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- Third planet from the star named Sol
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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At least one, plausibly more. That being said, I doubt he's particularly focused on keeping them up to date at the moment given the he's going into a tournament that's a run off of our year's tournament.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I've been convinced. Do we know where Su Ling's from though and which Baron/Viscount's land her mother's in? Could be a point of interest/contention.
[X] Invite Su Ling to the training group. As the co-organizer, inviting a few close friends was allowed.
[X] Invite Su Ling to the training group. As the co-organizer, inviting a few close friends was allowed.
fictionfan
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- Tempe, AZ
Right now I think that the sect might try and use the war to bring more outer sect disciplines in. Use one disruption to deal with their other disruption.
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DangerKitty
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- lala land
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
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- North Wales
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- He/Him/His
[x] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
- Location
- United States
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
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- Buenos Aires, Argentina
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- He/his
You know, it just ocurred to me. The reason Wang wanted some kind of gathering like this was because his is a fairly recent count clan and thus they had few viscount level vassals and even relatively few baron level vassals, right? What are the odds of the trying to recruit Su Ling if we bring her since she is an unafiliated new baroness?
NaanContributor
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- Location
- Hawaii
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
- Location
- Florida
She doesn't want to think of the future just yet, she doesn't even like to talk about getting the promotion in the inner sect.
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
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- At the end of the world
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
Su Ling deserves her own scenes, not just collective training ones.
Su Ling deserves her own scenes, not just collective training ones.
This is a difficult vote for me. I'm fine with either outcome, but the presentation of the vote is at odds with my own motivations in approaching its resolution. If you just look at the question of inviting her or not and weigh the consequences for her on both paths, inviting her doesn't seem likely to do any harm or end up any worse than leaving her be, and potentially quite better, so it's the obvious choice. However, that's without looking at the situation she'd be invited to and considering how those things are affected, both directly and indirectly through limited narrative focus.
Here's the various established threads I can think of that are floating around in the Wang Chao training group as is:
-Fortification-oriented combat tactics tutoring from Wang Chao for Ling Qi and Zhengui
-Ling Qi making friends with Wang Chao as per Renxiang's directions
-Ling Qi helping Wang Chao establish a social network of his own, as befitting his social rank
-Cultivating MSS (default assumption: helping Wang Chao keep his foot out of his mouth)
-Alingge's interest in Zhengui's Beast Qi
-Wang Chao and Liang He's unclear but apparent confusion on each other's disposition towards Ling Qi
-Zhengui getting socialized/making friends
-Zhengui's frustrations broadly
-Miscellaneous other art cultivations(there's like 6 or 7 or something, I'd expect like 3-4 to get thrown into the training)
-An unknown number of other characters and activities that we voted on to help with point #3
So, like, it's just a complicated bundle of STUFF that's been getting more complicated since first approaching Wang Chao. First with broadening the scope of the training, then with Zhengui's Very Bad Day. I'm leery of introducing another character when their relationship with Ling Qi and their (lack of) social grounding would reasonably demand an elevated degree of focus.
It's not like there aren't interesting hooks involving Su Ling. Alingge's disposition towards spirits could lead to an interesting conversation with Su Ling's spirit-bloodedness, which could be good or bad, and her no-nonsense attitude probably would as well. Liang He is a polite guy and he's a better Sword-er than Su Ling while not being super advanced comparatively in raw cultivation, but he also has a quite modest/soldiery origin, which could mean friction with her spirit blood. Or not! Su Ling's blunt, prickly attitude would probably cause some tension with Wang Chao, at least initially, and that probably wouldn't do any harm, but it'd be interesting to read.
But the overarching concern isn't that there aren't good, interesting, productive hooks involving Su Ling. It's that there's already an overabundance of hooks tangled up together. I don't know that the narrative objectives of sorting out our shit with Zhengui or scoring brownie points with Wang Chao are served by including Su Ling at this juncture, and we're kind of obligated to those.
There is an argument that showing up with our own "second" lends legitimacy and gravitas to the gatherings, while fostering some spacing towards neutrality with Wang Chao that bolsters the legitimacy of his role as the nominal head of the effort. It's true too, it would have that effect. I'm just not sure Ling Qi and Su Ling are all-in on the commitment involved in projecting that image. It would be a... commitment and potentially painting a target on Su Ling's back that our detractors (who still do exist as a generic faceless body off-screen) are more willing to strike at more directly than our own.
Whoops, I forgot to vote
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
Here's the various established threads I can think of that are floating around in the Wang Chao training group as is:
-Fortification-oriented combat tactics tutoring from Wang Chao for Ling Qi and Zhengui
-Ling Qi making friends with Wang Chao as per Renxiang's directions
-Ling Qi helping Wang Chao establish a social network of his own, as befitting his social rank
-Cultivating MSS (default assumption: helping Wang Chao keep his foot out of his mouth)
-Alingge's interest in Zhengui's Beast Qi
-Wang Chao and Liang He's unclear but apparent confusion on each other's disposition towards Ling Qi
-Zhengui getting socialized/making friends
-Zhengui's frustrations broadly
-Miscellaneous other art cultivations(there's like 6 or 7 or something, I'd expect like 3-4 to get thrown into the training)
-An unknown number of other characters and activities that we voted on to help with point #3
So, like, it's just a complicated bundle of STUFF that's been getting more complicated since first approaching Wang Chao. First with broadening the scope of the training, then with Zhengui's Very Bad Day. I'm leery of introducing another character when their relationship with Ling Qi and their (lack of) social grounding would reasonably demand an elevated degree of focus.
It's not like there aren't interesting hooks involving Su Ling. Alingge's disposition towards spirits could lead to an interesting conversation with Su Ling's spirit-bloodedness, which could be good or bad, and her no-nonsense attitude probably would as well. Liang He is a polite guy and he's a better Sword-er than Su Ling while not being super advanced comparatively in raw cultivation, but he also has a quite modest/soldiery origin, which could mean friction with her spirit blood. Or not! Su Ling's blunt, prickly attitude would probably cause some tension with Wang Chao, at least initially, and that probably wouldn't do any harm, but it'd be interesting to read.
But the overarching concern isn't that there aren't good, interesting, productive hooks involving Su Ling. It's that there's already an overabundance of hooks tangled up together. I don't know that the narrative objectives of sorting out our shit with Zhengui or scoring brownie points with Wang Chao are served by including Su Ling at this juncture, and we're kind of obligated to those.
There is an argument that showing up with our own "second" lends legitimacy and gravitas to the gatherings, while fostering some spacing towards neutrality with Wang Chao that bolsters the legitimacy of his role as the nominal head of the effort. It's true too, it would have that effect. I'm just not sure Ling Qi and Su Ling are all-in on the commitment involved in projecting that image. It would be a... commitment and potentially painting a target on Su Ling's back that our detractors (who still do exist as a generic faceless body off-screen) are more willing to strike at more directly than our own.
Whoops, I forgot to vote
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
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[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
Yeah, I think this has definitely convinced me. There's too much stuff going on here and we don't want to muddy things.
[X] Hold off, Let Su Ling settle into the Inner Sect for longer before springing new social groups on her.
