent soak rises.
 
Molly needs to learn proper looting etiquette sooner rather than later.
We killed her, so we loot her. 🧐

High quality enchanted gear isn't so common that we can turn our nose up when we stumble across the stuff. For all the magic in the setting, there are actually very few enchanted items in DF canon. The vast majority of what is seen are foci and other tools that require magic input from their wielder.
It isnt so valuable that we should grab it if we see it either
And it isnt that valuable to Molly, who is tankier than the norm, and getting tankier.
Let it go to Lydia instead; its either her or Gard, and Gard has better stuff because she can make stuff or buy from the svartalfar.

We can get a very good Soak-roll in a few Charms.
Being able to correct a bad roll on that can be life-saving.
See above.
This is not an item we can wear 24/7, like Ebon Scales, which fits under normal clothes; its something we'd only be able to wear when going into active peril. And in that event we're already going to be rolling around in around 8-10 Soak after VLE.

I'll pass.
 
If we want to go for max tanky, plans should include
Lanka:
Ox-Body Technique • (3XP)
Ox-Body Technique • (3XP)
Scar-Writ Saga Shield • (3XP)
Viridian Legend Exoskeleton •• (6XP)

Sub-Total: 15XP
Yes, that's Ox-Body twice. We can buy it once per Essence Rating.

Which leaves 15XP for other things.

Options:
Murder Is Meat • (4XP): Spirit killer, essence regeneration when killing spirits

Teacup-Ninja pack:
Boiling Sea Mastery • (4XP): no more water problems, difficulty reduced by one when wet
Rendered Villain Dispersal • (4XP): can hide in a tea cup or any other liquid

Recruitment Pack:
Demonic Primacy of Essence • (4XP): reduce social DC against all lesser creatures of darkness by two
Alas, Mab is not lesser.
Mercy in Servitude • (4XP): suspend suffering of those who serve us, e.g. White Court vampires

Etiquette 2->4 (5XP): To do better against Mab next time, also useful against other high-level socials. E.g. Odin.

Ancient Sorcery:
Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism (10XP): Throw a Denarian out of their host. Also throw Nemesis out of Maeve and Lea.
 
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See above.
This is not an item we can wear 24/7, like Ebon Scales, which fits under normal clothes; its something we'd only be able to wear when going into active peril. And in that event we're already going to be rolling around in around 8-10 Soak after VLE.

I'll pass.
It's a cool leather jacket with runed studs.
And we are barely affected by heat.

Of course we can wear it everywhere, including school or church.
 
I would agree if the jacket added dice like armor does, then someone like Lydia would be much better off with it.
But it allows a reroll, which gets only more valuable the higher our inherent soak rises.
We (will) have a magic crafting charm that allows makes magic stuff.
The svartalfar literally have an embassy in Chicago, and they make magic gear.

I know we like loot, but this has marginal benefits as compared to what it might do for people who dont have our defenses.
We should let it go.
My two cents.
 
It's a cool leather jacket with runed studs.
And we are barely affected by heat.
Of course we can wear it everywhere, including school or church.
We arent affected by cold. We have no heat immunity I recall; we dont have the charm yet.
And Molly was enough of a clotheshorse that I dont see her wearing a jacket everywhere.
No matter how cool it may look.
 
[X] Try to claim one of them, they might be useful or at least interesting
-[X] The jacket


[X] Leave be and continue with what clean up you can
 
We arent affected by cold. We have no heat immunity I recall; we dont have the charm yet.
And Molly was enough of a clotheshorse that I dont see her wearing a jacket everywhere.
No matter how cool it may look.

Normal fluctuations of heat, as in a hot summer day, do not affect Molly because she makes it not hot all around by her very presence, it's a minor side benefit to her actual cold immunity. That last one has nothing 'normal' about it. Molly could walk on the surface of Pluto and be fine temperature-wise.
 
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Proposal for the level

Ox-Body Technique • (3XP)
Scar-Writ Saga Shield • (3XP)
Viridian Legend Exoskeleton •• (6XP)

Bringing our Toughness to a reasonable level.

Athletics •• (2XP)
Etiquette ••• (2XP)

Cheap improvement of often-used abilties.
Athletics is not only relevant to future Charms, but also to many everyday-activities like our running and jumping, as well as the attack-roll of thrown weapons.

