Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

I mean that might well be the case, though keep in mind that if you bring in Gorfel he may well be bound to kill him since he is a Warden now and that rage spell trick was borderline Lawbreaking. Do you want Molly to see Harry execute someone?
I mean, it's not like wardens are obligated to execute lawbreakers as soon as they meet them. if possible they get them to the White Council. Bringing in a prisoner to the Council would be a good introduction, I think.
 
I mean, it's not like wardens are obligated to execute lawbreakers as soon as they meet them. if possible they get them to the White Council. Bringing in a prisoner to the Council would be a good introduction, I think.
Good point. The likelihood that the existence of the Thule Society as a modern magical group has entirely escaped White Council attention is fairly slim, but it's not completely out of the question. If the Society mages have been especially careful or lucky, and if their talents have been minor enough not to make too many waves, the Council might not know they're still around.

Bringing them to Harry's attention, and him passing that up the chain to the Council, could get him and us wizard brownie points.
 
I'm okay leaving the mooks for Marcone, but I would like more intel from the Warlock.

The White Council would propably be thorough in gathering information about Nazi-practitioners from him.
 
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So, if you say "just leave them", you will propably have to argue that against dad.

We are pretty good at Manipulation+Empathy, but do you think we are good enough to make a Knight of the Cross change believes in this matter?
 
So, if you say "just leave them", you will propably have to argue that against dad.

We are pretty good at Manipulation+Empathy, but do you think we are good enough to make a Knight of the Cross change believes in this matter?

Really? I'm under the impression Michael would object to us actively giving them to Marcone as opposed to giving them the theoretical opportunity to repent. Or the idea they can truly deserve whatever Marcone does.
 
Why on God's green Earth would we ever just turn these guys loose? That's insane!

They are murderous Nazi thugs and a freaking Nazi warlock. We've gone out of our way to make ourselves their enemy, and we've probably bled all over them and their clothing. A bit of blood makes targeting a spell via Thaumaturgy very easy if a practitioner knows what they're doing. Do we really want to risk that?

If y'all don't want to give them to Marcone for some reason or let Harry handle the warlock, at least vote to kill them instead.
 
They are murderous Nazi thugs and a freaking Nazi warlock. We've gone out of our way to make ourselves their enemy, and we've probably bled all over them and their clothing. A bit of blood makes targeting a spell via Thaumaturgy very easy if a practitioner knows what they're doing. Do we really want to risk that?
Blood only works if it's both fresh and uncontaminated. It's been a few minutes and it's soaked into their clothes.

They'd need to be an expert thaumaturgist to get even a basic tracking spell going, anything more is impossible.

Also Michael IC gives worse people a second chance.
Molly knows that.
 
Blood only works if it's both fresh and uncontaminated. It's been a few minutes and it's soaked into their clothes.

They'd need to be an expert thaumaturgist to get even a basic tracking spell going, anything more is impossible.

Also Michael IC gives worse people a second chance.
Molly knows that.
Michael is a good dude with a mission from God and a holy sword.

We have a mission to earn XP and a demon sword. Pretending to be goody goodies because dad is around is going to get real old, real fast. If he wants to ignore our recommendations, that's fine, let it be on his head if we face retaliation from Nazis or mobsters, but that doesn't mean we need to make stupid decisions just to appease him.
 
Why on God's green Earth would we ever just turn these guys loose? That's insane!

They are murderous Nazi thugs and a freaking Nazi warlock. We've gone out of our way to make ourselves their enemy, and we've probably bled all over them and their clothing. A bit of blood makes targeting a spell via Thaumaturgy very easy if a practitioner knows what they're doing. Do we really want to risk that?

If y'all don't want to give them to Marcone for some reason or let Harry handle the warlock, at least vote to kill them instead.
I totally think they should die and if this were some centuries earlier I would vote to gift Marcone the pikes to put their heads on...

But it's not dad's modus operandi, so we should at least consider how to argue here and not just rely on him taking our decision by default.
There will be a Manipulation + Empathy roll involved.
 
I totally think they should die and if this were some centuries earlier I would vote to gift Marcone the pikes to put their heads on...

But it's not dad's modus operandi, so we should at least consider how to argue here and not just rely on him taking our decision by default.
There will be a Manipulation + Empathy roll involved.
I'm already voting to consult with Harry before making any major decisions about what to do with them because of the Nazi warlock angle.
 

[X] Suggest leaving the mooks for Marcone or to run, but take the Warlock with you to Harry
-[X] "Best case this idiot here was lied to and the old sorcerer is in fact the entire organisation. But if that's not the case, I think the White Council or at least Harry personally should really know about the secret, magic Nazi-organisation that acts in Chicago and other places"
-[X] Try to get more information out of the old man once you are in a less time-pressed situation.
 
[X] Suggest leaving the mooks for Marcone or to run, but take the Warlock with you to Harry
-[X] "Best case this idiot here was lied to and the old sorcerer is in fact the entire organisation. But if that's not the case, I think the White Council or at least Harry personally should really know about the secret, magic Nazi-organisation that acts in Chicago and other places"
-[X] Try to get more information out of the old man once you are in a less time-pressed situation.
If the mooks have been playing host to rage spirits, I think Harry would probably want to examine them for side-effects. There's no telling what they've been letting into their bodies, or what effect that has had on them.

Also, they're basically one step from being Nazi werewolves. I think Harry is geek enough to appreciate the humor in this situation.

[X] Artemis1992
 
If the mooks have been playing host to rage spirits, I think Harry would probably want to examine them for side-effects. There's no telling what they've been letting into their bodies, or what effect that has had on them.
THe old man has the same rage-spirit, he's just better at controlling it.

Also, this would have been a very different encounter if we had taken Demonic Primacy of Essence.
Using an Excellency-enhanced 14 Dice at massivly lower difficulty to intimidate the spirits into stopping before the first bullet was shot...
 
[X] Suggest leaving the mooks for Marcone or to run, but take the Warlock with you to Harry
-[X] "Best case this idiot here was lied to and the old sorcerer is in fact the entire organisation. But if that's not the case, I think the White Council or at least Harry personally should really know about the secret, magic Nazi-organisation that acts in Chicago and other places"
-[X] Try to get more information out of the old man once you are in a less time-pressed situation.
 
Since Chihuahuas are literally possessed by spirits of rage and hate, this seems to be an appropriate comparison.

I mean Chihuahuas have a hell of a villain origin story to be fair

Once your ancestors were noble and free, the master of the primal woodlands and steppes.
Once your ancestors came upon mankind in the dawtime of their being and you saw in them a power that would reshape the world
Once your ancestors traveled the world, the doom of many beasts who thought themselves mightier, hunter sharp of nose and ear

Now look at you, belittled and made mock of, needing to be carried where your ancestors roamed free. Should you not rage against the unfairness of your fate? :V
 
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