Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

No a cellphone vibration is not a strong enough motion
What about two or three phones? Because we could get to a store on the way, and buy several burner phones. It would cost some essence to make them demonically possessed, though.

Or... If it's just the issue of a more powerful vibration, we could buy a gamepad with a vibration feedback and either jury rig it to Clippy, or possess it. Not sure if there were wireless gamepads then (I don't think so, at least wiki tells me they came out in November).

Not sure what other small vibrating smart device we could get quickly and on the way.
 
Getting Cindy released would be nice, but I'm highly tempted to just kill Kat on the side of the road somewhere.

Surprise triple team including a knight of the cross and one nominal peer backed up by a baby exalt sounds like much friendlier odds to me.

Especially if we have her car deliberately flip itself at 70-80 mph first.

We can free the kid once the main ritualist is throughly irradiated and smeared across the pavement.

Being honest I'd love to work with odin long term the dude is well hes smart and hes powerful if not as much as he is if stopped being mortal and caring enough to affect the mortal world as he does. Word of God hes benevolent though given mantles who knows if he always is or always will be benevolent.
Doing so jobs for him would be neat, but I'd like to avoid serious entanglement if we can.

Even a baby support network of our own would go a long way to making us more capable of remaining independent if we can get it running before making serious deals. Or at the very least as a high priority option early on in such relationships.

I'd rather not get stuck as a flunky, no matter how good the boss is.
 
Why are people going for Cindy killing Katrina is worth a thousand times more then a minor talent. More over freeing Cindy just make Katrina aware she need to prep for combat. So going after Cindy makes our enemies more of a threat not less.
 
[X] Search for Cindy with the Crown if you can get her out Katrina loses her leverage on Matthews
 
Doing so jobs for him would be neat, but I'd like to avoid serious entanglement if we can.

Even a baby support network of our own would go a long way to making us more capable of remaining independent if we can get it running before making serious deals. Or at the very least as a high priority option early on in such relationships.

I'd rather not get stuck as a flunky, no matter how good the boss is.
Might be good for getting start-up capital for one of the money-making schemes the thread's already come up with.
 
Especially if we have her car deliberately flip itself at 70-80 mph first.
Isn't Matthews with her?
Why are people going for Cindy killing Katrina is worth a thousand times more then a minor talent. More over freeing Cindy just make Katrina aware she need to prep for combat. So going after Cindy makes our enemies more of a threat not less.
Going after Katrina first almost certainly results in Cindy's death, and Matthews becoming our enemy.
 
Isn't Matthews with her?
I thought they stopped somewhere already, but that's not really clear. In any case I don't think she's kicking off the ritual right this minute, we can kill her when she heads out next if we position ourselves for it now.

Going after Katrina first almost certainly results in Cindy's death, and Matthews becoming our enemy.
Depends on her situation. A proper dead man's setup is a lot of effort to go to when you can instead leave her with some goons instead and call them to give orders.

Even killing Kat wouldn't actually get him his granddaughter back, so the relative advantage of immediate reprisal isn't that high.
 
[X] Search for Cindy with the Crown if you can get her out Katrina loses her leverage on Matthews
 
When Katrina hears that Cindy was freed. The first thing she will do is kill Matthew, then order a kill team deployed to kill the rest of his family.

An alpha strike on Katrina, then freeing Cindy is the only order of event where we can prevents deaths.
 
[X] Search for Cindy with the Crown if you can get her out Katrina loses her leverage on Matthews

Hostage denial is valuable because they need Matthews bad enough that they have to use a hostage rather than just force him. They need his MIND.
 
When Katrina hears that Cindy was freed. The first thing she will do is kill Matthew, then order a kill team deployed to kill the rest of his family.

An alpha strike on Katrina, then freeing Cindy is the only order of event where we can prevents deaths.
I don't know about that, depends on the circumstances. Matthews probably can't tell if she's free on the fly, and Kat already proved she had her. A bluff is a valid play right up until we're in the room with him.

My bet is that she'd try to get as much use out of the guy as possible before offing him. She seems to need his talents to set up part of the black feast, so immediately killing Matthews would only make sense if she gives up on the whole thing as a bad job.
 
What about two or three phones? Because we could get to a store on the way, and buy several burner phones. It would cost some essence to make them demonically possessed, though.

Or... If it's just the issue of a more powerful vibration, we could buy a gamepad with a vibration feedback and either jury rig it to Clippy, or possess it. Not sure if there were wireless gamepads then (I don't think so, at least wiki tells me they came out in November).

Not sure what other small vibrating smart device we could get quickly and on the way.

You guys could probably jerry-rig something, but it would take some time and the use of the crafting charm.
 
[X] Search for Cindy with the Crown if you can get her out Katrina loses her leverage on Matthews

Hostage first. If we do it right, they may not even be able to send out a warning about the hostage being rescued. And then we got her.
 
I'm not opposed to an alpha strike on Kartrina via vehicular demoncide, if such an outcome is still feasible, but before we do that we should at least confirm where Cindy is first.
 
You don't trust someone to do what you want when your leverage is gone, and that ritual a lot of power more then enough to put a lighting bolt thou her heart.
Which is another reason to go for Cindy first, because by this logic, there has to be a dead man's switch to prevent Matthews from killing her during the ritual (if such is possible). And she can't kill him now, before the ritual - she needs him still.
When the guards radio that they are under attack, or at least miss their check in.
That assumes they get the chance to do so.
You guys could probably jerry-rig something, but it would take some time and the use of the crafting charm.
Might be worth it.
 
I am torn on what to do, so i will vote for both by ideal options.

[X] Search for Cindy with the Crown if you can get her out Katrina loses her leverage on Matthews

[X] Try to ambush Katrina by her car, you know where it is and by all appearances she does not know you know
- [X] Try to catch her on the highway alone in her car. Use the spirit in her car to ram it into a tree or telephone pole at full speed. THEN drive up and jump her.
 
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