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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Working out Saurus stuff:

How would our LH Snipers use Saurus Shields and Weapons???
1,000 Cr *18= Basic Tau Weapons (50k Thrones, 5K material, 500 AM) per year
5,000 Cr *10= Advanced Tau Weapons (500k Thrones, 25K material, 10,000 AM, 1,000 EM) per year
25,000 Cr *3= Exotic Tau Weapons (3,000k Thrones, 125K material, 100,000 AM, 20,000 EM) per year

Credits: 18,000+50,000+75,000 = 143,000 Cr
Cost:
14.9 Mil Thrones
715k Material
409k Advanced Material
80k Exotic Material
High Relic Weapon+Shields - Heroes of Avernus, Grandmaster Psyker and Witch Hunters (2700*(1+25)) - 70,200 Cr
High Relic Weapons - Last Hunters (1200*15) - 18,000 Cr
Mid Relic Weapons+Shields - Primaris and Grandmaster Psyker (160*100) - 16,000 Cr
Low Relic Weapons+Shields - Helguard Regimental Champions, Psy-Hunters,Life Guard, Master Psyker and Witch Hunters (12*(500+200+1300+600)) - 31,200 Cr
7600 Cr
Welll
5000 Cr - Low Artifact Weapon+Armor (Your Favourite Character)
2600 Cr
1,000,000 Metal per year (*2860)

143,000 Credits
2.86 Billion Metal per year to Skinks
Flat back- Fast reptiles able to bend space when on the move making them hard targets, stable firing platform. 1,000 Credits for breeding population
Bloom bee- Bees capable of massively boosting a plants growth rate, either for farming or for battlefield preparation. Goes well with the more dangerous Avernite Flora. 20,000 Credits for breeding population
Bolehs spider- Highly friendly giant spiders ranging from the size of a knight tot he size of a warhound with the strength and toughness to match. Possess a devastating poison that can be injected or sprayed. 100 Credits per pack or 4,000 Credits for breeding population.
Sotek serpent- Magma Wyrm sized serpents with a range of daemonology powers, lightning speed and the second most deadly known poison. Makes up for its comparative fragility with its speed and powers. 2,000 Credits each (max 10)
Sluggish Sloth- A four ton creature that stores up its strength allowing for brief bursts of incredible speed and strength. 20 Credits each or 5,000 Credits for breeding population.
Dread Saurian- Battle Titan sized reptiles with enhancement biomancy allowing them to tear apart even Titans, and shrug off all but the most powerful of attacks. 5,000 Credits each (max 10)
Psyrodactyl- The bane of the Biologis and one of the most common predators of the Avernite skies. 15,000 Credits for breeding population.
Salamander- Lizards that act as crew served weapons in the Lizardman armies, able to slay foes at range with bursts of corrosive flame that can breach all but the strongest of armours. 2,000 Credits for breeding population.
Razordon- Lizards that act as crew served weapons in the Lizardman armies, able to slay foes at range with volleys of venomous, barbed spines that can spell doom for any lightly armored foe. 2,000 Credits for breeding population.
Stegadon- Incredibly tough reptiles the size of a Battle tank, often carries skink light artillery to war. 3,000 Credits for breeding population.
Carnosaur- Smaller version of the Dread Saurian, only the size of a carnifex. 100 Credits each (max 200)
Cold One- Horse sized riding beast. Reasonably fast and agile, tough for its size, even by Avernite standards, and utterly tireless. 1,000 Credits for breeding population

Flat Back - Breeding Population (1,000 Cr)
Bloom Bee - Breeding Population (20,000 Cr)
Bolehs Spider - Breeding Population (4,000 Cr)
Sotek Serpent - *10 (20,000 Cr)
Sluggish Sloth - Breeding Population (5,000 Cr)
Dread Saurian - *10 (50,000 Cr)
Psyrodactyl - Breeding Population (15,000 Cr)
Salamander - Breeding Population (2,000 Cr)
Razardon - Breeding Population (2,000 Cr)
Stegadon - Breeding Population (3,000 Cr)
Carnosaur - *100 (20,000 Cr)
Cold One - Breeding Population (1,000 Cr)

I'm just going to assume these are in aggregate game-changing useful.

