Taking the Mickey: A Save Disney Quest
- Thread starter Slynnwen
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All I know about this is that Supaidaman (Japanese Spider-Man with a mech) inspired Sentai.
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[X] Plan: Muppets, Metroids, and Monorails Oh my! v1
Slynnwen
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- Fomalhaut B
Politics has imperceptibly shifted. You get a mechanics question or an unrevealed advisor bonus.
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Oh boy. This reminds me of a dead timeline on AH I once read about Nixon coming back from the political grave even more ruthless than ever.
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Here's a fun fact Dragon Ball (the original anime) got released in February 1986 but didn't get a English release until 1995
Slynnwen
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- Fomalhaut B
Vote time isn't just for the voters. It also lets me take a break and avoid burnout.
Also since some actions are shared between all plans either due to popularity or pigeonholing, it gives me a chance to work on them early. I've already rolled monorail, opening day, and the gf for example, since those actions essentially have to be taken.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
I'd quite like a link to that.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
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Ah, firing people for giving you bad news/facts. The sign of a classic, highly competent leader.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
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- Midwest, USA
[x] Plan: Muppets, Metroids, and Monorails Oh my! v1
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A mechanics question then, well more how it relates to Real World History. Using your mechanics system how/why did Disney America (Haymarket) fall apart. Was it reception issues? Crit fails during planning? Staff problems? Relationships? Headline event? What caused it Collapse mechanically speaking?
Slynnwen
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A crit-fail at planning during an already bad time for the company, while reception was below a -5. EuroDisney's continued failure, the crit-fail reducing operating seasons for the park, and a terrible public reception of the plans brought the park down.
Sir_Braazmiir
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[X] Plan: Muppets, Metroids, and Monorails Oh my! v1
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- SF Bay Area
So... you're saying I need to campaign a bit then?
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Park building stuff
Slynnwen
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Since it's extremely likely to come up this turn, a bit of an overview on revised park building mechanics:
Stage one: Park Overview planning. This is where you pick a location, name, size, and layout. Layout means picking whether the park is a solid whole, a hub with lands, a sort of mishmash like irl Hollywood Studios, or two halves, or something else.
Stage two: The park section is added to the turn sheet, which comes with +1 base action. You get a DC 10 per action for planning in each area. Every 5 successes, you choose either a new ride to add to the area, or to declare the area done. For example, if you got 12 successes one turn, you'd pick up to 2 rides to put in the area, or one ride and to declare the area done, or to just declare the area done.
Stage three: Once an area is done, you move to groundbreaking and construction, DC 10 per actions that require successes based on park size and number of areas for groundbreaking, and number of attractions for construction. Once every area is done with construction, you move to opening day, where reception is finalized and guests start arriving.
New resorts follow much the same formula, except you throw a hotel or two onto the mix. Ideally, this system means that you're only ever voting on one or two rides at a time, so that park building is less overwhelming than the Tomorrow's Tomorrowland overhaul was.
Park Sizes and Success requirements:
Small: 30 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. May have up to 4 areas, and 12 rides.
Medium: 60 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. May have up to 6 areas, and 24 rides.
Large: 120 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. May have up to 8 areas, and 40 rides.
Huge: 240 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. Unlimited number of areas and rides.
All rides add 5 total construction successes to the area's needed total, with a base 5 for shops, restaurants, and other venues.
Stage one: Park Overview planning. This is where you pick a location, name, size, and layout. Layout means picking whether the park is a solid whole, a hub with lands, a sort of mishmash like irl Hollywood Studios, or two halves, or something else.
Stage two: The park section is added to the turn sheet, which comes with +1 base action. You get a DC 10 per action for planning in each area. Every 5 successes, you choose either a new ride to add to the area, or to declare the area done. For example, if you got 12 successes one turn, you'd pick up to 2 rides to put in the area, or one ride and to declare the area done, or to just declare the area done.
Stage three: Once an area is done, you move to groundbreaking and construction, DC 10 per actions that require successes based on park size and number of areas for groundbreaking, and number of attractions for construction. Once every area is done with construction, you move to opening day, where reception is finalized and guests start arriving.
New resorts follow much the same formula, except you throw a hotel or two onto the mix. Ideally, this system means that you're only ever voting on one or two rides at a time, so that park building is less overwhelming than the Tomorrow's Tomorrowland overhaul was.
Park Sizes and Success requirements:
Small: 30 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. May have up to 4 areas, and 12 rides.
Medium: 60 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. May have up to 6 areas, and 24 rides.
Large: 120 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. May have up to 8 areas, and 40 rides.
Huge: 240 Total Groundbreaking successes needed, divided among areas. Unlimited number of areas and rides.
All rides add 5 total construction successes to the area's needed total, with a base 5 for shops, restaurants, and other venues.
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Looks good on paper, here's hoping it shakes out in practice.
