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Flipside is more dice now means more flexibility on later turns in case something pops up and the chance we can shave some dice off later since we know the progression left (so if we roll high early we can shave dice off at the end)

Also 2 dice on RWS gives a solid chance for it to finish and get that bit of tech deployed into the field to help deal with NOD as opposed to waiting additional turns.
 
[X]Plan Build Big Spaceship+ Caffeine
[X] Plan I'll go all in on the stabilizers next quarter (within reason)

Monsters the lot of you denying people their caffeine fix so as to focus on useful spider cotten. JK :tongue:
 
Hrm... Not keen overly on existing plans.
Attempting to put more than 8 dice on the Stabilizer when we don't have enough fusion dice is unnecessary. The project should complete with 8 dice per turn for 3 turns. If it falls behind, then there are more fusion dice in later turns to catch up with. Likelihood of getting really good rolls and completing in two turns is negligible.
Would prefer to move one die from Stabilizer onto Mecca/Jeddah as that would give it a substantial chance of completing this turn.
 
Derpmind said:
On using 8 or 9 dice this turn on the Tiberium Stabilizer, keep in mind most plans are also using a die on Security Reviews. Next turn we could easily put 10 dice into the project, and 10 more dice the turn after. 8 +10 +10 =28 dice total, when 26 dice is enough for a 95% completion chance. So I don't think the difference between 8 or 9 dice this turn is that drastic, as long as we follow it up with 9-10 dice next turn.
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However, the more dice are relied on at the end of the 3 turn plan, the more uncertainty there would be for for just how much the dice results can be relied on. Hence my continued arguments for using more dice in the beginning than later if completion of the Stabilizer is to be prioritized over other concerns at this point.

Because the main point people should consider for choosing 8 over 9 dices in Stabilizer is whether or not Space projects that require Fusion absolutely still needs to be squeezed in for this turn, even when considering the sheer importance of finishing the Stabilizer before the end of this 4-year plan. I think they can wait for one more turn to use more Fusion dice, because much benefits of of space projects are not needed immediately and are instead meant for the far future. So slightly shifting resources from them for a small and temporary amount of time is only logical to consider for now for more assured and safer progress control on completion of the Stabilizer, which is wanted by pretty much Everyone at this point.
 
[X] Plan Steady Balance
[X] Plan Steady Balance + Pathfinder

I did say I have a slight preference for 9 stabilizer dice over 8, so I'll throw my votes at those. Otherwise I'd just end up approval voting for every leading plan right now and not change the vote at all so I narrowed it down, this isn't an indictment of Stabilize! Stabilize! or Optimal Fusion I'd be fine with those winning too.
 
