Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] No, you will not limit yourself thus (Lose Mentor; you are refunded 5 Freebie points; ???)

Commit financial domination of the mortal world and watch as all the supernatural powers get confused on if this falls under their mandate.

"Molly I have to stop you!"
"Stop me from doing what, Harry?"
"Your... crimes."
"Ah, and those would be?"
"I'll be honest Molly, most of what the signatories were raging about went completely over my head but Uriel did say it was apocalyptic."
"Huh? Well it's no fun if we do battle and you can't even appreciate my malevolent genius. Here let's take a couple hours and I will explain my reverse-dividend credit divergence methodology on parallel oblique markets."
"Honestly Molly I would feel much better if you just made a monster face and attacked me."
 
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[X] No, you will not limit yourself thus (Lose Mentor; you are refunded 5 Freebie points; ???)

Commit financial domination of the mortal world and watch as all the supernatural powers get confused on if this falls under their mandate.

"Molly I have to stop you!"
"Stop me from doing what, Harry?"
"Your... crimes."
"Ah, and those would be?"
"I'll be honest Molly, most of what the signatories were raging about went completely over my head but Uriel did say it was apocalyptic."
"Huh? Well it's no fun if we do battle and you can't even appreciate my malevolent genius. Here let's take a couple hours and I will explain my reverse-dividend credit divergence methodology on parallel oblique markets."
"Honestly Molly I would feel much better if you just made a monster face and attacked me."
They'd have to be pretty desperate to send Harry to stop a stock manipulation scheme. It's only a half step better than conscripting Mouse to do your taxes, and only that because Dresden has at least one functional thumb throughout the whole series.
 
OK so plots to get Wall Street possessed and found a mega-corp aside that looks like a yes on not spying on angels.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jul 21, 2022 at 1:31 AM, finished with 212 posts and 45 votes.
 
Oh damn, I didn't even think of going full megacorp!

That's a good modern theme for Mollys personal hell. What's a good megacorp name?

Incandescent Incorporated
Viridian Corp

Maybe something demonic or nuclear related, not having a lot of ideas.

But anyway, I think it'd be cool to fashion Mollys Demon Empress aesthetic with that kind of vibe.
 
Potential option for dealing with very immortal enemies would be adapting this spell:
ETERNAL CRYSTALLINE ENCASEMENT
Cost: 20m
Target: One creature or object
Beginning at dawn on a clear day, the sorcerer catches strands of Essence and new sunlight in her hands and sings an old weaving song of the First Age. She weaves through the fullness of the day, wrapping her target in a glowing fi eld of light. The target cannot exceed 27 cubic feet (more than enough for a human being). Living beings must be unconscious through the entire process, as any motion ruins the weaving. As the sun sets on that day, the sorcerer speaks the Word of Solidity and the Essence-woven light hardens into a crystal coating in all the hues of the rising and setting sun. With the last bits of light and Essence, the sorcerer weaves a thin wand of the same material. Items so encased are immune to the ravages of time, neither suffering corrosion or decay, nor aging. Encased creatures do not perceive time's passage. The crystalline encasement is absurdly strong (50L/50B soak), but brittle (only a single health level). It ignores mortal sources of damage such as attacks made without Charms or magical weapons. Overcoming its soak by even a single level of damage shatters the crystalline encasement. The crystal shell also crumbles to golden dust if countered with Sapphire Countermagic or if the wand created at the end of the spell's casting is touched to it
The sourcebook says pretty clearly that you can adapt spells not yet in the book, as long as you tone down the total power to roughly Emerald Circle.

If we capture something in our stasis-prison and put said prison in some deep and hidden part of our personal hell it should be relativly safe.
 
Arc 1 Post 5: The Family Trade
The Family Trade

7th of July 2006 A.D.

At the back of your mind temptation whispers and it is not just in Usum's voice. They come in reasonable garb. What if you need to ask about the swords to make sure you will not harm one by picking it up in battle? What if you need to ask about the Fallen to help dad and the other Knights? They are sort of angels right? But underneath them all stands a starker question: Why should I have to blind my sight? And that you do not trust.

