So not one but two or more fox sisters. I want to write an omake just to contribute to the theft. Still, can you guys imagine our clan if we succeed and manage to adopt Su ling along with her sisters? Usually, a cultivator when becoming a noble would have been highly vulnerable. We can potentially have 6 or 7 greens from the very start of our clan. Don't want to count our chickens before they hatch, but that prospect really excites me.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
- Location
- United States
Traditional Ling Family acquisition as set forth by their Matriarch:
I think it's worth noting that after this, probably if we steal the child (which, duh) and definitely if we fail the dice, Su Ling's mother will know she exists. Like, she might not even have noticed that Su Ling didn't die if the Sacrifices usually die to the elements and only get eaten spiritually. But even if that isn't the case then this monster would know Su Ling is out there, has grown strong, and is hunting her. The trap layer might just start to preparing a trap for her daughter, or begin trying to find information about her right back. This plot might just be going into a higher gear, the hunter and the hunted in a deadly game of ambush. I do hope we get some chance to figure out the missed lore from last vote too, in a different way at a later date of course, since that seems integral to who and what the monster is.
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DeusExBritannia
Red-White-Black-White
- Location
- Texas
I will also give my single omake point to save this poor amalgam of child ghosts. Sadly, I think they will just kind of disperse on dream, so no adoption. Maybe they can be reborn as some kind of dream spirit?
And, wow, this was intense. I'm so glad we chose this instead of hearing the minutae of the Hui shittiness and the Diao role in it.
This really changes the impression I had on Su Ling's mother. She isn't just some random 4th grade spirit hunting humans to eat them or just for the pleasure of murdering. She isn't even "taking revenge" because their ancestors broke some pack with the fox spirits.
No, for who knows how long, she has been kidnapping men in order to have half blooded child with them. Then she bribes the people so they raise her children as sacrifices. The people hate and fear her, and so they abuse the kids because they know she doesn't care for them. Finally, the people give the kids back and she eats them in order to become stronger.
That's... That's horrifying.
Su Ling was really lucky that her grandmother, the only herbolist in the village, adopted her, and kept her safe from the villagers. And that the Ministry guy found her.
Who knows how many kids suffered the same fate before her.
I'm also curious about Su Ling's mother's reaction to all of this. Did she even notice Su Ling wasn't sacrificed? Does she care enough to try something? Or is she gonna just be on the lookout from now on?
This is one of the plot lines I'm most invested on in this quest. I can't wait to see howit continues and I'm totally voting for it as soon as we get the chance.
And, wow, this was intense. I'm so glad we chose this instead of hearing the minutae of the Hui shittiness and the Diao role in it.
This really changes the impression I had on Su Ling's mother. She isn't just some random 4th grade spirit hunting humans to eat them or just for the pleasure of murdering. She isn't even "taking revenge" because their ancestors broke some pack with the fox spirits.
No, for who knows how long, she has been kidnapping men in order to have half blooded child with them. Then she bribes the people so they raise her children as sacrifices. The people hate and fear her, and so they abuse the kids because they know she doesn't care for them. Finally, the people give the kids back and she eats them in order to become stronger.
That's... That's horrifying.
Su Ling was really lucky that her grandmother, the only herbolist in the village, adopted her, and kept her safe from the villagers. And that the Ministry guy found her.
Who knows how many kids suffered the same fate before her.
I'm also curious about Su Ling's mother's reaction to all of this. Did she even notice Su Ling wasn't sacrificed? Does she care enough to try something? Or is she gonna just be on the lookout from now on?
This is one of the plot lines I'm most invested on in this quest. I can't wait to see howit continues and I'm totally voting for it as soon as we get the chance.
Fox Mom had a contract back in the days that got broken at some point in the past (from the sound of last chapter, sometime during the Hui era).
Apparently, she is still 'taking what she is owed' as in she kills and eats people.
