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The Lost Primarch Quest
- Thread starter Daemon Hunter
- Start date
[X] The Sol System. First meet with the Primarchs that Mortarion has gathered on Mars to discuss matters with them and Kelbor-Hal, then meet with Malcador on Terra afterward.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Sol System
[X] The Imperial Few
[X] The Imperial Few
- Location
- US of A
[X] The Sol System. First meet with the Primarchs that Mortarion has gathered on Mars to discuss matters with them and Kelbor-Hal, then meet with Malcador on Terra afterward.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
Arsene Lupin
I Am The Pillager Of Twilight
- Location
- The Sea of Souls
[X] The Sol System. First meet with the Primarchs that Mortarion has gathered on Mars to discuss matters with them and Kelbor-Hal, then meet with Malcador on Terra afterward.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
- Pronouns
- Psychic energy
[X] The Sol System. First meet with the Primarchs that Mortarion has gathered on Mars to discuss matters with them and Kelbor-Hal, then meet with Malcador on Terra afterward.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm want to support this plan, but I'm not totally sure about it. Is really a good idea to try to do more than one meeting? I feel like it's trying to have it's cake and eat it too.
Good point switching vote now
[X] Sigillite
- Location
- France
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] The Sigillite - Join Malcador for a meal, you have been invited.
[X] The Shadow War - The Sigillte begins to purge the Xenos within the Imperium's borders
[X] The Shadow War - The Sigillte begins to purge the Xenos within the Imperium's borders
It also feels counterproductive, we just received the Sigilite's reply about how we should have talked and then we go behind his back to meet people heightening the conflict before talking to him, how does that even work?
- Location
- Bronx new york
[X] The Sigillite - Join Malcador for a meal, you have been invited.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
- Location
- Somewhere left of nowhere near anywhere
[X] The Sigillite - Join Malcador for a meal, you have been invited.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
- Location
- Castlevania
[X] The Sigillite - Join Malcador for a meal, you have been invited.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
Going with these even with the obvious risk of meeting Malcador after such an event, the meeting can at least make Kesar explain himself to Malcador, I mean I am pretty sure he will not murder Kesar because while Malcador doubts his loyalty towards the Emperor and the Imperium, he must also know Kesar has shown no signs of wanting to take over the Imperium.
Also, I just noticed how perfect of a situation this is for Chaos, because if Civil War does happen and both Kesar and the Emperor fight each other, Chaos will win something anyway, as the Imperium will be horribly weakened by such a conflict no matter who wins. The juiciest stuff for the Four is going to be the fact that TWO of the Anathemas are trying to kill themselves.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
Going with these even with the obvious risk of meeting Malcador after such an event, the meeting can at least make Kesar explain himself to Malcador, I mean I am pretty sure he will not murder Kesar because while Malcador doubts his loyalty towards the Emperor and the Imperium, he must also know Kesar has shown no signs of wanting to take over the Imperium.
That's a pretty good question by Malcador.
Also, I just noticed how perfect of a situation this is for Chaos, because if Civil War does happen and both Kesar and the Emperor fight each other, Chaos will win something anyway, as the Imperium will be horribly weakened by such a conflict no matter who wins. The juiciest stuff for the Four is going to be the fact that TWO of the Anathemas are trying to kill themselves.
Bloody*Vermilion
The newbie of newbies on this site
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His/Etc
[X] The Sigillite - Join Malcador for a meal, you have been invited.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
[X] The Imperial Few - A trusted few Primarchs are brought to a discussion with the Emperor.
- Location
- Sweden
Well atleast we have the eldar maybe they can hold the line.
- Location
- Castlevania
The Aeldari are diminished even with the last triumphs. The Imperium is the greatest bulwark against Chaos right now. Especially since the Imperium has two Anathemas, but if these Anathemas were to fight... well canon 40k will be right around the corner.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Just going to crib from my comments in Discord. But I feel like the thread hasn't sufficiently grasped the Gravitas of Malcador basically responding to our letter by saying 'I don't trust you now, but stay in your lane and don't fuck things up'
We are so far past that.
It does feel like Malcador is being like 'see what you've almost done? Now sit in the corner while I fix your mess' to the Primarch LEAST likely historically to stay in his lane. Like what was the point in saying 'maybe come talk where I will say things and hope you listen. But let me remind you for the second time that I think this is pointless (but I'm still trying, it's not like I like you or anything, idiot)'.