"Alright, that sounds... good," you say, feeling more lighthearted once the words are out. As much as part of you might want to know about the swords, angels and other things of Heaven the idea of just looking at them stripped of all veils is also daunting. And it's not like you can't find out about them some other way, the only thing you had promised was not to turn the eyes of your crown on them.

"You weren't sure how to answer," your dad's words could have been judgy, but they aren't, just sort of a question without a question, open ended in case you wanted to talk about it.

"When... when I was in Arctis Tor I wished for power to get out, a sword to fight and fire to burn the fey with, a shield from the cold and one from fear, but most of all I asked that I would never again be blind and stumble into evil of my own doing and that of others blind. It hurts to give some of that away."

"I'm sorry I couldn't be there for you Molly," he says squeezing you around the shoulders briefly.

"You were doing good things, saving people," you assure him quietly. Dad might be a hero, but he can only be in one place at a time and this time Providence judged that he should be best somewhere else than cleaning up after your mess.

"I would have rather been there to save you than people." He sighs. "We all have doubts you know, you, me, your mom, your siblings. Doubts don't make you a bad person, it's just part of being human."

A wizard just told me I'm not human enough for their laws though, the thought springs to mind, but you don't say it. It is not like the White Council is the best judge of humanity, they have a standing death warrant on those who commit crimes in ignorance.

"So this mentor thing," you say instead, feeling the beginnings of a smile steal across your face.. "That is not about carpentry is it?"

"No, it's not," he agrees. "Much as I might wish all you wanted and all that had been asked of me was to teach you how to carve wood safe at home."

"What do we tell mom?" you ask, feeling a bit less like smiling. Your first instinct would be to sort of fail to mention some of stuff with the vampires and the monsters from beyond space and time, but that wouldn't cut it with dad.

"We tell her that you have chosen a path and I will be there to guide you and help you to the best of my abilities and more." You swear you can hear Amoracchius in the silence that follows, like a gentle hum so unlike its song of battle.

***​

It is a relief to just let your dad handle things, though you feel a little guilty letting him bear the full weight of your mom's sharp looks and pointed questions he handles them all with grace and understanding, a lot more of both than you might have mustered truth be told. You practically have to bite your tongue when he suggests that you should have run from the vampires. Did she really think you could outrun a swarm of flying giant bat monsters or just leave it to the wizards to handle the fangs and claws? Wizards being notoriously good at fighting in close quarters.

"I don't see why she has to fight anything!" your mother finally says, her voice going up with every syllable until it is just shy of yelling.

"She does not have to do anything, she wants to do good with the gifts she has," dad replies gently. "That is all any of us can do."

"She is a child!" You wince, the word had come out less angry and more pleading. At this point you would have probably caved, given her whatever assurances she asked for and then gone behind her back, but dad is made of sterner stuff.

"For four months Charity." The words are... stark. "She is going to be eighteen this November, she was always going to be eighteen this November. If she decided to be a firefighter, a police officer or an EMT what would you have done?"

"It's not..." she cuts herself off then takes a deep breath, in a gesture so familiar it's startling. "If it's what you choose to do Molly, but I want you to promise me to keep your grades, up listen to your father when you go out and not go off haring off without him into danger. No... stirring up trouble just because you are curious what it looks like."

From the tone, it's clear she would think that Bock Ordered Books is too dangerous to go into without dad and you really do not want to get into another fight because you went in some place like that alone or went to help Harry when dad was not around. On the other hand you are not sure how much more you can push her tonight.

What do you reply?

[] Agree to her condition

[] Argue (Charisma+Empathy; may use Excellency; Stunt Optional)

[] Write in


OOC: And here we are, things will be speeding up into weekly turns soon.
 
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Michael is good at socials (as long as he is sincere, he is almost perpernaturally bad at lying)

Potential option for dealing with very immortal enemies would be adapting this spell:

The sourcebook says pretty clearly that you can adapt spells not yet in the book, as long as you tone down the total power to roughly Emerald Circle.

