Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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- United States of America
And yet the Shishigui again ask for assistance and promise gifts
In light of the second request, it seems difficult to accept an argument where the Twelve Star Confederation accepted to help the Shishigui after the first request. Again, the Shishigui wouldn't push for an agreement of assistance, with enticement, if such an agreement has already been reached.
Reading into the words "we agree to an extent" that an agreement of assistance was reached seems to be way overshooting what the extent of the agreement is.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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- Lickwidget
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The starstone of course. Its what him and his faction need on a strategic level to properly muster.
Because he wanted to sweeten the pot and get a better deal? We already went over this.
There's degrees of assistance
Lend-lease versus actually fighting alongside you, for example
And a promise of assistance later versus assistance now is another such example. One more relevant.
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- Staring into the void
[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
[X] Plan XCOM door breach
[X] Plan XCOM door breach
EternalObserver
eYe Gaze baCk
- Location
- The Void
I'm not a fan the XCOM plan since it double-strikes the Shishigui, which yeah, we want to kill them, but it reduces the chances of the Bardbarian duel, since you know, Cyan artillery strike, high chance he gets ganked early
I wanna have a music duel with him the following updates
I wanna have a music duel with him the following updates
[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
- Location
- At the end of the world
[X] Plan XCOM door breach:
-[X][Guan Zhi] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][CRX] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][LQ] Weaken or eliminate the forces on the rim before empowerment can begin
I believe we should steal Starstone, but not as our first response. Because the one with stone would instantly become a target for all involved. LQ is really good but not enough to easily survive multiple high level attacks at once. I think we should eliminate shishigui, so that no one can escape underground, and thin enemy forces first and steal Starstone second, it's a secondary target after all, the first one is to survive.
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
-[X][Guan Zhi] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][CRX] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][LQ] Weaken or eliminate the forces on the rim before empowerment can begin
I believe we should steal Starstone, but not as our first response. Because the one with stone would instantly become a target for all involved. LQ is really good but not enough to easily survive multiple high level attacks at once. I think we should eliminate shishigui, so that no one can escape underground, and thin enemy forces first and steal Starstone second, it's a secondary target after all, the first one is to survive.
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
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- Staring into the void
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[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
-[X][Guan Zhi] The Twelve Stars confederation representatives
-[X][Cai Renxiang] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][Ling Qi] Securing the Starstone
Priority Bonus Objective has revealed itself. Saying that its' premature to prioritize -assumes- we will get a second chance. If we do, it *will not* be a shot that has less attention then now..
-[X][Guan Zhi] The Twelve Stars confederation representatives
-[X][Cai Renxiang] The Shishigui representatives
-[X][Ling Qi] Securing the Starstone
Priority Bonus Objective has revealed itself. Saying that its' premature to prioritize -assumes- we will get a second chance. If we do, it *will not* be a shot that has less attention then now..
...So then why would he abandon the representative that demonstrated the ability and willingness to help them secure those resources to die ignominiously while cackling as he rides off into the sunset?
Because connecting "He wants the starstones" to "Sudden yet inevitable betrayal" seems like a really huge stretch to me
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Except that we do not have any magic thieving skills that would clearly allow us to steal a giant qi disrupting rock. The best idea Ling Qi has is to try to use PLR to drag it through the dream. Will this work? Who knows! And that's before we even get to people trying to stop us.
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- United States of America
But the degrees of assistance hasn't been established. It can't be argued that degrees of assistance are being discussed when a basic level of assistance does not seem to have been agreed to.
This argument basically hinges on a reading that the statement "we agree to an extent" is an agreement of assistance. That reading seems untenable.
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
You give such examples, but I don't see a way to prove what level of assistance this is at. Mutual defense is very different from lend lease , which is very different from looking the other way and not interfering. Why do you believe that a mutual defense agreement had been reached?
[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
I'm pretty sure you'd have to look hard to find any such degree under that definition that doesnt include "not leaving you to die from a hostile force that I could help you overcome were I to lend my assistance literally right in front of me" as part of said assistance
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- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
I did not say she had magic thieving skills only that she had the best thieving skills out of the people on site.
[edit] Besides, that's probably not even true we, probably, do magic thieving skills:
Breeze in the Vault: C rank
(...) Greatly increases most stealth derivatives while active.
And sleight of hand is categorized as a stealth specialty.
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It doesnt matter what degree.
The likliehood of them being aligned means that they're not just gonna stand back and let us kill the Shishigui unanswered right in front of them
I dont get why I have to explain this
Its genuinely baffling to me
Black Noise
Curious
- Location
- About 1AU from Sol
I like all 3 of "tactics good", "epic rematch", "just shove the warpstone off into with your soul dream it'll be fine".
[X] Plan XCOM door breach
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
Probably in that order but I wouldn't mind seeing either happen.
[X] Plan XCOM door breach
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
[X] Plan Star Stealing Shenanigans
Probably in that order but I wouldn't mind seeing either happen.
[X] Plan Bishoujo Battle: Barbarian X Bard
I really have to protest this characterization
It's not even remotely tactics good, its "tactics, what even are they?"
But that doesn't matter if they can't actually do anything.
- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
Care to elaborate? Because you're not making much sense right now...