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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Which we do actually, we have thirty years to recruit and train a shitload of Thunder Warriors.
Doomed Wombat
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Hence why we want to complete them.
If they're this good as an unfinished version because emps is lazy, imagine how good they are if he actually finished them.
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Space Marines are a mass production Super Solider with a limiting factor of the geneseed. If we fix the Thunder Warriors then we have a faster and "stronger" strain that allows us to augment our super soldiers rapidly and with not much more cost.
It also gives us our own faux Astartes under our command. Instead of under Julius's.
Shard
One and Many
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Emps ditched the TWs for Space Marines. We should just leave em as a desperate force and antipsyker supplement.
Maybe the hypno-theraphy combined with Djiin Skein to solve the reflex problem but that should be about it. We have tons of wildlife to study and other powers like Callamus could research TWs more if they wanted.
On the other hand we're the only one that can modify them with Alkahestry. What will work for Callamus might not work for us. EG Psychic disciplines.
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Sooo, think we should try to make it policy to build a national Thunder Warrior production reserve of material? Just in case we get into another unexpected major war.
There's also the suggested use as psyker hunters, but despite their warp resistance I think that's only worthwhile because they're expendable and recruit from a different pool than our other elite forces.
Good idea.
Getting another century of life out of the Thunder Warriors or being able to teach them the right reflexes a century faster would be transformative in terms of how useful they are.
But I also am interested in Maximal studying them because it seems like a relatively low-risk action that might get him stats.
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He ditched them because he couldn't be bothered to improve them. The Space Marines were also never intended they were also a rush job after the Primarchs got stolen. They were also incomplete at least in canon and even in Embers since the True Born are a thing. Once fixed the Thunder Warriors are extremely potent.
Also Hypno-Therapy is used on the Astartes because it is needed to activate certain functions of the geneseeds. So it is not useful for the Thunder Warriors. The Djiin Skein may or may not be useful though.
Doomed Wombat
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Emps also massacred them because they were a potential threat to him due to their martial prowess.
They're unfinished not weaker, like a lot of things emps did he sacrificed them because of
speed.Difference is astartes cheat with psycic bullshit, thunder warriors don't.
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The main reason Emps chose the Space Marines over the TWs is due to them actually being mass producible on a wide scale and had other benefits including pretty much being ageless. The TWs do have a number of benefits even while being unfinished including being able to easily kill multiple Astartes once they get used to their reflexes and are pretty much on part with True Born even if they do lack the reaction times of Astartes.
Honestly they'd be great for Avernus since we don't even expect most of our soldiers to last more than a few centuries and our specialty being elite soldiers. That and as people mentioned we have Alkehestry which can possibly be used to improve them.
Also we have word of Durin that we can use the process on psykers so maybe starting up an order to train up psyker TWs with them maybe specializing in biomancy which should not only supplement their abilities but also help deal with the reflex issue through the use of biomancy.
Doomed Wombat
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And the age issue if they're good enough.
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Actual immortality through biomancy is rare, but I imagine any hero biomancers who rise out of this hypothetical formation would have a decent chance of getting it.
Maybe we could develop a lesser technique that could be used to increase the effectiveness of the Juvenat?
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Thunder Warriors can't do Space Marine hynotherapy. Durin said so.
Shard
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Once again, those TWs who could kill multiple Astartes were like, millenia old. And the TWs who get used to their reflexes are also TWs about to drop dead from age.
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Ah, but we have the hypnotherapy learning chairs for normal people. We could develop something to help with the problem once we have the fundamentals for that down.
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Doomed Wombat
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I known only mentioned it as a hypothetical.
Which also tells us there are ways to make TW live for millennia.
Though anything capable of going 1:5 on astartes while about to drop dead and wearing effectively plate mail vs power armour is something to try and acquire no?
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ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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...He's focking Wolf Santa.
Wolf. Santa.
Good Hoeth, I just wrote those words.
Wolf. Santa.
Good Hoeth, I just wrote those words.
Doomed Wombat
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Peeps been making that joke for a while, but yes he is wolf santa.
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...does one of them have a red nose? Hah!
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Actually IIRC biomancers can sometimes increase their lifespands if they are good enough.