Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
I think we should consider who we're trying to make a statement to? Do we want to try to intimidate and worry a bunch of Buddhist monks and their allies?
Also, if there is a threat, so we want to lose any benefit of surprise and show up in gear that's clearly supernatural so that they know we're something they need to deal with.
Also, if there is a threat, so we want to lose any benefit of surprise and show up in gear that's clearly supernatural so that they know we're something they need to deal with.
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To paraphrase one of my favorite exalted quotes, "The Exalted we're made to kill that which could not be slain. In this, like in all things, they exceeded all expectations."
- Location
- Germany
First we are clearly supernatural, Knights of the Cross don't usually have "take your daughter to work"-days.
Second we want to intimidate not the monks, but the party that will likely disturb the deal and cause a fight.
If Michael expects a fight, he is most likely right after all.
Wether the people to be intimidated will be mobsters, fey or other forces will be revealed in good time.
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- He/They
[X] Wear your armor openly, that is bound to make a statement
This is pretty straightforward - we're a supernatural bruiser here to provide security, and we're ready for trouble.
This is pretty straightforward - we're a supernatural bruiser here to provide security, and we're ready for trouble.
If they're going to attack when there's a Knight of the Cross present, they're not going to be deterred by the presence of a teenager in supernatural chain mail, so there's not benefit there. We won't be socially interacting with them. It's the monks and their contacts that will be in a position to be intimidated and get a negative impression of Molly as a result.
And for the attackers, the circumstantial effects of the apparent non-combatant suddenly and unexpectedly kicking ass is likely to be greater than them knowing she's a threat and preparing accordingly, no matter how well made her armour is.
They won't know that Molly has been brought along to fight. If she looks like a bystander, or, even better given CCC, a potential hostage, then we're in a lot more advantageous tactical position. You want to throw away the information advantage for essentially no benefit along with potentially disturbing and getting a bad reputation with future allies.
This hursts us rather than helps us.
Would buddhist monks who are receiving protection of a knight of the cross and dealing Marcone be intimidated by mildly spooky chainmail?
Especially if they know we are with them.
The armour's benefit is that it is quasi-supernaturally intimidating.
- Location
- Germany
Part of the reason for my vote is that I want to go loud and proud into the supernatural world and an Infernal is very well-suited for doing so.
Yes, it's not subtle, but it's the start of our legend, which will only grow from here on.
Well, not quite the start, the vamp-action was also nice, but the only surviving witnesses are pretty discrete.
Yes, it's not subtle, but it's the start of our legend, which will only grow from here on.
Well, not quite the start, the vamp-action was also nice, but the only surviving witnesses are pretty discrete.
WeylandSmith
Loose Cultivator
- Location
- [Global State]
[X] Wear your armor openly, that is bound to make a statement
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
I also want Charity to see us in our new armor. No way she won't be around to see him off when Michael leaves on an official assignment, so not only will she know that we are getting into the supernatural danger-zone despite her best efforts, she'll see us in a skintight armored bodysuit of exquisite make beyond anything she could have produced for Michael on her best day. That will also rub in her face that she herself could have been making us armor, if she wasn't busy ignoring the issue and doing volunteer food delivery instead.
Yes, it's petty. Seems fitting for an angry and frustrated teenager still firmly in her rebellious phase.
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- Germany
I mean, no, she can't.
You can't make armor in like one or two days, without being Exalted.
And having access to a crafting charm, without that even the Chosen would struggle.
Because she doesnt know what she wants to be?
Because giving up an information advantage in the Dresdenverse is a good way to give your enemies a leg up on you?
Wizards and supernaturals hoard their secrets for a reason.
Nice.
Molly is a 17 year old Infernal with Appearance 1, Investigation 0, Streetwise 0, and no local connections in the criminal underworld or the magic society. She is already at an information disadvantage, and making her fucking unapproachable puts her in an even worse situation information-wise than she already is
Its less than a week since she was hanging on a magic tree because she did some minor mental magic.
