The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
we cannot fight an exalted demon on our own
We have Areatha, who won against an Exalted before Transcendence, even if he was trying to corrupt her instead of killing. Jane and Jacob, to a lesser degree, especially when buffed by Areatha. And even Mineyev can contribute with his insane paragon trait. We can fight an Exalted, we just don't have good odds of winning. Not that asking Ancient One is a bad idea, if it's viable. Lin did just end a giant civil war his race fought, so he might be more inclined to listen than usual.
 
To me that sounds like "We don't need reactor safety when the technicians are wearing Radiation suits!" or "We don't need Radiation suits if our reactors are safe!". You want both or you're going to have a bad time. In either case people are seriously fucked. AT least with both we have a chance for survival.

EDIT: Quit underestimating our enemies! That's how they fuck us up! Seriously, Avernites may be arrogant, but they prefer to overestimate their enemies so that they don't get blindsided.
 
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To me that sounds like "We don't need reactor safety when the technicians are wearing Radiation suits!" or "We don't need Radiation suits if our reactors are safe!". You want both or you're going to have a bad time. In either case people are seriously fucked. AT least with both we have a chance for survival.

EDIT: Quit underestimating our enemies! That's how they fuck us up! Seriously, Avernites may be arrogant, but they prefer to overestimate their enemies so that they don't get blindsided.
Hey, I'm all for more safety, but saying that we can't fight an Exalted when Areatha is right here is just straight up wrong. We're not likely to win, but we can fight one and have a chance of victory.
 
We have Areatha, who won against an Exalted before Transcendence, even if he was trying to corrupt her instead of killing. Jane and Jacob, to a lesser degree, especially when buffed by Areatha. And even Mineyev can contribute with his insane paragon trait. We can fight an Exalted, we just don't have good odds of winning. Not that asking Ancient One is a bad idea, if it's viable. Lin did just end a giant civil war his race fought, so he might be more inclined to listen than usual.

Areatha is a survival-oriented build. she can survive an exalted, and she might stall it, but I don't think she can reliably kill it.
 
Areatha is a survival-oriented build. she can survive an exalted, and she might stall it, but I don't think she can reliably kill it.
No, she'd need another Transcendent in Combat or Power to be able to kill Exalteds with good odds. She still can fight and win against one now, even without our heroes contribution. Well, as long as it's not someone big from Khorne, those guys have a lot anti-psyker powers.
 
Congrats, you are using tidbits of info from a semi-canon omake. Unless Durin says otherwise, Areatha can not fight an Exalted, period. Thinking like that is how we nearly got Ridcully killed during the Red Skies, since some peeps here thought that mere Honoured were no threat to him. Obviously, that backfired spectacularly. So quit wanking people on our side, you will just look like an ass when they get ganked.
 
Congrats, you are using tidbits of info from a semi-canon omake. Unless Durin says otherwise, Areatha can not fight an Exalted, period. Thinking like that is how we nearly got Ridcully killed during the Red Skies, since some peeps here thought that mere Honoured were no threat to him. Obviously, that backfired spectacularly. So quit wanking people on our side, you will just look like an ass when they get ganked.
Are you going to just deny reality now? Her fighting that Exalted was not some minor tidbit, it's literally the thing she got her transcendence from, and we know from multiple statements that Transcendent fighters are the ones who have actual viable chances of winning against Exalteds. And here's a quote from Durin, for a good measure:
Areatha can beat Exalted but would be outmatched

Thinking like that is how we nearly got Ridcully killed during the Red Skies, since some peeps here thought that mere Honoured were no threat to him.
Also, literally no one thought like that, because first time we heard about Honored daemons it was "Three grand Legions lead by Honoreds appeared, one almost killed Ridcully". There wasn't even any time for us to disregard their threat, which we probably wouldn't do.
 
Congrats, you are using tidbits of info from a semi-canon omake. Unless Durin says otherwise, Areatha can not fight an Exalted, period. Thinking like that is how we nearly got Ridcully killed during the Red Skies, since some peeps here thought that mere Honoured were no threat to him. Obviously, that backfired spectacularly. So quit wanking people on our side, you will just look like an ass when they get ganked.
So are you asserting that 'we' decided to put Ridcully on lower protection because we believed he was at low risk?

