Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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We do know of the wolves from Harry. Molly won't start the fight there.
Exaltations cannot be broken, that is one of those bone deep things Molly knows even as she does not even know the word 'Exaltation'. They can be bound, they can be altered, but they cannot be made less than what they were, much less unmade.
Flashing your caste mark at people/pulling a sword out of your heart and talking very fast is a great way to convince people you are older than you look. There are a lot of 'older than they look' supernaturals out there.
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Exaltations could be dunked deep into Oblivion, hidden in the deep Wyld, away from creation so far that not even Primordials know the slightest bit about, or simply sealed away in Nowhere.
Indestructible, but not axiomatically bound to be relevant.
Indestructible, but not axiomatically bound to be relevant.
That is even true. From a certain point of view.
The charms mostly arent Brawl-specific.
At least, the interesting ones arent.
I dont believe we do.
We know of the Alphas IC, we dont know who they are, and certainly cant distinguish random wolves, random coyotes or other groups of werewolves from the Alphas in wolf form. They certainly dont know her, and someone who rolls up looking for them with no bona fides is just as likely to get in a fight. We're in "you're engineering an Incident" territory.
There's a reason Im flagging do your research as literally the second most important thing we can do right now after crafting armor.
We have the most experienced Lawful Good paladin alive as our father, and Heaven's spymaster literally authorized him to tutor us.
Learn from him while we can, before he has to go fight in Tibet or somewhere similar.
His knowledge is worth its weight in gold.
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Goldfish
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I wonder if Harry would let us hang out with Bob? We could probably pry a surprising amount of info out of him if we're willing to flash him some sideboob.
Unless you seal them in something, like the Jade Prison or seen here, they can travel ...basically anywhere, and instantly.
They're either bound and irrelevant or free and relevant.
Even if sent to Nowhere, like some Charms or spells and stuff do iirc, they come back in a few days.
Edit: Also, about being dunked into Oblivion, I don't...think so?
There is the Void Circle Necromancy where you travel anywhere in existence by jumping into the Void and ceasing to exist, via help from the Neverborn. If you fuck it up and the Neverborn dont deign to save you and you fall into Oblivion, the Exaltation is fine and fucks off after you cease to exist.
Edit 2: If it was possible to destroy them or trap them using Nowhere or Oblivion, the Usurpation or Titans would've done that.
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Great way to empty the premises.
McAnally's clientele are customarily the sort of small magical fry that consider Harry Dresden to be a big magical player.
The sort of people who make themselves scarce when their betters show up.
Like people with caste marks, dematerializing swords and quasidivine Essence.
The amount of mojo she'd have to throw around would obviate the purpose of attending.
And that assumes that MacAnally cant recognize her on sight; she's recognizably Charity and Michael's daughter, and Mac didnt get his place officially recognized as Accorded Neutral Ground by counting bottlecaps.
Nope.
He kept Bob a secret from Molly for the first several months, if not couple years, of her apprenticeship.
I dont expect that is likely to change here.
The Winter Court held Molly's Exaltation captive for what sounds like Ages. Capital A.
I suspect Exaltations are significantly lower powered here than in Creation that Was, and that there are no other Celestial Exaltations currently out there atm in the Dresdenverse.
I would admittedly roll to see who you terrified, but even on the worst possible roll someone will stick around for curiosity's sake. You do not become part of this scene by being 100% cautious over curious and this is Accord Neutral Ground.
The Exaltations are undiminished, if I understant what DP said. It was locked away in something like a DIY Jade Prison in both Yomi Wan and Winter.
Why DIY? It broke out by itself once a valid host came close enough.
I feel like Exaltations are scattered in these one Exaltation per prison things all over the universe.
Its possible that there are actually hundreds of Solaroids and Sids around...in the context of the greater universe, which in Dresden is a multiverse.
So its just that we are unlikely to meet them in our world.
Not guaranteed, but it would make sense.
Harry first had to hit the frozen tree with summer fire, it did not escape on its own. You have to remember Winter is pretty damn strong, it is one of the fundamental forces that guides the seasons and it is the guard against the Outer Gates.
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Well this is going to be interesting. Not sure how we're going to get through this with some sort of positive relationship with Charity without effectively voting to be a pod person, but I guess we'll figure it out.
Molly never for a moment doubted her mother's intent, she just believes she's wrong and wants to make her into something she's not for her own good.
Having time to work through this is good, but life still moves on. Forcing them to stay in a social cage match just creates the conditions needed for one of them to say or do something they can't easily take back. Or simply wear at each other until they can't stand to be in the same room.
In most cases he's just strong enough that he's worth paying attention to for the big players.
From the perspective of people who can barely light a candle with magic the difference between him and the current Merlin might as well be academic.
Well this is going to be interesting. Not sure how we're going to get through this with some sort of positive relationship with Charity without effectively voting to be a pod person, but I guess we'll figure it out.
Empathy isn't the same thing as agreeing or accepting something.
Molly never for a moment doubted her mother's intent, she just believes she's wrong and wants to make her into something she's not for her own good.
Having time to work through this is good, but life still moves on. Forcing them to stay in a social cage match just creates the conditions needed for one of them to say or do something they can't easily take back. Or simply wear at each other until they can't stand to be in the same room.
Being fair to those guys, he is in the top few percent of living wizards in terms of magical strength.