What she 'gives back' are foxkin children.
now for context, there is already an anti-spiritkin bias present. Add to that that said foxkin children are the result of the fox spirit 'hunting' (as in killing) people from the local villages, the foxkin children would be hated by said villagers. and unlike the fox spirit, the children are weak enough that mortals can hurt them.
if you re-read the description of the different faces the ghost shows you will notice it describes how they died ... and from that we can see that they died either by being killed by the villagers (is monster a word for human?) or by being left to die (mention of frostbite).
this killing/neglect seems to count as rejection of the 'gifts' of the fox-spirit and as she seems to be shaped by the betrayls of the old contract, this seems to work as an empowering ritual for fox mom. So each time one of her foxkin children dies like that, she gets stronger for it.
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wonder if the MOI recruiter got in trouble with foxbitch for snagging "the latest sacrifice".
Mother Nyx
Mother of Elpis
- Location
- The Kei Klub
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[ ] Grab the ghost-child-whatever, grab the young spirit and run (50% success, injury to party based on degree of failure. Additional benefits for Su Ling on success.)
Su Ling Not!Jack little sister get.
Su Ling Not!Jack little sister get.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
Sounds way too high profile for her. One way to get attemtion on yourself along with a squad of high level cultivators is by attacking the Ministry.
She likely really wants to avoid ending up on their radar. She's probably an indigo from the hints given to us by ghost kid, but if she actually got the MoI to take real notice of her she'd be fucked. Infact getting the MoI to actually pay attention to her is a possible way of dealing with her according to yrs instead of killing her normally.
- Location
- UK
Fucking hell it's a horde of ghost children superimposed into one little sister bargain bucket.
We never stood a chance. Never before has the hovering spectre of GM tyranny been so great.
Shenhua grant me strength.
We never stood a chance. Never before has the hovering spectre of GM tyranny been so great.
Shenhua grant me strength.
- Location
- Canada
There is a presumption of intent here that is unclear
Su Ling's mother is a remnant from the broken pacts between spirits and men, probably a decendant of those spirits rather than an immediate member of the spirits in question
And in absence of those pacts she prowls from city to city "taking what she is owed" (the life of the men she mates with) and leaves them gifts, which includes the children she bore, but then the villagers give them back and she grows stronger through that act of sacrifice
The thing is, I don't think there's any actual formal cult, or deliberate intention to sacrifice the kids to her
This isn't some Yamata no Orochi scenario where they're placating the beast with maidens
Consider how many of these kids died
Death from exposure in winter, death from being beaten and burned, death from being beaten
These kids were not raised and then ritualistically given back to Mother, they were rejected, scorned and died young, well before ever meeting her
Consider how Su Ling was taken in by a kind old lady, and Mother never came back for her, she didn't raze the settlement looking for her sacrifice, she didn't hunt Su Ling down expecting to claim what she was owed
As Xisheng puts it Mother gives them the "prettiest gifts", but then the people "give them back" to her by rejecting them
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Ling Qi: "Su Ling, I am stealing the amalgamation of your little brothers and sisters."
Su Ling: "Ling Qi, no."
Ling Qi: "I was not asking your permission, I was merely informing you about the future."
Su Ling: "Ling Qi, no."
Ling Qi: "I was not asking your permission, I was merely informing you about the future."
- Location
- Dreary ol' London Town
I finally caught up. Granted, I only read through the main threadmarks, but now I'm up to date!
[X] Grab the ghost-child-whatever, grab the young spirit and run (50% success, injury to party based on degree of failure. Additional benefits for Su Ling on success.)
There really is no other choice.
Now, I may have missed it if there was a convo in previous quest or earlier in current thread, but is Cai Shenhua guaranteed villain? I know she's based on Ragyo from KillLaKill but does she do the same...ya know? I really want to like Shenhua but I don't wanna get my hopes up
[X] Grab the ghost-child-whatever, grab the young spirit and run (50% success, injury to party based on degree of failure. Additional benefits for Su Ling on success.)
There really is no other choice.
