Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
What? Why are you spending actions (and a Minor Favor) on three different influences? Lin counts as one, remember.
One of these will be unused, and the Rune is expensive.
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One of these will be unused, and the Rune is expensive.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. a couple of thousand
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- United states
[X] Plan Enshurgle T 132
We already traded the minor favor for Xenotech during the high council meeting. Not using it to get the true rune for Ridicully would be a waste.
We can combine multiple influences into one action. Ridicully with a true rune foci conts as one. Saint Lin with a artifact created by Vulkan counts as one and so on.
@Fanhunter696 i will change it to asking the Eldar and Kork to help with the peace talks.
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- Spain
Great, any chance of using Sound Out so we can get a double down here in Year 1?
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- Australia
From Codex: Imperial Knights, 8th Edition, page 16.
@Durin, is this supposed efficiency a real thing or is it just propaganda?
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Considering how inefficient Imperial Armies are this is not an achievement.
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- United states
@Nurgle think you should remove the asking the Eldar for a ritual thing. Durin already said that at most we are limited to just 3 warp/narrative elements and we are already using True Runes, Alkhestry with healing herbs and Lin synergizing with Vulkan to create the wise men ritual. At this point the Eldar ritual seems like it would just interfere. Might be better to ask them if they can use their divination to help us with our current stuff.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Durin has said the Eldar helping with designing the ritual doesnt count as a force.
Shard answered it but yeah designing the ritual should not interfere.
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
No, we asked if trading for the xenotech is an acceptable use of a minor favor. It is not spend yet as far as I'm aware.
No they can't. Only Aklhaestry can use Herbs and count as one because they would not be an influence, but ingredient. Lin with Vulcan Artifact counts as 2.
Edit: Rids with Rune would count as one as I understand it, but that's because he would not be doing anything but using the Rune, as it can't use itself. Lin will be doing the curse cleansing himself, and Vulcan Artifact would add to/mess with that and thus count as influence, not be the thing doing the cleansing powered by Lin.
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Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
I believe Durin said Lin as a whole counts as 1.
Lin with a Vulkan artifact counts as one since its Saint Lin and a created artifact by a Emperor Son.
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
OK, so this is my understanding of the "3 influences max" situation from reading this thread and Discord.
We have a maximum of three influences, for which "anything psykery" (not an exact quote) counts. Lin is one of those.
Corax using mundane surgery to close the wound is not an influence.
Alkahestrial potion (almost certainly antidote) is one influence, no matter what went into it.
As Durin OKed the three wise man ritual, Rids using the Rune counts as one. There is only one effect and influence, the Runes. He would just be powering and directing it.
That's it.
We have a maximum of three influences, for which "anything psykery" (not an exact quote) counts. Lin is one of those.
Corax using mundane surgery to close the wound is not an influence.
Alkahestrial potion (almost certainly antidote) is one influence, no matter what went into it.
As Durin OKed the three wise man ritual, Rids using the Rune counts as one. There is only one effect and influence, the Runes. He would just be powering and directing it.
That's it.
Do you have a quote? I don't remember seeing anything like this.
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It was on discord I think but we can get Saint Lin and Vulkan artifact as one force.
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- Spain
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
What were we doing there? The base being set up nearby was a Major Favor, right?
By the by, have the humans under the Krork Protectorate been given access to the Conclave's tech? I mean, the humans giving bigger tithes or whatever of materials and soldiers can only benefit the Krork. Probably an incredibly minor boost, and it's unlikely the Krork don't outdo all of that stuff (except on the petty resource-buff STCs, ironically, given the sheer number there) with their own tech, but getting more out of their clients without leaning on them for it can't hurt.
We can't use the Krork-tech because it's not human, and frankly I doubt we'd understand half of it, but the humans in their polity shouldn't have that problem with our stuff, and they might have some extra petty STCs, if nothing else.
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- Spain
We are asking both the Krork and the Eldar for help with the Peace Treaty, since both species fought alongside the Lizardmen in the War on Heaven.
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- Peterborough, NH, USA
Okay then.
Hey, @Durin have the humans in the Krork Protecorate been given access to Conclave tech and/or vice versa? If not, how much of a benefit would it be for them, and how much would any purely human tech they've developed be to us?
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- Earth
[X] Plan Enshurgle T 132
@Nurgle
Can we do the Peace Treaty next turn and do research now? So something like this:
Ministorum
SLOT A
Y1: The Nature of (Curses)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
Y5: Those in the Shadows
SLOT B
Y2: The Nature of (Self/Saint Lin)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
We don't know if the Give Peace a Try (Skinks) action is going to succeed or not, and waiting until next turn could potentially give him that paragon Diplomacy trait, and give people more time to put in that final +5 bonus omake. Also, Lin's research on Self and Curses (especially the latter) might lead to Telepathica research actions that we want to get done ASAP in case it can help Guilliman.
Currently, the Y1 DD is unused while Y2's is assigned to the Ministorum anyway, so it won't be too troublesome in terms of DD relegation. This also means both the research and peace treaty actions wrap up the turn they start, so there's less waiting to see if they succeeded or not.
In other thoughts, the Y3 DD is also unused. Can you switch around Ridcully's Y3 and Y4 GDs and put a DD on looking for infiltrators, since those are some pretty high-level operatives?
@Nurgle
Can we do the Peace Treaty next turn and do research now? So something like this:
Ministorum
SLOT A
Y1: The Nature of (Curses)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
Y5: Those in the Shadows
SLOT B
Y2: The Nature of (Self/Saint Lin)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 2
We don't know if the Give Peace a Try (Skinks) action is going to succeed or not, and waiting until next turn could potentially give him that paragon Diplomacy trait, and give people more time to put in that final +5 bonus omake. Also, Lin's research on Self and Curses (especially the latter) might lead to Telepathica research actions that we want to get done ASAP in case it can help Guilliman.
Currently, the Y1 DD is unused while Y2's is assigned to the Ministorum anyway, so it won't be too troublesome in terms of DD relegation. This also means both the research and peace treaty actions wrap up the turn they start, so there's less waiting to see if they succeeded or not.
In other thoughts, the Y3 DD is also unused. Can you switch around Ridcully's Y3 and Y4 GDs and put a DD on looking for infiltrators, since those are some pretty high-level operatives?
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- Back in Cali
@Nurgle we need to do the counter frequency for Slaanesh to help break the curse since that is the hardest and most dangerous part. It is also a Slaanesh curse that Guilliman is affected by.
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- Earth
The thing is, Ridcully discovered the Slaanesh frequencies, so it works better if he's also the one to do the counterfrequencies.
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- Back in Cali
We are not doing any counter frequency that is the issue. If we want to have the best chance then we need it. If you all really think it most be Ridcully then drop the mentor alpha from him. Stacking the effort to heal Guilliman is far more important than a couple of Alphas.
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- Earth
Telepathica
SLOT A (Ridcully)
Y3: Greater Divination (Infiltrators in the Trust)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
Y4: Greater divination (Campaign support)
Y5: Research: (Slaanesh) Destructive Resonances
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT B (Tamia)
Y4: Mentoring: Alpha
Y5: Research (Disrupter Dolphin)
SLOT C (Free Greater Divination)
Y?: Free Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)
So does something like this work? Might as well do something quick for Tamia that might later help with the anti-Tyranid stuff.
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