Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
[X] Harmony of Dancing Winds, Arts research, (Yu Nuan, Ruan Shen, Sect archive)
 
[] Harmony of Dancing Winds, Arts research, (Yu Nuan, Ruan Shen, Sect archive)
Music hangout is neat, but I'm a bit concerned with the proximity to the art dive given we have fairly particular objectives there, and music could be a distraction from them. On the other hand, Harmony is basically "I can't believe it's not Wood" the art, so maybe not so bad.

[] Roaming Moon's Eye (Xuan Shi, Various Nobles, Cai Gathering)
Xuan Shi is cool and I feel bad for him if this is him being pressured into attending High Society by various forces. Poor guy :(. This might be really good after the Wang Chao hangout, since it's a good opportunity to make another social nod or two to the guy in a setting where he struggles. This type of setting is exactly why we're cultivating Moonless Saboteur's Smile... later. Heh.

[] Phantasmagoria of Lunar Revelry (Bai Meizhen, Sixiang, Silent Stones)

Good friend, good art, good site where only very good and not bad things at all happened. We'll get to see the gift Meizhen received from her girlfriend, most likely. Might even prompt some patented Meizhen Takes on the Bao Qian courtship, which should be entertaining and infuriating in equal measure when players accept her advice completely uncritically. This chunk seems well-suited to a pause and reflect scene, or at least doesn't seem obviously related to any of our current objectives, so I'd rate it as the lowest priority.

[X] Base Cultivation, Meridians (Wang Chao, Liang He, Alingge, Sect Training Ground)

We desperately need to get a grasp on Wang already. I'm voting for it now even though it's Wrong according to Some People.
 
[] Harmony of Dancing Winds, Arts research, (Yu Nuan, Ruan Shen, Sect archive)
Music hangout is neat, but I'm a bit concerned with the proximity to the art dive given we have fairly particular objectives there, and music could be a distraction from them. On the other hand, Harmony is basically "I can't believe it's not Wood" the art, so maybe not so bad.

[] Roaming Moon's Eye (Xuan Shi, Various Nobles, Cai Gathering)
Xuan Shi is cool and I feel bad for him if this is him being pressured into attending High Society by various forces. Poor guy :(. This might be really good after the Wang Chao hangout, since it's a good opportunity to make another social nod or two to the guy in a setting where he struggles. This type of setting is exactly why we're cultivating Moonless Saboteur's Smile... later. Heh.

[] Phantasmagoria of Lunar Revelry (Bai Meizhen, Sixiang, Silent Stones)
Good friend, good art, good site where only very good and not bad things at all happened. We'll get to see the gift Meizhen received from her girlfriend, most likely. Might even prompt some patented Meizhen Takes on the Bao Qian courtship, which should be entertaining and infuriating in equal measure when players accept her advice completely uncritically. This chunk seems well-suited to a pause and reflect scene, or at least doesn't seem obviously related to any of our current objectives, so I'd rate it as the lowest priority.

[X] Base Cultivation, Meridians (Wang Chao, Liang He, Alingge, Sect Training Ground)
We desperately need to get a grasp on Wang already. I'm voting for it now even though it's Wrong according to Some People.
Don't we need to do archive dive before meridians though?
 
[X] Harmony of Dancing Winds, Arts research, (Yu Nuan, Ruan Shen, Sect archive)
[X] Roaming Moon's Eye (Xuan Shi, Various Nobles, Cai Gathering)
 
We only actually need to choose which meridians we open after we pick our art. That doesn't mean we need to open the meridians first. Open meridians -> choose art -> choose meridians is perfectly possible within the realm of IMAGINATION. As with most things, the solution is just bullying @yrsillar.
More seriously, meridians should not be a distorting influence on this vote. Full stop. We already negotiated with yrsillar specifically to have flexibility in regards to the art/meridian situation.
I was joking about bullying, because he's already pre-emptively made the necessary concession on the subject; this would just be reminding him about that prior guarantee.

Having meridians influence the ordering would compromise that agreement, so it's not actually a concern.
 