Like, I think someone put it best in thread, but he just saw Kesar ready to start a Civil War on accident. If someone sufficiently motivated Kesar, he could end up leading one on purpose, and there are at least a dozen Primarchs with some sort of grievance or issue with the current way of things, and all of the ones who weren't sufficiently feeling rushed before now will feel that need when Emps decides to slap a handful with restrictions (for no real reason, honest!) And they freely mention "Yeah, no, it's because he thinks we're traitors."
If it's to the point where the Primarchs are willing and ready to make a public show to the military that they're not loyal, then why isn't the response trying to reach across and regain that loyalty?
If we meet with Malcador, that's basically it. That's the point of the meeting. Like. How are we going to fix this that isn't just you making a bunch of hurt, angry and now distrustful powerful people too useless to muck up your plans? Because that's not gonna work. You have like a year to get back to us. Not five, not fifteen. I don't think you can delay it any longer than that, and I don't think Kesar could either if he tried.
I can really only see this meeting being trying to drive it home that Malcador can't just bury this. He definitely can't bury a dozen Primarchs like he tried to do to Vulkan, with too much to bear until they just collapse and give up and give in and stop trying to do anything Malc and Emps don't want them to.
Either they actually address the Elephant in the room, or at best that's it. Primarch Domains stop responding to orders from Terra. And that's the BEST case scenario. That's what would happen if Kesar and the more level headed but still angry Primarchs got together and got the ones ready to throw down to deescalate.
We are so far past that.
It does feel like Malcador is being like 'see what you've almost done? Now sit in the corner while I fix your mess' to the Primarch LEAST likely historically to stay in his lane. Like what was the point in saying 'maybe come talk where I will say things and hope you listen. But let me remind you for the second time that I think this is pointless (but I'm still trying, it's not like I like you or anything, idiot)'.
Like, I think someone put it best in thread, but he just saw Kesar ready to start a Civil War on accident. If someone sufficiently motivated Kesar, he could end up leading one on purpose, and there are at least a dozen Primarchs with some sort of grievance or issue with the current way of things, and all of the ones who weren't sufficiently feeling rushed before now will feel that need when Emps decides to slap a handful with restrictions (for no real reason, honest!) And they freely mention "Yeah, no, it's because he thinks we're traitors."
If it's to the point where the Primarchs are willing and ready to make a public show to the military that they're not loyal, then why isn't the response trying to reach across and regain that loyalty?
If we meet with Malcador, that's basically it. That's the point of the meeting. Like. How are we going to fix this that isn't just you making a bunch of hurt, angry and now distrustful powerful people too useless to muck up your plans? Because that's not gonna work. You have like a year to get back to us. Not five, not fifteen. I don't think you can delay it any longer than that, and I don't think Kesar could either if he tried.
I can really only see this meeting being trying to drive it home that Malcador can't just bury this. He definitely can't bury a dozen Primarchs like he tried to do to Vulkan, with too much to bear until they just collapse and give up and give in and stop trying to do anything Malc and Emps don't want them to.
Either they actually address the Elephant in the room, or at best that's it. Primarch Domains stop responding to orders from Terra. And that's the BEST case scenario. That's what would happen if Kesar and the more level headed but still angry Primarchs got together and got the ones ready to throw down to deescalate.
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[X] The Sigillite - Join Malcador for a meal, you have been invited
- Location
- Reno Nv
[X] The Sigillite - Join Malcador for a meal, you have been invited
Id's rather we talk before anything else more severe happens. That and we may be able to keep the imperium from fracturing as well.
Id's rather we talk before anything else more severe happens. That and we may be able to keep the imperium from fracturing as well.
- Pronouns
- Human/Form/Keyblade
[X] The Sol System. First meet with the Primarchs that Mortarion has gathered on Mars to discuss matters with them and Kelbor-Hal, then meet with Malcador on Terra afterward.
[X] send Baldur to the lord commander to apologize for not being able to come(maybe blaming the delay of the council since we were going to meet him there)and promise a meeting this turn.
[X] send Baldur to the lord commander to apologize for not being able to come(maybe blaming the delay of the council since we were going to meet him there)and promise a meeting this turn.
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