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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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[X] Expand Official Backchannels
I want to make it easier for InOps to identify Nod infiltrators. Setting up additional official (monitored) lines of communication to pre-vetted groups will reduce the burden on InOps by reducing the number of "harmless" infiltrators and the amount of information that is being passed below the table, thus reserving their resources and attention for more harmful moles.

This will almost certainly introduce problems of its own, but we can add additional regulation and attention to it later as they crop up.
 
Ithillid said:
The project is not dead. It is more that you can't dodge building an actual stockpile. Parliament, and the committee overseeing it are mostly just irritable right now, because they see you as having basically ignored their priorities.
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If they're so concerned about stockpiles, why can't they do that themselves? what exactly is Agriculture doing with all our hard won funds after reallocation? Because it honestly feels like it all just gets sucked into a black hole and then the other departments start demanding even more on our newly-reduced income.
 
Hazard said:
If you want to institutionalize the government preferentially leaking information for the greater benefit of the people who get their hands on the information rather than, you know, properly following the procedures that are focused on making sure the public gets informed as to the government's plans when the government is ready to roll those plans out...

Basically, if you want insider trading and other corrupt schemes without being able to do anything about it, official backchannels is how you get it
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Nah, official backchannels is how you make sure info travels easily to the people that should know about it like other government agencies. It's hardly insider trading and corruption.

As a bonus, with it being easier for info to travel to people that should have it, it also makes it far more suspicious when info is leaked to people that shouldn't. Better official backchannels means anyone sharing intel any other way has no excuse

Changed mind

[x] -Eliminate Outside Influence
 
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[x] -Eliminate Outside Influence While a complete purge of the bureaucracy is inadvisable, a few rounds of firing, and a series of mandatory refresher courses on information security may help stem the outflow of information. However this is likely to only be a very temporary solution, as the Treasury will still maintain an extremely large role in the overall economy, and therefore be of great interest to other parties. (-5 to Bureaucracy dice until Q2 2061)
 
Phant0m5 said:
If they're so concerned about stockpiles, why can't they do that themselves? what exactly is Agriculture doing with all our hard won funds after reallocation? Because it honestly feels like it all just gets sucked into a black hole and then the other departments start demanding even more on our newly-reduced income.
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Uh, what? There is no Department of Agriculture that's distinct from the Treasury, that's all us. They're referring to our Agricultural sector, that we're constantly leaving dice idle in while ignoring Parliament's clear wishes for years on end.
 
Phant0m5 said:
If they're so concerned about stockpiles, why can't they do that themselves? what exactly is Agriculture doing with all our hard won funds after reallocation? Because it honestly feels like it all just gets sucked into a black hole and then the other departments start demanding even more on our newly-reduced income.
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Paying agricultural staff, maintenance on machinery, transporting food, transporting seeds and fertiliser, running experiments on new crop varieties, various bureaucratic and upkeep costs, replacing damaged or worn out equipment, tests to make sure the food is safe, tests to make sure tib hasn't gotten into the soil, and about a thousand other things

You know, everyday stuff
 
MightbeaMimic said:
Nah, official backchannels is how you make sure info travels easily to the people that should know about it like other government agencies. It's hardly insider trading and corruption.
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Well, as written at least the option includes backchannels to influential political parties and private businesses as well as other branches of the government. Other government employees are fine but I really don't like giving back room favoritism to select political parties or cooperatives. Especially because it won't be ALL political parties and cooperatives, just those with enough influence and ideological alignment to win Treasury favor.
 
[X] Eliminate Outside Influence

This is the best of a lot of bad options unless and until we get to the point where the Treasury is using a fifth of the overall budget instead of a third of it at the very least. This is a short term solution where the long term solution is for the Treasury to fade into the economical background when the economy is built up enough.
 
Phant0m5 said:
If they're so concerned about stockpiles, why can't they do that themselves? what exactly is Agriculture doing with all our hard won funds after reallocation? Because it honestly feels like it all just gets sucked into a black hole and then the other departments start demanding even more on our newly-reduced income.
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So, when we finish a project to produce more food, logically there should be an ongoing cost. For salaries, for maintenance, for modernizing the facilities, for security, for addressing tiberium contamination, for sourcing the inputs and distributing the outputs, and more. And yet we don't pay for that. Parliament pays someone else to deal with it.

Similarly, we only see a subset of R&D projects. Typically only those that require a vast sum of resources and expertise to address. The rest are handled elsewhere.

If parliament wants more food and food stockpiles, they pay the people responsible for building the infrastructure to grow food and build stockpiles. That's us. We could try to spin-off a subdepartment so that we can do those actions more efficiently, we could ask the QM to allow us an option to allow private industry to grow food (and then give them grants), or we can ask the QM to have parliament remove Agriculture from our list of responsibilities and have them assign it to someone else (which would probably come at a very, very steep PS cost and a commensurate reduction in the resources they allocate to us).
 
Phant0m5 said:
If they're so concerned about stockpiles, why can't they do that themselves? what exactly is Agriculture doing with all our hard won funds after reallocation? Because it honestly feels like it all just gets sucked into a black hole and then the other departments start demanding even more on our newly-reduced income.
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Because there is really not one outside of Treasury influence? Like, they are getting a very small slice of the reallocation funds for things like fuel, spare parts, and the like, but most of the funding that is getting taken away is going to other groups, like Intelligence, Army, Air Force, Navy, Welfare, etc.
 
[X] Expand Official Backchannels

I am in favor of this, this might allow us to open Political Support Options without spending a Bureaucracy Die

Also, we might need to divert all free dice to agriculture next turn

I will vote for any plan.with 3 to 5 Dice Agricultural Mechanization, 1 dice Aquaponics and 3 Dice Ranching Domes to earn PS and show to all that we are working on the issue and hold off.demands

The Military has 8 Dice and should be sufficient at least one Quarter without any Free Dice.
 
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Crazycryodude said:
Well, as written at least the option includes backchannels to influential political parties and private businesses as well as other branches of the government. Other government employees are fine but I really don't like giving back room favoritism to select political parties or cooperatives. Especially because it won't be ALL political parties and cooperatives, just those with enough influence and ideological alignment to win Treasury favor.
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Hmm. Reread it, yeah, I'll change.
My issue is that eliminate outside influence is explicitly a temporary fix to a permanent problem. Are we just gonna have to keep doing it?
 
Karugus said:
We were never going to use terror drones like Buzzers in significant capacity, especially in close tight quarters where buzzers (should) thrive, they'd run into a bunch of flamethrowers.
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As is I understand not using them, but we make a lot of use of drone tech and ablative armour, both of which buzzer tech could provide breakthroughs on.
 
MightbeaMimic said:
Hmm. Reread it, yeah, I'll change.
My issue is that eliminate outside influence is explicitly a temporary fix to a permanent problem. Are we just gonna have to keep doing it?
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Given that the problem is "people* keep trying to infiltrate the department", running more frequent security sweeps is likely to help.

*people who aren't NOD, but still are not cleared to have information they are getting.
 
There is a reason why the Granger years are considered to be a period in which the Treasury was very clean and free of infiltrators, and that reason is that basically the only thing we did with Granger in Bureaucracy was sweep the Treasury every couple of years.
 
[X] Expand Official Backchannels

If you facilitate it, you can regulate it. Same as drugs and the sex industry, which historically have fewer associated social issues when the government gets a say.
 
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