Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
 
Also, empowering the patron of prospectors is likely to be good for the locals.
 
Because 4th grade, and above operate on a barter system meaning you cannot put a price in green stones on it.

Also what you cannot put a price on is dangling a "You must by Cyan to use this properly" for Hanyi to work hard for growing as part of a yearly ritual, and the advertising from the local spirit being a very happy camper by getting Cyan grade stuff while being a third realm, which builds reputation with the locals as it effects them directly in a positive manner.

Oh, and given this a spirit involved in a yearly ritual relating to flooding the fact that the spirit literally cannot absorb it insures there aren't any direct consequences that increase the chances the spirit will randomly decide to flood the place, which is what can happen when you feed a spirit that probably generation of clergy have worked to make it an orderly spirit that is reliable power from a Moon cultivator i.e a celestial body associated with chaos.
Wild spirits cannot generally 'use' talismans, offerings get consumed or absorbed but this can take significant time, long lasting spirits aren't inclined to absorbing energy fields larger than their head equivalent.

Given that absorbing the talisman will take a significant amount of time I don't think we need to be worried about the spirit being more likely to cause flooding in the immediate to middle term. At worst it will become slightly more prone to flooding after a long period of time.

Can we please dump the idol? Now that Sixiang has had her fun I have absolutely no interest in anything to do with this trinket, and if we can't drop it down a volcano a river will do the trick. By the time it gets rediscovered in 500 years we'll be Prism cultivator who gives 0 fucks.


Also, empowering the patron of prospectors is likely to be good for the locals.
Possibly at the expense of the rest of the spiritual ecosystem.
 
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[X] Offer an item of value to a spirit who values mortal craft.
-[X] Offer the Hui Painter's Brush

Because the attention of a ministry makes it pretty decent odds we'll be on the hook for long-term consequences if/when the spirit causes unusual damage something the ministry should have yearly records on, which makes an artifact that cannot be eaten by the spirit in question useful to avoid long-term fallout.
 
[x] Offer one service, which must be within your current power, to be completed within a year and a day (Locks in a Quest from the Spirit.)

I had hoped we'd get to sing to him in private, heh. Oh well. Embarking on a quest is fine. I could be persuaded to vote to get rid of the Hui Brush, though I don't remember what it was, or what it did.
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)

The arguments for this were actually pretty persuasive, considering raw exp actually isn't the bottleneck in green anyways.
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
Can we please dump the idol? Now that Sixiang has had her fun I have absolutely no interest in anything to do with this trinket, and if we can't drop it down a volcano a river will do the trick. By the time it gets rediscovered in 500 years we'll be Prism cultivator who gives 0 fucks.
We voted to keep the idol, and theres yet to be anything that would change general opinion on that.

That and offering it to a spirit which is almost certainly going to be investigated would be a good way to be discovered. Dropping something in a river which explicitly spawns loot is the opposite of a way to hide it.
 
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[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
We voted to keep the idol, and theres yet to be anything that would change general opinion on that.

That and offering it to a spirit which is almost certainly going to be investigated would be a good way to be discovered. Dropping something in a river which explicitly spawns loot is the opposite of a way to hide it.
I mean if the thread mostly likes the gaudy thing there's nothing I can do about that, but I thought we mostly grabbed it as a favor to Sixiang for the dream walk.

Now that that's over I think it's a tacky, poorly written, timebomb. It just kind of offends me that we spent months in the Outer Sect tinkering with Cloud people/hill tribe constructs that are normally powered by human lifeblood, and even showed one off at the tournament, and that didn't result in any reputation damage that we've heard, but this random bit of loot we picked up is actually going hurt us.

And as other people have said, giving it to the river tells anyone who finds it later that we didn't actually care for it that much.
 
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For the spirit I am leaning for Ling to give up a sliver of her cultivation, as the dream idol is anchoring our gate to the liminal and the brush is a cyan item (things from 4th stage onwards being strategical resources).

I am iffy about quest from a spirit within a year. The last time a spirit tested us the whole expedition could have been wiped out, resulting in CRX receiving another dose of "Trauma Time".

I cannot think of anything in our possession made as a byproduct of the spirit and since the spirit hates disorder, I am afraid what we offer now might need to be repeated by other cultivators to make it orderly again. Therefore the gift should not be anything that is rare or too powerful that others cannot repeatedly gift.

[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
 
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I have a feeling we're going to get Causality concept advancement in around a year regardless of which action we now choose. It's a delicate ecosystem of deals and agreements, power and prestige. I don't think it matters much where this jab came from, because our response was to disrupt the status quo to ensure the march of progress.

I don't think Duchess Cai would disapprove of our choice, but also would let us handle the blowback ourselves. Introducing change in a system causes ripples, and we frankly don't really know how dire a -2 with Southern Clergy will end up being overall. Nor do we know exactly how any propitiation here will affect the spiritual ecosystem.