(1+20+4+20+5+50+15+2+2+3+20+1)*1000=143k Credits

Andres110 said:
Also whether their webs can be used to make armour like in real life.
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I'm reminded of the time time I went with Silksteel Formers in an Alpha Centuari game.

Still a bit sad Avernus doesn't have Mind Worms, I guess Implantation Spiders are the closest I'll get.
 
Shard said:
I'm not sure who, if anyone we should give the Low-Artifacts to. Tormod? Richards? Syr?
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Sigmund, Syr, Odysseus and Admiral Sarnow all have varied blade traits, as do Inquisitor Varquez and General Schwarz if we feel like handing out gifts.

Edit: Of our PDF marshals Cheshire, Waters, Khol, Stumpf, Bruhn and Lind have blade traits if we really feel like splurging.
 
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Ulrad said:
@Durin
1. Since there are a LOT of assumptions going around now, roughly how big of a morale penalty should we expect for fielding the spiders?
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1. -10 to -100 depending on how close they are (-100 is for the handler), -100 to people who can see them on the horizon
it will go down over time as your people get used to them and differentiate them from Blink Spiders. Just because a lion killed your brother does not mean you have to hate domestic cats
 
@Durin, from the stats in sabreFather's bestiary, does the cone fire of the salamanders' flame breath truly almost double the range of the Knight Titan-grade Conflagration Cannon? (32" versus 18")
 
@Durin

1. Would overpaying the Skinks cause penalties or bonuses to the Peace Treaty Roll?
2. Would overpaying both provide bonuses to the Peace Treaty Roll?
 
That would defeat the purpose of keeping our spending within 5%. Lets not do stupid shit like that, 'kay?
 
Given that we now know that the morale damage from the spiders will wear off over time, I think it would make sense to get them and have our forces conduct battlefield exercises alongside them, so that they get used to them. We can avoid deploying the spiders in combat until their handlers and the rest of our troops will only have minimal or nonexistent morale penalties. At the end we'll have a potent new force.
 
[X] Plan Lizard Weapon Trade Max

1,000 Cr (max 20)= Basic Tau Weapons (50k Thrones, 5K material, 500 AM) per year
5,000 Cr (max 10)= Advanced Tau Weapons (500k Thrones, 25K material, 10,000 AM, 1,000 EM) per year
25,000 Cr (max 5)= Exotic Tau Weapons (3,000k Thrones, 125K material, 100,000 AM, 20,000 EM) per year
195 000 credits, 21kk Thrones, 700k Material, 620k AM, 110k EM per year.
Low Artifact Shields (Rotbart, Jane, Jacob) = 9000 credits
Low Artifact Weapons/Shields (Syr, Waters, Bruhn, Khol) = 20000 credits
High Relic Weapons/Shields (Heroes of Avernus) = 2700 credits
High Relic Shields (Last Hunters) = 22500 credits
High Relic Weapons/Shields (Grandmaster Psyker and Witch Hunters) = 67500 credits
Mid Relic Weapons/Shields (Life Guard) = 32000 credits
Mid Relic Weapons/Shields (Primaris and Grandmaster Battle Psykers) = 16000 credits
Low Relic Weapons/Shields (Psy Hunters) = 15600 credits
Low Relic Weapons/Shields (Master Psyker and Witch Hunters) = 6000 credits
Low Relic Weapons (Helguard Regimental Champions) = 3000 credits
194 300 credits.
3.9 billion metal/year
195 000 credits.
Flat Back - Breeding Population (1,000 Cr)
Bloom Bee - Breeding Population (20,000 Cr)
Bolehs Spider - Breeding Population (4,000 Cr)
Sotek Serpent - *10 (20,000 Cr)
Sluggish Sloth - Breeding Population (5,000 Cr)
Dread Saurian - *10 (50,000 Cr)
Psyrodactyl - Breeding Population (15,000 Cr)
Salamander - Breeding Population (2,000 Cr)
Razardon - Breeding Population (2,000 Cr)
Stegadon - Breeding Population (3,000 Cr)
Carnosaur - *200 (20,000 Cr)
Cold One - Breeding Population (1,000 Cr)
143 000 Credits

Plan to get a lot relics from Saurus' plus some artifacts for our most combat capable heroes and marshals. Couldn't care less about spiders and don't really think they'll be a big detail, so might as well buy them. A noticeable hit to our EM income, though.
 