[X] Harmony of Dancing Winds, Arts research, (Yu Nuan, Ruan Shen, Sect archive)
[X] Phantasmagoria of Lunar Revelry (Bai Meizhen, Sixiang, Silent Stones)
 
More seriously, meridians should not be a distorting influence on this vote. Full stop. We already negotiated with yrsillar specifically to have flexibility in regards to the art/meridian situation.
I was joking about bullying, because he's already pre-emptively made the necessary concession on the subject; this would just be reminding him about that prior guarantee.

Having meridians influence the ordering would compromise that agreement, so it's not actually a concern.
Even if we separate the "which meridians" vote for later, this is still a "choose order" vote with all options happening eventually, and I see no good reason to rush the riskiest social mission before mastering our social perception art, practicing with some other, more friendly nobles, or even having some downtime with close friends.
 
Even if we separate the "which meridians" vote for later, this is still a "choose order" vote with all options happening eventually, and I see no good reason to rush the riskiest social mission before mastering our social perception art, practicing with some other, more friendly nobles, or even having some downtime with close friends.
I don't care about that, I was addressing specifically the issue of whether meridians should be a major concern in our vote. I say no, because it's unlikely yrsillar intended for that concern, which he's already made guarantees on, influencing our choices here by allowing us to totally undermine ourselves.

If I was arguing in favour of Wang time with structural reasons, I'd point out that base cultivation is the single biggest chunk of our time, so it makes most time-keeping sense to establish that early in the turn, so it can plausibly take place over the course of the month. The kinds of activities involved seem to support that as well, while also serving as a foundation for behind-the-scenes comfort-building across the same time period

Edit: Wang, Archive, Party, PLR would be my preferred order in terms of overall flow, from our current vantage.
 
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It's hard to read between the lines but from what i could tell of other characters, they view Ling Qi as somewhat like Zequing. A distant and cold figure with beautiful songs in the shadows of moonlight. Makes me wonder how kuch of that was her choices/trauma and how kuch was Zequing's influence...
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Killer_Whale on Feb 17, 2020 at 9:32 PM, finished with 81 posts and 41 votes.
 
[x] Base Cultivation, Meridians (Wang Chao, Liang He, Alingge, Sect Training Ground)

Better base cultivation should make everything else easier. Also getting the meridians open would prevent the situation were we have trained an art but don't have the room to actually use it.
 
[X] Phantasmagoria of Lunar Revelry (Bai Meizhen, Sixiang, Silent Stones)
 
We only actually need to choose which meridians we open after we pick our art. That doesn't mean we need to open the meridians first. Open meridians -> choose art -> choose meridians is perfectly possible within the realm of IMAGINATION. As with most things, the solution is just bullying @yrsillar.

More seriously, meridians should not be a distorting influence on this vote. Full stop. We already negotiated with yrsillar specifically to have flexibility in regards to the art/meridian situation.
I was joking about bullying, because he's already pre-emptively made the necessary concession on the subject; this would just be reminding him about that prior guarantee.

Having meridians influence the ordering would compromise that agreement, so it's not actually a concern.

Honestly, I disagree with your reasoning. Whenever we open meridians, the specific desired meridian is what is opened. This is both how meridians have opened in this story when we see the info on the rolls, and it makes sense in-story to have specific meridians in mind when we are opening them. I don't think yrs would be reneging on his promise - he's given us the opportunity to know which meridians we wish to open before we open the meridians by giving us the choice to select the archive process before we open meridians. I think its fair for us to cooperate by selecting the option to explore the archive and know which meridians we want to open before we actually open our meridians.

That said, I wasn't there for the negotiation so I could be mischaracterizing it. It just doesn't make sense to me narratively not knowing which meridians we're opening while we're opening them..

[X] Harmony of Dancing Winds, Arts research, (Yu Nuan, Ruan Shen, Sect archive)

Additionally, I like the continuity of the music theme narratively.
 
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[X] Base Cultivation, Meridians (Wang Chao, Liang He, Alingge, Sect Training Ground)

It ain't gonna win but I wager building a base is always good and shouls usually be done first
 
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