If we capture something in our stasis-prison and put said prison in some deep and hidden part of our personal hell it should be relativly safe.

That is basically what Demonreach does so yeah it's perfectly valid as a solution to the stubbornly immortal.
 
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[X] Agree to her condition

Quick spelling and grammar fixes:
"So this meteor thing,"
should be mentor
help you to t he best of my abilities
extra space
No... stirrting up trouble
should be stirring
From the tone it's clear
should have a comma after tone
keep your grades up listen to your father
needs a comma or "and" after grades
 
Hm.

Keep our grades up - sure, handling school and monster-hunting should be easy for an Exalt. Listen to our father - yes, obviously, that Mentor 5 isn't for show. Stirring up trouble - I think we'll have enough trouble coming our way already without looking for more.

Not going haring off… Michael isn't always going to be around, and as Molly notes our idea of danger is very different to what Charity thinks.

Well, three out of four ain't bad.

If we capture something in our stasis-prison and put said prison in some deep and hidden part of our personal hell it should be relativly safe.

Oh boy, sure would be convenient if we had literally a prison designed for immortal superbeings just in Lake Michigan, wouldn't it? Mmhm, sure would.

Yeah, that's not a Charm I think we'll be needing once Harry contracts with Demonreach. (Edit: ninja'd by QM.)
 
I'm thinking we need to argue on the haring off bit. If people are in danger we ARE going in, and I don't think breaking a deal that easily would be a good idea for trust
 
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[X] Argue (Charisma+Empathy)
-[X] Use Excellency
-[X] You agree to the first parts, you will do your best in school and you will listen to dad, but you can't promise not to go into trouble if it shows itself, or to avoid all places where it might find you. The craving for knowledge is part of you on the one hand and the desire to act when you see wrongs being commited is all on your parent's education on the other hand.
 
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[X] Argue (Charisma+Empathy)
-[X] Use Excellency
-[X] You agree to the first parts, you will do your best in school and you will listen to dad, but you can't promise not to go into trouble if it shows itself, or to avoid all places where it might find you. The craving for knowledge is part of you on the one hand and the desire to act when you see wrongs being commited is all on your parent's education on the other hand.

We're going into longer plans and we probably won't need that much Essence. We can spend some on Exce.
 
Okay, just found this quest today, but if I can make a suggestion? Ask that "dangerous situations" be defined by our dad's standards instead of hers. And a waver for if someone in front of us needs help now and we think we can. The "Dad's definition" clause should at least let us go book shopping, and moral arguments should work for someone needing immediate help.
 
I think the heart of Charity's concern is that we're going to do something reckless and stupid. There's what's reckless and stupid for a mortal or wizard and there's what's reckless and stupid for exalt and the threshold is higher. The part about keeping our grades up is meant to ensure we have a way out/shot at normal life if it comes down to it.
 
I will point out that this is not a magic oath.

We are just telling Charity that we will be careful and not go looking for trouble. That is it.

This is not an eclipse oath and we are not bound by it.
 
"Not go off haring off without him into danger" is the dealbreaker. We won't violate our own conscience if something dire and pressing was to occur within our reach. We're not going to, say, start randomly kicking in the door to Red Court safehouses but... seriously... fuck the idea of doing nothing when people are going to die. That isn't worth Charity's comfort or our safety.

Nor would we be opposed to going into a situation with someone who isn't our father. Harry or Harry's own mentor or who the fuck knows. We would agree to not using them as an excuse to go out, we'd agree to getting an all clear from our dad, but I don't want to be made a liar here by accepting conditions we wouldn't be able to keep or else live with.

And we're bound until we are eighteen. We hit eighteen and one minute and we are our own person.
 
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@DragonParadox I have a question about how our crown works. Let's say we look at Harry Dresden and ask the question "how does wizard's regeneration work?". Following the lottery logic, does this mean that we now can't ask a question about wizards in general? If so, can we still look at, say, Mccoy and ask "what are the identities of his blood relatives?" as that is a question about him as a person, not a wizard?
 
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