[X] Plan Optimal Fusion and Pathfinder
[X] Plan Steady Balance + Pathfinder
 
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Ithillid said:
I did too. But I also reached a point where the discord was erupting into literal daily arguments about the topic, and every time it got brought up here the thread got heated, leading to a threadlock at one point, and I am not ready to deal with it any more.
It was one of the key things that I had hoped to do in the quest, but, frankly, it was not working, at all.
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Sorry it got like that. Hope the thread is still fun otherwise though.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Derpmind on Sep 10, 2021 at 10:14 PM, finished with 118 posts and 39 votes.
  • [X] Plan Steady Balance
    -[X] Infrastructure 5/5 dice 115R
    --[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 35/600 15R (1/8.5 median chance)
    --[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 200/640 1 Tib 4 Infra dice 100R 12%
    -[X] Heavy Industry 5/5 dice 75R
    --[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 4) 628/1200 5 dice 75R (5/8 median chance)
    -[X] Light and Chemical Industry 4/4 dice 60R
    --[X] Chemical Fertilizer Plants 0/200 2 dice 30R 11%
    --[X] Pharmaceutical Synthesis Centers 0/250 2 dice 30R (2/3.5 median chance)
    -[X] Agriculture 3/3 dice 40R
    --[X] Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 4) 44/160 2 dice 20R 76%
    --[X] Spider Cotton Development 0/40 1 die 20R 91%
    -[X] Tiberium 5/5 +6 free dice 190R
    --[X] Security Review 1 die
    --[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City 1 die
    --[X] Tiberium Stabilizers 0/2000 9 dice (8 fusion) 190R (9/23.5 median chance)
    -[X] Orbital Industry 3/3 dice 50R
    --[X] Orbital Cleanup (Stage 5) 42/90 2 dice 30R 99% (58% Stage 5+6)
    --[X] Lunar Regolith Harvesting (Phase 1) 321/350 1 die (Fusion) 20R 100%
    -[X] Services 4/4 dice 35R
    --[X] Expand Medical Schools 0/300 3 dice 30R 20%
    --[X] Indoor park programs 0/150 1 die 5R (1/2 median chance)
    -[X] Military 5/5 dice 70R
    --[X] Remote Weapons System Deployment Predator 225/350 2 dice 20R 69%
    --[X] Universal Rocket Launch System Deployment (Phase 1) 235/300 2 dice 30R 98%
    --[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Hampton Roads) 0/180 1 die 20R (1/3 median chance)
    -[X] Bureaucracy 2/2 dice
    --[X] Security Review Tiberium DC55 2 dice 99%
    [X] Plan Steady Balance + Pathfinder
    -[X] Infrastructure 5/5 dice 115R
    --[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 35/600 15R (1/8.5 median chance)
    --[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 200/640 1 Tib 4 Infra dice 100R 12%
    -[X] Heavy Industry 5/5 dice 75R
    --[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 4) 628/1200 5 dice 75R (5/8 median chance)
    -[X] Light and Chemical Industry 2/4 dice 30R
    --[X] Chemical Fertilizer Plants 0/200 2 dice 30R 11%
    -[X] Agriculture 3/3 dice 40R
    --[X] Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 4) 44/160 2 dice 20R 76%
    --[X] Spider Cotton Development 0/40 1 die 20R 91%
    -[X] Tiberium 5/5 +6 free dice 190R
    --[X] Security Review 1 die
    --[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City 1 die
    --[X] Tiberium Stabilizers 0/2000 9 dice (8 fusion) 190R (9/23.5 median chance)
    -[X] Orbital Industry 3/3 dice 80R
    --[X] GDIS Pathfinder 0/300 2 dice 60R (2/4.5 median chance)
    --[X] Lunar Regolith Harvesting (Phase 1) 321/350 1 die (Fusion) 20R 100%
    -[X] Services 4/4 dice 35R
    --[X] Expand Medical Schools 0/300 3 dice 30R 20%
    --[X] Indoor park programs 0/150 1 die 5R (1/2 median chance)
    -[X] Military 5/5 dice 70R
    --[X] Remote Weapons System Deployment Predator 225/350 2 dice 20R 69%
    --[X] Universal Rocket Launch System Deployment (Phase 1) 235/300 2 dice 30R 98%
    --[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards (Hampton Roads) 0/180 1 die 20R (1/3 median chance)
    -[X] Bureaucracy 2/2 dice
    --[X] Security Review Tiberium DC55 2 dice 99%
    [X] Plan Stabilize! Stabilize!
    -[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2), 1 die (15 Resources)
    -[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City(Phase 3), 4 dice (80 Resources)
    -[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 4), 5 dice (75 Resources)
    -[X] Chemical Fertilizer Plants, 2 dice (30 Resources)
    -[X] Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 4), 2 dice (20 Resources)
    -[X] Spider Cotton Development, 1 die (20 Resources)
    -[X] Tiberium Stabilizer Deployment, 8 dice (6 Fusion) (180 Resources)
    -[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City(Phase 3), 1 die(20 Resources)
    -[X] Security Review
    -[X] Orbital Cleanup(Stage 5), 2 dice (30 Resources)
    -[X] Lunar Regolith Harvesting (Phase 1), 1 die (1 Fusion) (20 Resources)
    -[X] Expand Medical Schools, 4 dice (40 Resources)
    -[X] ASAT Defense System(Phase 3), 2 dice (2 Fusion) (40 Resources)
    -[X] Remote Weapons System Deployment Predator, 1 die (10 Resources)