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agumentic said:
[X] Plan Lizard Weapon Trade Max

1,000 Cr (max 20)= Basic Tau Weapons (50k Thrones, 5K material, 500 AM) per year
5,000 Cr (max 10)= Advanced Tau Weapons (500k Thrones, 25K material, 10,000 AM, 1,000 EM) per year
25,000 Cr (max 5)= Exotic Tau Weapons (3,000k Thrones, 125K material, 100,000 AM, 20,000 EM) per year
195 000 credits, 21kk Thrones, 700k Material, 620k AM, 110k EM per year.
Low Artifact Shields (Rotbart, Jane, Jacob) = 9000 credits
Low Artifact Weapons/Shields (Syr, Waters, Bruhn, Khol) = 20000 credits
High Relic Weapons/Shields (Heroes of Avernus) = 2700 credits
High Relic Shields (Last Hunters) = 22500 credits
High Relic Weapons/Shields (Grandmaster Psyker and Witch Hunters) = 67500 credits
Mid Relic Weapons/Shields (Life Guard) = 32000 credits
Mid Relic Weapons/Shields (Primaris and Grandmaster Battle Psykers) = 16000 credits
Low Relic Weapons/Shields (Psy Hunters) = 15600 credits
Low Relic Weapons/Shields (Master Psyker and Witch Hunters) = 6000 credits
Low Relic Weapons (Helguard Regimental Champions) = 3000 credits
194 300 credits.
3.9 billion metal/year
195 000 credits.
Flat Back - Breeding Population (1,000 Cr)
Bloom Bee - Breeding Population (20,000 Cr)
Bolehs Spider - Breeding Population (4,000 Cr)
Sotek Serpent - *10 (20,000 Cr)
Sluggish Sloth - Breeding Population (5,000 Cr)
Dread Saurian - *10 (50,000 Cr)
Psyrodactyl - Breeding Population (15,000 Cr)
Salamander - Breeding Population (2,000 Cr)
Razardon - Breeding Population (2,000 Cr)
Stegadon - Breeding Population (3,000 Cr)
Carnosaur - *100 (20,000 Cr)
Cold One - Breeding Population (1,000 Cr)
143 000 Credits

Plan to get a lot relics from Saurus' plus some artifacts for our most combat capable heroes and marshals. Couldn't care less about spiders and don't really think they'll be a big detail, so might as well buy them. A noticeable hit to our EM income, though.
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One correction, the max for Carnosaurs is 200 and they cost 100 credits each so while the price is the same it should be *200
 
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    Scientific name: Canem Compatientes
    Nicknames: Man's best friend, The People's companion, Good Boy
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    The Canem Compatientes, is a descendant of the dogs brought by the original colonists of Avernus. While some of those dogs eventually evolved into massive wolves that stalk the plains, harking back to their feral ancestors, the Canem Compatientes was inspired by a more modern usage. The high death rate of the initial colonists resulted in many psychological issues, from ptsd to survivor's guilt to depression. Though they swiftly moved to orbit, the psychological support and companionship of their canine companions proved highly effective at providing moral support.

    Modern therapy dogs are a different breed entirely. The result of over 20000 years of continuous evolution, they resemble the ancient Corgi breed, they are naturally highly empathic, and an active calming ability channeled through their fur that tends to relax psykers in the vicinity, although it can be easily resisted with active effort. The result is an animal that excels in helping others overcome their trauma, and can provide notable support during a psyker's training. These abilities are naturally strengthened upon the creation of a familiar bond.

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    • You know after thinking about I have realised that the old guard of Avernus are going to be like the grandparents of today complaining about phones and washing machines where they had to use newspapers and wash basins.

    "Why are you complaining about not getting a pulse rifle! An impaler is still going to do meaningful damage if you use it right. You do not get to complain until you are face to face with a chaos space marine with a lasgun you little s@#%!"


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