[x] Alectai
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
These are also bandits, and thus almost certainly have inferior arts to a noble of the Inner Sect.
Shallow for a ducal clan is only shallow by ducal clan standards. That is still an incredibly library by our standards - more than enough to find a couple of arts that fit us well. If we can go into Archive 1 and pull out a bunch of arts that we think are appropriate, then the much higher level Cai archive should sure as hell be able to do the same.
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Yeah I was gonna say...of course LQ wasn't the reason the trade is happening. They already decided on the trade and around the same time, received the request from CRX and decided to choose from the Bai arts provided because as has been explained, the Cai archive can't be that big. Not to mention LQ's build is unique and kinda hard to match. Darkness and Lunar/Stellar qi is supposed to be more rare among cultivators.
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Look, it might be just an in-story explanation as to why it was taking so long. Maybe in reality, Yrsillar was just busy. It can't be easy or quick coming up with such amazing arts and techniques. He has his own life too.
fictionfan
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I had a plan to have Hanyi use Enrapturing Silhouette to draw the enemy to us well we buff up everything, but Mist of the vale actually has a longer ranger then she does.
I had a plan to have Hanyi use Enrapturing Silhouette to draw the enemy to us well we buff up everything, but Mist of the vale actually has a longer ranger then she does.
Even if the sects are new to the whole political power thing, they have been around for a long ass time and have had the time to pick up enormous amounts of arts. The sect archive should have far more arts, with far more variation in what is in it.
Remember that ducal archives like the Bai are big because they had time since before the empire founded and hundreds of thousands of people following different Ways leaving arts behind to build up their archives. The sects are like that also.
The Cai have had neither the time nor the people to build up a large libary comparably. Everything they got had to be traded for or maybe gifted to them. And like pointed out this update, getting arts from clans aint cheap. They might have a big libary true, but one that covers everything? No way.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
[ ] Plan: The Night Parade of One Thousand Demons - Revision Two
-[ ] Approach to within a few hundred meters discreetly, layering defenses while on final approach (especially SES and TRF) and then activate Forgotten Vale Melody at maximum range, scale up to Traveller's End ideally before an organized response can be mustered, use Elegy to isolate the illusionist, and maintain defenses and PLR control effects while sneaking Hannyi and Zhengui as a team into the mists to launch ambushes to chip away at the lower realm 'Bandits'. Stall them and contain them by abusing our mobility and stealth, but ensure that defenses are in place to endure a potential sneak attack from the third target. Respond to any surprises (Such as a backstab by third target on any allies) by detonating Traveller's End--boosted through Joyous Toast and Sixiang's support, and if anything remains intact, use all means necessary to contain any survivors until Renxiang and reinforcements arrive.
-[ ] Approach to within a few hundred meters discreetly, layering defenses while on final approach (especially SES and TRF) and then activate Forgotten Vale Melody at maximum range, scale up to Traveller's End ideally before an organized response can be mustered, use Elegy to isolate the illusionist, and maintain defenses and PLR control effects while sneaking Hannyi and Zhengui as a team into the mists to launch ambushes to chip away at the lower realm 'Bandits'. Stall them and contain them by abusing our mobility and stealth, but ensure that defenses are in place to endure a potential sneak attack from the third target. Respond to any surprises (Such as a backstab by third target on any allies) by detonating Traveller's End--boosted through Joyous Toast and Sixiang's support, and if anything remains intact, use all means necessary to contain any survivors until Renxiang and reinforcements arrive.
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fictionfan
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@yrsillar : How far can our escape talisman take us compared to the very far range of our mist? Can we buff up all our art then teleport right on top of them?
Also can we maybe set up our mist at close range finish setting it up then expand it to very far?
Also can we maybe set up our mist at close range finish setting it up then expand it to very far?
No going to happen. Most of the bandits are going to be passed out from being drained of Qi. There will be plenty of people to question afterwards.
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That would be bad for CRX, she needs a chance to show off too. Her mom made it clear she's expected to succeed.
If they split up, why complain? The scrubs are still more of a threat then a boon. Similar goes if they scatter to avoid the looming cloud of doom mist--that'll slow them down, which is our goal in the first place.