    -[X] Universal Rocket Launch System Deployment (Phase 1), 2 dice (30 Resources)
    -[X] Tactical Plasma Weapon Development, 1 die (30 Resources)
    -[X] Security Review (Tiberium), 2 dice
    [X] Plan Optimal Fusion and Pathfinder
    -[X] Infrastructure 5/5 dice 115R
    --[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 35/600 1 Dice 15R (1/8.5 median chance)
    --[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 200/640 1 Tib 4 Infra dice 100R 12%
    -[X] Heavy Industry 5/5 dice 75R
    --[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 4) 628/1200 5 dice 75R (5/8 median chance)
    -[X] Light and Chemical Industry 4/4 dice 60R
    --[X] Chemical Fertilizer Plants 0/200 2 dice 30R 11%
    --[X] Pharmaceutical Synthesis Centers 0/250 2 dice 30R (2/3.5 median chance)
    -[X] Agriculture 3/3 dice 40R
    --[X] Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 4) 44/160 2 dice 20R 76%
    --[X] Spider Cotton Development 0/40 1 die 20R 91%
    -[X] Tiberium 5/5 +5 free dice 160R
    --[X] Security Review 1 die
    --[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City 1 die
    --[X] Tiberium Stabilizers 0/2000 8 dice (8 fusion) 160R (8/23.5 median chance)
    -[X] Orbital Industry 3/3 dice 80R
    --[X] GDIS Pathfinder 0/300 2 dice 60R (2/4.5 median chance)
    --[X] Lunar Regolith Harvesting (Phase 1) 321/350 1 die (Fusion) 20R 100%
    -[X] Services 4/4 dice 40R
    --[X] Expand Medical Schools 0/300 4 dice 40R 73%
    -[X] Military 5/5 +1 free dice 70R
    --[X] Remote Weapons System Deployment Predator 225/350 2 dice 20R 69%
    --[X] Universal Rocket Launch System Deployment (Phase 1) 235/300 2 dice 30R 98%
    --[X] Ablat Plating Deployment (Stage 4) 45/200 2 dice 20R 42%
    -[X] Bureaucracy 2/2 dice
    --[X] Security Review Tiberium DC55 2 dice 99%
    [X]Plan Build Big Spaceship+ Caffeine
    -[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 1 die 15 R
    -[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 4 dice 80R
    -[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator Stage 4 5 dice 75 R
    -[X] Chemical Fertilizer Plants: 2 dice 30 R
    -[X] Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 4): 2 dice, 20 R
    -[X] Wadmalaw Kudzu Development: 1 die, 20 R
    -[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 1 die, 20R
    -[X] Tiberium Stabilizers: 8 dice, 160 R
    -[X]GDIS Pathfinder 2 dice 60 R
    -[X]Orbital Cleanup 1 die, 15R
    -[X]Lunar Regolith Harvesting, 1 die 30R
    -[X]Advanced Prosthetics Development 1 die, 15R
    -[X]Expand Medical Schools 1 die 10 R
    -[X]Indoor Parks Programs 2 dice 10 R
    -[X]ASAT Defense System (Phase 3) 1 die, 20 R
    -[X]RWS Predator 2 dice 20 R
    -[X]URLS 2 dice 30 R
    -[X]Security Review Military 2 dice
    [X] Plan I'll go all in on the stabilizers next quarter (within reason)
    -[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 1 die 15R 0%
    -[X] Rail Network Construction Campaigns (Phase 1) 2 dice 30R 32%
    -[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 1 Tiberium die + 2 dice 60R 0%
    -[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 4) 5 dice + 1 free dice 90R 3%
    -[X] Chemical Fertilizer Plants 3 dice 45R 59%
    -[X] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (phase 1) 1 die 20R 51%
    -[X] Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 4) 1 die 10R 15%
    -[X] Spider Cotton Development 1 die 20R 91%
    -[X] Wadmalaw Kudzu Development 1 die 20R 91%
    -[X] Tiberium Stabilizers 3 fusion dice + 1 free fusion die 80R 0%
    -[X] Orbital Cleanup (Stage 5) 2 fusion dice 20R 83%
    -[X] Lunar Regolith Harvesting (Phase 1) 1 fusion die 20R 100%
    -[X] Advanced Prosthetics Development 1 die 15R 100%
    -[X] Expand Medical Schools 3 dice 30R 0%
    -[X] ASAT Defense System (Phase 3) 2 fusion dice 40R 11%
    -[X] Remote Weapons System Deployment Predator 2 dice 20R 69%
    -[X] Universal Rocket Launch System Deployment (Phase 1) 1 die + 2 free dice 45R 99.9996%
    -[X] Governor Class Cruiser Shipyards
    --[X] Hampton Roads 1 free die 20R 0%
    -[X] Havoc Scout Mech Development 1 free die 10R 100%
    -[X] Security Reviews (Tiberium) 1 Tiberium die + 2 dice 99%
    [X]Plan Build Big Spaceship+ SPIDERS
    -[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 1 die 15 R
    -[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 4 dice 80R
    -[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator Stage 4 5 dice 75 R
    -[X] Chemical Fertilizer Plants: 2 dice 30 R
    -[X] Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 4): 2 dice, 20 R
    -[X] Spider Cotton Development: 1 die, 20 R
    -[X] Mecca/Jeddah Planned City (Phase 3) 1 die, 20R
    -[X] Tiberium Stabilizers: 8 dice, 160 R
    -[X]GDIS Pathfinder 2 dice 60 R
    -[X]Orbital Cleanup 1 die, 15R
    -[X]Lunar Regolith Harvesting, 1 die 30R
    -[X]Advanced Prosthetics Development 1 die, 15R
    -[X]Expand Medical Schools 1 die 10 R
    -[X]Indoor Parks Programs 2 dice 10 R
    -[X]ASAT Defense System (Phase 3) 1 die, 20 R
    -[X]RWS Predator 2 dice 20 R
    -[X]URLS 2 dice 30 R
    -[X]Security Review Military 2 dice
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