Less than a week since she was comtemplating the White Council coming for her head
That leaves an impression. Even on teens.
We CAN make luxury goods if we choose to.
A refurbished Nissan Altima, OTOH, or a Honda bike, is not a luxury good.
And you're going to find a lot more wrecked Altimas and Hondas for repair than you'll find Shelby Cobras and hotrod bikes.
For everyone voting to Make A Statement, I am going to ask that you be very sure what that statement is and if its worth the price.
We are tough not invulnerable, and remain a baby Solaroid who is barely out of chargen.
There are a lot of people out there who know more about what an Infernal can do, and its weak points, than we do.
Going out loud and proud gives all of them warning that a Princess of Hell walks the earth again.
Just the Denarians alone have head angels who will recognize Molly's description on sight.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Obviously she wouldn't be finished with it by now, but she could have been making the effort. I don't hold it against her, and I doubt Molly would either, but I want her to be bothered by it.
- Location
- United States
[X] Wear your armor openly, that is bound to make a statement
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
[X] Just go in your Sunday best, that'll confuse them
- Location
- Germany
The Denarians will find out about us very soon anyway.
The spymaster of hell, who can hear all secrets spoken in shadow, will certainly keep an ear out to the three (only three, in all the world) knights who keep foiling Denarian plots.
We didn't buy the Nickelheads as an Enemy-Backround because we think we can avoid their attention.
You are very mistaken.
Charity is one of Molly's 3 Intimacies. The woman went to Arctis Tor for her.
Do not mistake the fact that the two of them do not agree about lifestyle choices for an assumption that Molly thinks her mother would resent her for making good armor.
Yes, and the Intimacy is Love/Resentment.
There is love, but its not untainted. Especially right now.
Emotional and people who are emotionally hurt...may not act or think rationally.
Molly probably could if she wanted with WP9 and Int 4. But WP 9 may also just make her dig in.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
[X] Wear your armor openly, that is bound to make a statement
I mean, seriously, in our profession this is the business suit. It shows a proper degree of professionalism, evidence that we aren't just some fuck being carted around for bring-your-daughter-to-work-day.
Despite our not necessarily needing tools... what is our potential for creating tools that act as time savers? Things that do things we could do but don't want to burn a day doing, things that we can let run in the background. Or which let us handle something more complex because we are offloading some of the burden away from our raw mojo. Or things that let us cheat in other ways like something that brings a closed area down to the temperature where you start getting dry ice?
I mean, seriously, in our profession this is the business suit. It shows a proper degree of professionalism, evidence that we aren't just some fuck being carted around for bring-your-daughter-to-work-day.
Despite our not necessarily needing tools... what is our potential for creating tools that act as time savers? Things that do things we could do but don't want to burn a day doing, things that we can let run in the background. Or which let us handle something more complex because we are offloading some of the burden away from our raw mojo. Or things that let us cheat in other ways like something that brings a closed area down to the temperature where you start getting dry ice?
Doesn't mean we should make it worse. We shouldn't do anything to hurt Charity more than is necessary to spread our own wings. She'll get hurt but it should be minimized.
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Uh, there isn't anything anyone is voting to make it worse, other than wearing the armour openly, which you are also voting for.
We didnt buy the Denarians as an Enemy Background so that we could give them freebies on information either.
Only Anduriel can hear secrets spoken in shadow, which means only those working directly with Nicky know about Molly right now, assuming that Nicky told them.
And most of them dont work with Nicky, except on special occasions; last time, only four or five Denarians were in Chicago.
Going out openly means they ALL know.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
Not in the vote now, certainly. But in previous ones we had a few strong voices moving to lash out in one way or another. Right here all we have to do is not flaunt it in front of one specific person and, hell, we'd probably be wearing a jacket on the way to the site just to keep ourselves from getting looked at askance by passing cops or whatever.
Mostly I don't want the thought that having a mixed feelings intimacy, or our feeling wronged, makes it a good idea to push back unless its specifically useful.
I probably jumped on the thought harder than I should have though.