This event reinforces my gut feeling that there was a core Weilu philosophical tangle surrounding "The Selfishness of Existence". Guaranteeing the timeline in which Hanyi is successful and the event isn't disrupted will cause ripple effects which may injure/inconvenience others unintentionally. Ascetic living minimizes the odds of this occurring, while hedonistic living discards the consequences of unintended ripples as the natural course of living a selfish life.

Another way to visualize this series of rippling causality is as a web. You know. Like the shadowy Hui were known to weave and inhabit. Explains the paranoia. If your intel groups are focused on finding and pruning dangerous futures you'll only ever see dangerous futures right unto madness and self-fulfilling prophecy
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)

[X] Offer an item of value to a spirit who values mortal craft.
-[X] Offer the Dream Idol

That and offering it to a spirit which is almost certainly going to be investigated would be a good way to be discovered. Dropping something in a river which explicitly spawns loot is the opposite of a way to hide it.

Only if they can directly tie it back to us.
 
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I mean if the thread mostly likes the gaudy thing there's nothing I can do about that, but I thought we mostly grabbed it as a favor to Sixiang for the dream walk.

Now that that's over I think it's a tacky, poorly written, timebomb. It just kind of offends me that we spent months in the Outer Sect tinkering with Cloud people/hill tribe constructs that are normally powered by human lifeblood, and even showed one off at the tournament, and that didn't result in any reputation damage that we've heard, but this random bit of loot we picked up is actually going hurt us.

And as other people have said, giving it to the river tells anyone who finds it later that we didn't actually care for it that much.
This is because this is something done by a White cultivator, and you just do not mess or challenge them. Most of what they do is fuelled by their concept and seeing it challenged encourages them to put a target on you.
 
I mean if the thread mostly likes the gaudy thing there's nothing I can do about that, but I thought we mostly grabbed it as a favor to Sixiang for the dream walk.

Now that that's over I think it's a tacky, poorly written, timebomb. It just kind of offends me that we spent months in the Outer Sect tinkering with Cloud people/hill tribe constructs that are normally powered by human lifeblood, and even showed one off at the tournament, and that didn't result in any reputation damage that we've heard, but this random bit of loot we picked up is actually going hurt us.

And as other people have said, giving it to the river tells anyone who finds it later that we didn't actually care for it that much.
okay but a child poking dead bodies with a stick at the playground is very different from an adult retainer of the ducal heir exploring the mysteries of the Black Lotus mystery-cult that had a stranglehold over the province for a very long time and only very recently was purged by the extremely new (and small) Ducal clan.

Hilltribe/cloudtribe have weird barbarous practices but some small strength can be pulled from them as they're strangled out of existence by the might of the Empire.

Black Lotus was a major ruling force in Emerald Seas until very recently and despite the recent purges, the nightmares of them are still very real in the minds of The Emerald Seas. Especially given the ability of nightmares to actually affect the physical plane in YRS-verse.

There are many magnitudes of severity between some backwater doomed-to-die near-extinct culture and the prior ruling mystery-cult of Emerald Seas
 
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[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
Well this update left me more suspicious of the priestess.
I don't think she personally fucked up, but her quick suggestion to have us perform feels off, though i guess she may have just heard of our reputation.
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)

Seems kind of rude to give away the Dream Idol when we only just got it for Sixiang. And the brush is a very powerful item we can study later. And the quest is something we don't want to sacrifice the time for. So that leaves the power as the winner by default.
 
This is because this is something done by a White cultivator, and you just do not mess or challenge them. Most of what they do is fuelled by their concept and seeing it challenged encourages them to put a target on you.
Wait a White? What do any of them have to do with this?
okay but a child poking dead bodies with a stick at the playground is very different from an adult retainer of the ducal heir exploring the mysteries of the Black Lotus mystery-cult that had a stranglehold over the province for a very long time and only very recently was purged by the extremely new (and small) Ducal clan.

Hilltribe/cloudtribe have weird barbarous practices but some small strength can be pulled from them as they're strangled out of existence by the might of the Empire.

Black Lotus was a major ruling force in Emerald Seas until very recently and despite the recent purges, the nightmares of them are still very real in the minds of The Emerald Seas. Especially given the ability of nightmares to actually affect the physical plane in YRS-verse.

There are many magnitudes of severity between some backwater doomed-to-die near-extinct culture and the prior ruling mystery-cult of Emerald Seas
I'll take your word for it. Still want to dump the idol though.

The brush is an interesting symbol of our desire to build up our clan, our family for the distant future.
The quest is yet another demand on our very limited time.
And the exp is exp, I don't like seeing numbers go down I guess?

As long as we don't give up the brush or drag ourselves into another time commitment I can live with it.

Now that the river's failed I'll just need to wait for a volcano I guess.
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)

This is about two weeks of growth, right? Maybe a little less? I would prefer to see the idol's plot through and a Cyan talisman is worth more than two weeks of Green time. As for the quest, I'm not that interested in this spirit and we already have plenty on our plate.
 
[X] For the adulation lost, offer a sliver of your own power, once and done. (-100 XP from cultivation XP earned this turn, before multipliers)


I agree with some of the posters here who were worried about dilluting the narrative.
 
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