General Utility:

Transcendent Lord of Flies • (4XP)

Besides ignoring all kinds of issues with hunger or thirst in the Nevernever or difficult real regions and allowing us to ignore uncomfortable temperatures completly (no matter if cold, hot or whatever), this one can also be activated to ignore all environmental damage. That means burning buildings are of no concern to us, depending on the interpretation neither are falling buildings.

Edit: If we ever go to a Hell it would also allow us to ignore flaying winds, sulfur rains and similar fun events.

False Springs Beckon ••• (9XP)

This one does everything Mercy in Servitude does but better and broader. I had to buy the cheap solution now and then have to buy the better one later anyway.

Total Cost: 29 XP
 
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If we want to go for max tanky, plans should include
Personal opinion?
WISHLIST
  1. Rage Recast Flight: 6XP
  2. 1x Ox Body: 3XP
  3. Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
  4. Allies/Followers 2(Cyberdevils): 6XP
Total: 21XP

That leaves 9XP for either
-Charms [Demonic Primacy of Essence OR Naked Wicked Souls OR Boiling Sea Mastery OR Mercy in Servitude OR Transcendent Lord of Flies]
-Stat ups (Etiquette,Athletics)
 
[X] Write-in: Crown of Eyes to ask what Mab knows about our Exaltation. Focus is museum door she passed through.
Somehow, questions as indirect as that or the one with Mister feel off. Overpowered, in an unthematic way. At the very least, it feels like we should use something that has an actual connection to the target, like we did with Lydia's footprints and boots.

Meanwhile the call to a Neverborn should be erased and forgotten.
Honest question, is there really an actual difference between Yozi and Neverborn by this time? Both are pretty much dead, their corpses the foundations of afterlives, and both are associated with spiritual pollution.
 
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Honest question, is there really an actual difference between Yozi and Neverborn by this time? Both are pretty much dead, their corpses the foundations of afterlives, and both are associated with spiritual pollution.
The Yozi have, as far as we know, never woken up post-mortem and tried to end the world with some successes.

If the Neverborn, no matter if that currently includes the former Yozi or not, are gone for good that is fine.
But if they are not totally ended then I do not want to risk waking them up, that's a worst-case on par with the Outer Gates breaking.
 
We've got 2 obligations to deal with ATM. We need to regularly visit undertown to renovate Porter's Den, and we need to talk to Mab before Samhain(October 31, it's currently July 22). We should consider those when it comes to XP spending plans.
 
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Normal fluctuations of heat, as in a hot summer day, do not affect Molly because she makes it not hot all around by her very presence, it's a minor side benefit to her actual cold immunity. That last one has nothing 'normal' about it. Molly could walk on the surface of Pluto and be fine temperature-wise.
Fair enough.
Somehow, questions as indirect as that or the one with Mister feel off. Overpowered, in an unthematic way. At the very least, it feels like we should use something that has an actual connection to the target, like we did with Lydia's footprints and boots.
I asked. I was told it was feasible.
She literally just walked through this door seconds ago.
Its about as close as we'll get without pilfering her trash.
 
I want to increase our toughness and gain the ability to fly. After that, the rest of the XP expenditures are gravy.
 
I want to increase our toughness and gain the ability to fly. After that, the rest of the XP expenditures are gravy.
Budget of 30XP?
Off the top of my head, I would go:

  1. Rage Recast Flight: 6XP
  2. 1x Ox Body: 3XP
  3. Viridian Legend Exoskeleton: 6XP
  4. Allies/Followers 2(Cyberdevils): 6XP
  5. Demonic Primacy of Essence: 4XP
  6. Naked Wicked Souls: 3XP
  7. Etiquette 3: 2XP
Total 30XP

-Flight because it allows us to negate terrain obstacles and to run away if necessary.
-Ox-Body for additional HP.
-Viridian Legend Exoskeleton gives us +4 Soak when activated.
-Allies/Followers 2 gives us Cyberdevils who can hack, greatly improving our ability to acquire information. Everything from personal emails to checking if a person has a criminal record or outstanding warrant. Maybe even fucking with their bank accounts.
Essential for keeping an eye on the Daedalus people and Chicago PD. Or on Lydia's lawyer. Secrets = Essence regen.
-Demonic Primacy of Essence for negotiating with or intimidating lesser creatures of darkness
-Naked Wicked Souls for vetting people or interrogating them. Also, uncovering secrets gives us Essence regen.
-Etiquette 3 improves our ability to navigate formal negotiations
 
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