In most cases he's just strong enough that he's worth paying attention to for the big players.
From the perspective of people who can barely light a candle with magic the difference between him and the current Merlin might as well be academic.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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I wouldn't expect Bob to just be brought up in casual conversation or for Harry to play talking skull show and tell any time soon, but holy crap would Bob be a huge resource if we could get access.
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She knows about the Alphas, she knows they are werewolves, she knows they are good people. She knows they are near the University.
[x] Spending money to make decent gear.
-[x] Make something to sell (write in what; can be taken multiple times)
-[x] Make something to sell (write in what; can be taken multiple times)
--[x] Make some Dresses and Sell them to a high class shop. Get the word out about an new tailor out their. Build up a client list you can sell overpriced fabric to, whenever you want.
-[x] Ask your dad about the supernatural world, his perspective is bound to be different than Harry's
-[x] Visit Rosie in the Hospital
[X] Plan: Prep work and Rosie
[X]Plan Cecelyne
Rosie, Molly best friend, And making money, with a talk with Dad. Reminding people that quality armor and equipment still needs proper material to make. Crafting charms let you get the best out of stuff but junk is still junk.
-[x] Make something to sell (write in what; can be taken multiple times)
-[x] Make something to sell (write in what; can be taken multiple times)
--[x] Make some Dresses and Sell them to a high class shop. Get the word out about an new tailor out their. Build up a client list you can sell overpriced fabric to, whenever you want.
-[x] Ask your dad about the supernatural world, his perspective is bound to be different than Harry's
-[x] Visit Rosie in the Hospital
[X] Plan: Prep work and Rosie
[X]Plan Cecelyne
Rosie, Molly best friend, And making money, with a talk with Dad. Reminding people that quality armor and equipment still needs proper material to make. Crafting charms let you get the best out of stuff but junk is still junk.
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Yeah, but Harry didn't arrange an introduction and we look like a predatory fey at best.
The Alpha's whole thing is hunting stuff that goes bump in the night in their area. If we just show up without a better idea of who they are and how to contact them specifically we might end up jumped by wolves.
Molly doesn't exactly have any nonlethal self defense tools; it's melee with a magic sword or bust. If we get attacked things could get messy.
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Attacking a fey unprovoked only allows the fey to hit back, the alphas know better than to play into a fey's limits.
And as soon as she name drops Harry, says he's a family friend the reception gets markedly warmed.
Especially since fey can't lie.
Really? Huh. Thats a lot more foolhardy than I thought.
I was thinking it would be more along the lines of the events of earlier this week/last week IC, when Maeve and Lily showed up to meet Dresden at MacAnally's and everyone else ran away.
I would think quasidivine Hell-flavored Power would have much the same impact on any customers.Proven Guilty Chapter 20 said:
Especially coming from an unknown quantity.
Especially since Maeve and Molly's tastes in fashion arent all that far away from each other: multicolored hair, piercings, tight clothes.
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Close enough to cause the sort of confusion that wise supernaturals avoid.Maeve said:
Thank you for providing a citation.
Nevertheless, I will remind you: She's never met them before. They have never met her before.
They are by no means the only human werewolf pack we've seen in canon, let alone a fae pack or something stranger.
Literally attempting to stumble on them is at best, chancy.
Fey do not need you to overstep to do anything; the fetches who were murdering people at Splattercon earlier this week werent retaliating. And namedropping someone without actually being introduced does not actually translate to open doors in the Dresdenverse, where a lot of fae and other supernaturals can change faces at the drop of a hat.
And there are a lot more supernaturals than just the fey. The fey are just the best at twisting words.
Seriously, Billy literally just married his fiance Georgia a couple of months ago, and Maeve the Winter Lady personally sent her handmaiden Jenny Greenteeth to the wedding wearing another face in order to fuck it up because she bore a grudge for something that happened a year or two ago.
This is not a setting where you just show up and expect that saying someone's name is a shibboleth.
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The rules for faerie behavior are complicated, but generally only the really powerful ones are restricted from screwing with mortals when they're not on duty or in specific scenarios like being a guest. A lot of them, like fetches, need or at least prefer to prey on mortals for a variety of things.
I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but it is a risk that could bite us pretty badly. It'd be better to get a phone number from Harry and call ahead, or better yet have him introduce us.
The magical community is all word of mouth and who you know, so that shouldn't be unusual. All he needs to say is that he's showing us around since we're new to the scene and he doesn't want us to start shit with anyone on accident.
We can pay him with high precision metal work, which he pays through the nose to get from mortals or groups like svartelves. Or possibly with a single (subject to rephrasing) question through the crown.
Harry is willing to do things like share parts of his true name with sketchy spirits for hints on more than a few occasions. An exchange like that would be worth a lot to him.
You do not quite rank as scary as both Fey Ladies at the same time. I mean one of the problems with them is that not only are they strong, but they also have issues with one another, so they might for instance egg each other on to steal a certain mortal or some other fey nonsense.
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Jack vile Ripper
The swellest guy in Creation.
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Guess who's just done all of his final exam? This motherfucker, that's who!
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Ahhh, feels good. Also, on the topic of Fastest Exalt, that'd be Abyssals. I once did a test and they could reach like Mach speed.
[X] Plan First morning
Ahhh, feels good. Also, on the topic of Fastest Exalt, that'd be Abyssals. I once did a test and they could reach like Mach speed.