:Citation Needed:
 
I'm really not sure how voting for Ridcully to be set at ultra high protection priority during the second incursion, literally the highest protection we could of set him at, was acting like he was under no threat, that's an interesting interpretation.
 
Munitorum
SLOT A (3 Years)
-Y3: Ration Pills
SLOT B (2 Years)
-Y4: Special Issue Impalers
These seem to be of very little benefit.

Arbites
SLOT A (5 Years)
Y1-Y5: Greater Psyker Hunting
Jane has noted that she should focus on counterintel while Lin lives, this seems wasted.

Ministorum
SLOT A (5 Years)
-Y1: The Nature of (Zahhak)
What benefits do we expect to gain from this? I would prefer something actionable rather than pieces of lore. Self, Webway, Psykers, Transcendence, there is a large number of possibly revolutionary subjects for Lin to research. The latter might well add a few % to his survival chance.
 
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would the second huge hive actually get us all that much in the short term? or is it just the upgrade that lets us get the things that get us the resources?
We are already doing the nature of curses. It has a 79 percent chance of passing before reroll.

I'll set a redo on curses if it fails.


These seem to be of very little benefit.

I think those were chosen due to low cost. Ask Shard and Nurgle.
 
Might be a bit of an assumption, but if there truly was an incursion on the way with possibly exalted daemons leading it then wouldn't the Planetmind be aware of that already? Shouldn't we see strange migration patterns, a sudden spike in populations and massive congregations of wildlife along with unknown seismic events as weapons get into place? That is literally their job after all and we've seen it use divination to stop a threat to the planet before it happened before (When that ork wanted to just planetbust Avernus)
 
I think I missed it but what was the Primarchs reaction to the fact that one of the Emperors Saints still lived if they found out about him?
 
Might be a bit of an assumption, but if there truly was an incursion on the way with possibly exalted daemons leading it then wouldn't the Planetmind be aware of that already? Shouldn't we see strange migration patterns, a sudden spike in populations and massive congregations of wildlife along with unknown seismic events as weapons get into place? That is literally their job after all and we've seen it use divination to stop a threat to the planet before it happened before (When that ork wanted to just planetbust Avernus)
Not necessarily. Due to how the warp works and Avernus having portals staright to the warp on the poles the Chaos God can just decide to invade and there's little to no preamble.
 
Ok diplomacy was changed we dropped the lizardmen trade and Added Asking the ancient one to guard Lin, and trolls to help with construction of hives.

The cheap military option were choosen because they are cheap but the Relic for thrones will get us 50 billion a year. So we will be fine by end of next turn.

Ok let's get some votes people.
 
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[color=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.2)]shieldSon mocks stupid ideas[color=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.2)]Today at 4:58 AM[/color][/B][/COLOR][/color][/B]
Ok, we need to do Investigate/Implement actions for Suspensors/Suspensor Webs. Being able to use a Heavy Impaler/Neutron Repeater as a line rifle is bullshit and I love it.



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also expensive, but a good idea for the lifeguard



[color=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.2)]shieldSon mocks stupid ideas[color=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.2)]Today at 5:08 AM[/color][/color]
I never denied that. It's just that as we never investigated them we have no idea the actual cost for suspensors and Suspensor Webs. For all I know, basic suspensors are about as costly as Trooper Armor.

Pft, this does mean that combining suspensor webs with Destroyer Armour results in some very bullshit loadouts. Already have Jotun Destroyers use a Heavy Gatling Impaler as a full two-handed weapon, a la Raven from Metal Gear or Berserker!Lancelot from Fate. Suspensor webs would mean they, in theory, could pull out Battlecannons or even use Knight weapons (obviously only the most Elite of Jotun Destroyers would do so). But that's just a theory. A Delicious Theory.



From the Discord, Embers-Plans channel. We really should investigate this, it opens up a lot of weapons options for us, and likely for the Varangian Guard as well. Combi-Neutron Repeaters as line rifles? (at least for their Veterans)

EDIT: I blame the Mandela Effect for my memory of our guard deployment concerning Ridcully. I am certain we only had it at 3 because of a mixture of him being too far south and not be combat specced enough for the Khornates to care, but apparently it was only a matter of poor Hero support for him.
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