Now, I may have missed it if there was a convo in previous quest or earlier in current thread, but is Cai Shenhua guaranteed villain? I know she's based on Ragyo from KillLaKill but does she do the same...ya know? I really want to like Shenhua but I don't wanna get my hopes up
- Location
- UK
On Shenhua not being a guaranteed villain, well...
I wouldn't get your hopes up
Though considering her Way and words here, you could argue that since opposing her is what she wants us to do, if you squint you could view it as being just... really enthusiastic frenemies?
And if not, villains you like are the best sort anyway.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Kinda wanna vote to run because I feel shamed into saving this (sorta) kid but the possibility of additional benefits for Su Ling...
Interesting update though. Kid was much more interesting than I expected. Curious about the history but the current plans for Su Ling and her siblings is definitely something we needed to learn about. Also Xisheng makes me think of the Xisheng in Ryuugi's Worm/Xianxia story so that's cute.
Interesting update though. Kid was much more interesting than I expected. Curious about the history but the current plans for Su Ling and her siblings is definitely something we needed to learn about. Also Xisheng makes me think of the Xisheng in Ryuugi's Worm/Xianxia story so that's cute.
- Pronouns
- They/It
[x] Run Immediately, flee before the monster Su Ling calls mother is fully roused (100% success. Base rewards for action)
- Location
- PA
...So my read is that Su Ling's Mother is the literal traumatic flashback of what it was like for the fox spirits of old to be betrayed and kicked out by the Hui's shenanigans.
This, naturally suggests in one way or another they want Su Ling to basically be a figurehead for 'Emerald Sea Weilu traditions: Fox version', possibly slapping any and all fragments of the old fox lore on her, or alternatively, using her as a focal point to 'revive' the traditions, but themed around her as something of a pseudo-white Ancestor, if you will.
Like...Su Ling's got a strong seer game right? So maybe they frame it as the foxes of old were diviners/oracles.
Or if she suddenly goes ham on being a blacksmith, they'll make cute little foxsmith dollies.
Now, if we had dug deeper, we might have gotten a clearer view from the fox's perspective.
By chasing the kids though, we see more of the victims of the fallout, which kind of seems more like Ling Qi's thing though...
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Don't feel like waiting to post again in thread sooo...
[X] Grab the ghost-child-whatever, grab the young spirit and run (50% success, injury to party based on degree of failure. Additional benefits for Su Ling on success.)
Blood moon reminder or no, stealing is what Ling Qi does. Stealing for Family?
WELL NOW!
Let's throw that kid in the backseat and get ready to jump a river boys!
This, naturally suggests in one way or another they want Su Ling to basically be a figurehead for 'Emerald Sea Weilu traditions: Fox version', possibly slapping any and all fragments of the old fox lore on her, or alternatively, using her as a focal point to 'revive' the traditions, but themed around her as something of a pseudo-white Ancestor, if you will.
Like...Su Ling's got a strong seer game right? So maybe they frame it as the foxes of old were diviners/oracles.
Or if she suddenly goes ham on being a blacksmith, they'll make cute little foxsmith dollies.
Now, if we had dug deeper, we might have gotten a clearer view from the fox's perspective.
By chasing the kids though, we see more of the victims of the fallout, which kind of seems more like Ling Qi's thing though...
...
Don't feel like waiting to post again in thread sooo...
[X] Grab the ghost-child-whatever, grab the young spirit and run (50% success, injury to party based on degree of failure. Additional benefits for Su Ling on success.)
Blood moon reminder or no, stealing is what Ling Qi does. Stealing for Family?
WELL NOW!
Let's throw that kid in the backseat and get ready to jump a river boys!
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[X] Grab the ghost-child-whatever, grab the young spirit and run (50% success, injury to party based on degree of failure. Additional benefits for Su Ling on success.)
- Location
- Germany
Missing a space after "kid"
Since when do these three own a mine?
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[X] Grab the ghost-child-whatever, grab the young spirit and run (50% success, injury to party based on degree of failure. Additional benefits for Su Ling on success.)