In general, I disagree with the other plan. We know there may be a trap, or the enemy may be stronger than expected, or they may know our abilities. But the response to that isn't to make a plan with finicky moving parts, it's to roll in under full power. Nuts to using Elegy on the illusionist, just blast them with Hoarfrost, and hit half the enemy army at the same time as a bonus. We've seen what a prepared counter to FVM looks like in the tournament. It failed. In any case, better for them to counter something we set up beforehand than to have them counter FVM after we spend four actions setting it up. And FVM is much easier to dispel before Traveler's End is used.
They have to be expecting an attack. Surprise won't get us far. I'm quite sure that Ling Qi can spend more time putting up techniques than her opponents, so why delay?
fictionfan
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Not really it would show her good judgement in both hiring Ling and sending her.
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Are you... actually unhappy that CRX is getting us arts from the Bai library?
[]prepared Alpha Strike
- before we leave, set up the Full FVM art to maximum range (Very Far) and use JT to boost Travellers End to Rank A/Damage A
- use TRF to prepare our defense
- use our superior speed to catch up to the enemy group
- trigger the Travellers End AoE
- release our Spirits and use PLR to fight survivors
- if Sixiang doesnt need to dispel, have them boost PLRs Resist
now to explain:
this is not a duel and there is no need to play fair imo, so we should set up our strongest AoE before we are even in fighting range.
Said strongest AoE has a 400 meter radius around us and can deal A damage and our Hit (A18) and Penetration (B13) stats on it are pretty good too, in fact, if they dont have a dedicated spirit defense/tank build this could even get the 2 Green 2 opponents. Even if it doesnt defeat them, this
The problem with the alpha Strike is that it is very Qi expensive, so the idea is that we can use the Qi drain of PLR to restore us, especially since Lunatic Whirl can attack all 3 opponents with one usage, so together with our spirits, we should be able to either grind the opponents down, or stall them until our reinforcement arrives.
- before we leave, set up the Full FVM art to maximum range (Very Far) and use JT to boost Travellers End to Rank A/Damage A
- use TRF to prepare our defense
- use our superior speed to catch up to the enemy group
- trigger the Travellers End AoE
- release our Spirits and use PLR to fight survivors
- if Sixiang doesnt need to dispel, have them boost PLRs Resist
now to explain:
this is not a duel and there is no need to play fair imo, so we should set up our strongest AoE before we are even in fighting range.
Said strongest AoE has a 400 meter radius around us and can deal A damage and our Hit (A18) and Penetration (B13) stats on it are pretty good too, in fact, if they dont have a dedicated spirit defense/tank build this could even get the 2 Green 2 opponents. Even if it doesnt defeat them, this
effect means, that we should be able to press our advantage.
The problem with the alpha Strike is that it is very Qi expensive, so the idea is that we can use the Qi drain of PLR to restore us, especially since Lunatic Whirl can attack all 3 opponents with one usage, so together with our spirits, we should be able to either grind the opponents down, or stall them until our reinforcement arrives.
fictionfan
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The range on our mist is very far and once they are in it I don't expect any of the scrubs to be able to get out. They are not going to see looming cloud our range at this point is enough to cover the whole valley.
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So, I would like to point out that our goal is to slow them down long enough for Cai and the soldiers to get there. One of the things that are slowing them down already is the large size of the group. Drastically reducing that size quickly may work against us unless we can hold the greens in place with PLR or FVM.
fictionfan
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Well are we making any assumption that the people in charge care at all about the scrubs or do we expect them to run and abandon them at the first sign of us?
The Sect archives as a whole? Yes. One of the draws of the Sect is their extensive library. The Sect's ARCHIVE ONE, on the other hand? That I find harder to believe.
It wouldn't need to cover everything. We aren't actually that picky. Since we've placed the request, we've picked up Resist arts, Sensory arts, Social arts, Stealth/Movement arts - there is a lot that we would find useful, even if you judge merely by the arts we actually chose to cultivate, not just the ones we were tempted to pick up but didn't. Matching our elements is a bit trickier, but not excessively so; we generally want our arts aligned with Music/Darkness/Wind/Wood (roughly in that order, multiples encouraged).
I find it very hard to believe that the Cai would need the equivalent of an inter-library loan just to fit this level of specialization.
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