Crazy7s1
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I've been thinking that if we have room for it next turn we should take an office politics action to bring Frank up to 50 so we can get a free office politics action each turn. If we had that we could make a concentrated effort on unlocking whichever character bonuses we thought were most valuable. It would also be a valuable way to help manage our
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So... has anyone given any thought to who we could pick up for a Sponsor for "If you had Wings"?
Since Eastern's gone under... or unable to renew... it's probably going to be an aerospace or airline company. It's likely it won't be Nintendo (Mostly because no one... NO ONE... sponsors more than 2 attractions), so... who are people thinking of for a sponsor?
TWA, Pan-Am, United, Delta?
Martin Marietta, Lockheed, Boeing, Rockwell, Raytheon, McDonnell Douglas?
Since Eastern's gone under... or unable to renew... it's probably going to be an aerospace or airline company. It's likely it won't be Nintendo (Mostly because no one... NO ONE... sponsors more than 2 attractions), so... who are people thinking of for a sponsor?
TWA, Pan-Am, United, Delta?
Martin Marietta, Lockheed, Boeing, Rockwell, Raytheon, McDonnell Douglas?
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Lockheed Martin would probably be best from a "looking to the future" point of view.
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Well... Time for Brainstorming Hollywood Studios. I had a vague idea that our Main Street would look like a Studio backlot of the 1950s with various logos of each park. We pass through a Universal Studios style Arch that says "Hollywood Studios to get the central icon of the park... maybe include a pair of water towers: the iconic WB water tower, and the Earfell Tower.
For the various sections of the park I definitely think we should do a Toontown in the style of Roger Rabbit (where 'Hey There Gorges', the Donald and Daffy Piano Restaurant, Mickey and Bugs meet and greets) occur, maybe even put in Mickey's House, or Scrooge's Money Bin (to hide a drop tower Money Bin ride or dark ride or interior minicoaster).
The other areas... I think we should divide by film genre: Action, Sci-fi, Mystery, and others. In Sci-fi we put in Star Tours, Alien Encounter, and Back to the Future, maybe see if Paramount comes to us begging for Trek's inclusion... Action... Indiana Jones spectacular, Kong, Superman... we should probably put this section of the park on an edge with expansion room...
Mystery maybe create a Scooby Doo Dark Ride? A restaurant called the Detectives Lounge where many famous detectives stop to have a drink before going off on their next caper (Animatronic Bogart waiting for a drink in a dispay or something, maybe a Sherlock Holmes Meet and greet where he plays the violin?), or an Arsene Lupin sneaking around the park.
Muppetvision and maybe their own land might be considered.
In terms of a Railroad... why not have a "Universal Studios" style tram system that tours the "Backlot" surrounding the park, showcasing various movie making dioramas or action presentations.
Include maybe a film museum technically outside the park and maybe a small multiplex (get AMC, Loews and what not to compete) for an old style nickelodeon 1930s theater, that runs continuously a bunch of old movies?
...Totally not trying to get us a planning bonus for Hollywood Studios... nah... <whistles innocently>
For the various sections of the park I definitely think we should do a Toontown in the style of Roger Rabbit (where 'Hey There Gorges', the Donald and Daffy Piano Restaurant, Mickey and Bugs meet and greets) occur, maybe even put in Mickey's House, or Scrooge's Money Bin (to hide a drop tower Money Bin ride or dark ride or interior minicoaster).
The other areas... I think we should divide by film genre: Action, Sci-fi, Mystery, and others. In Sci-fi we put in Star Tours, Alien Encounter, and Back to the Future, maybe see if Paramount comes to us begging for Trek's inclusion... Action... Indiana Jones spectacular, Kong, Superman... we should probably put this section of the park on an edge with expansion room...
Mystery maybe create a Scooby Doo Dark Ride? A restaurant called the Detectives Lounge where many famous detectives stop to have a drink before going off on their next caper (Animatronic Bogart waiting for a drink in a dispay or something, maybe a Sherlock Holmes Meet and greet where he plays the violin?), or an Arsene Lupin sneaking around the park.
Muppetvision and maybe their own land might be considered.
In terms of a Railroad... why not have a "Universal Studios" style tram system that tours the "Backlot" surrounding the park, showcasing various movie making dioramas or action presentations.
Include maybe a film museum technically outside the park and maybe a small multiplex (get AMC, Loews and what not to compete) for an old style nickelodeon 1930s theater, that runs continuously a bunch of old movies?
...Totally not trying to get us a planning bonus for Hollywood Studios... nah... <whistles innocently>
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Slynnwen
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I'll just note that some of this would require talking to Lucas and others again to grab the rights for Florida attractions. You're likely to get them, but it may cost you a chunk of change or a favor.
As far as layout goes, I've added a sizing guide to the park planning section, so you may want to take that into account when looking at the layout for the park.
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Great point. If I'm correct we can pull WB, Universal and our own properties. Any other IPs I'm forgetting?
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