The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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To be honest, I liked doing Divinations for the Eldar. It connected us to the rest of the galaxy's plot threads. Plus, it arguably was incredibly useful for the most active heroes in the galaxy.

I'd argue that Ridcully is almost wasted on the Imperial Trust, if that wasn't where Avernus was located.
 
I'd argue that Ridcully is almost wasted on the Imperial Trust, if that wasn't where Avernus was located.
Well he is a galactic level asset as far as I can tell.

If the Trust had its own page spread similar to the major polities I think our extraordinary assets would look a little like

Daot military arsenal, Ridcully, access to the Crucible.

Significantly longer than both Callamus and Ultramar that have bugger all in extraordinary assets.

Though yes I do enjoy doing divinations for the Eldar, if for no other reason then his free divination is going towards something rather than just serving to satisfy our curiosity.
 
*gasp*...they are ELDAR DEAMON-SHIPS!

I only just realized that!
the wraiths are basically eldar-god-deamons!
they are and are far less powerful then other daemons but make up for it by possessing Psychic War Machines
I honestly just ignored that. And after a fair bit of searching, I can't find any mention of webway speed of travel.

@Durin
1.How fast would the Warhost arrive at Asgard/Muspelheim? Is it a matter of hours, days?
1. a matter of hours
Given that what we're selling is information which is hella valuable and constantly being made I'd be surprised if we reach that point.

@Durin
1. What is the effect of Turoq's info net dying on the dark mech?
2. How long do we estimate people will be fighting over Turoq's domain.
3. Would more of his people surviving extend that?
4. Would it be worth more of his people surviving and then likely fleeing as well?
1. they will not know what is happening at the other battles quite as fast and will not be able to predict the arrival of your reinforcements
2. from what you can see Turoq was a load bearing boss, and his domain will tear itself into tiny shreds now he is gone, with it only ending when either another power moves in or nothing is left
3. not really
4. no
@Durin how many days will it take for the attacking forces at Asgard to reach the defenses?
less then one more day, so 9 or 10 in total
 
@Durin
Are the farseers we have seconded to us on automatic for in-battle use?

If not, we should probably have them explicitly provide divinatory support for the first torpedo volley. Boosting the hit rate a few percent there is likely to cause massive amounts of extra damage, especially if we also break out Vortex torpedoes.
 
@Durin
Are the farseers we have seconded to us on automatic for in-battle use?

If not, we should probably have them explicitly provide divinatory support for the first torpedo volley. Boosting the hit rate a few percent there is likely to cause massive amounts of extra damage, especially if we also break out Vortex torpedoes.
they are on automatic, you can ask them to do specific things but otherwise they will help where they can
 
@Durin
1. Amusing question, but how would you rank our chances if we sent every Paragon of combat hero we have after Abaddon? That is Jane and Jacob, Mineyev, Sepet, Surt, Horatius, Azyr, and I believe Xavier? Would we beat the Lord of the Black Imperium?
1ii. If so how many people would we loose doing it?
2. If Abaddon is a competitor for an Archtype what would it be? Warlord?
 
@Durin
1. Amusing question, but how would you rank our chances if we sent every Paragon of combat hero we have after Abaddon? That is Jane and Jacob, Mineyev, Sepet, Surt, Horatius, Azyr, and I believe Xavier? Would we beat the Lord of the Black Imperium?
1ii. If so how many people would we loose doing it?
2. If Abaddon is a competitor for an Archtype what would it be? Warlord?
1:....if we roll nothing but 100's and they roll nothing but 1's we will get....

a epic death-scene of....our fav characters instead of a pathetic one.
 
@Durin
1. Amusing question, but how would you rank our chances if we sent every Paragon of combat hero we have after Abaddon? That is Jane and Jacob, Mineyev, Sepet, Surt, Horatius, Azyr, and I believe Xavier? Would we beat the Lord of the Black Imperium?
1ii. If so how many people would we loose doing it?
2. If Abaddon is a competitor for an Archtype what would it be? Warlord?
1. if abbadon is alone you would need a crit in the right place but could win. (assuming black crystal). If he has any guards at all no
1ii three to all
2. yes
 
Ok so with the new information I am sure of my plan more and more. The warhost will arrive a day after the Admech attack the space defenses. Give or take a day.

The fleet will arrive in Muselphiem 2 days before they reach the defenses. Which means they should have enough time to harass them and really put the screws to them when they get in range of the starforts there.

The chaos fleet at the colony will be making a run for it and will most likely get attacked by the incoming rescue fleet.

We may be arranging it so that all three fleets are going to be in battles at the same time. Rotbart is amazing.
 
Hard to believe he ain't a transcendent yet.

@Durin
1. Are you taking the more recent lore on the origin of Drach'nyen as canon in Embers?
no I am not
and he is verging on tracendent in multiple ways but not there. Getting over the border of transcendent is very hard. Basically the only people you know who have done it are the Phoenix Lords, Eldrad, The Emperor, The Silent Kings and most of the Primarches
 
and he is verging on tracendent in multiple ways but not there. Getting over the border of transcendent is very hard. Basically the only people you know who have done it are the Phoenix Lords, Eldrad, The Emperor, The Silent Kings and most of the Primarches
Yeah, I guess I meant its more impressive that he's strong enough to fight what 8 other paragons of combat two of whom have 59 combat and one of whom is a psyker and we'd need to crit with one of the most powerful artefacts in the galaxy to win without his guards.

I mean he fought the newly transcended Bjorn and survived with what you described as only a minor stat decrease.

He's so much of a murder blender now I'm torn between wanting to see how dangerous he is as a transcendent and being horrified at the prospect.

Although add Bjorn, Areatha and I'm pretty sure most Exalted to the list.?
 
Yeah, I guess I meant its more impressive that he's strong enough to fight what 8 other paragons of combat two of whom have 59 combat and one of whom is a psyker and we'd need to crit with one of the most powerful artefacts in the galaxy to win without his guards.

I mean he fought the newly transcended Bjorn and survived with what you described as only a minor stat decrease.

He's so much of a murder blender now I'm torn between wanting to see how dangerous he is as a transcendent and being horrified at the prospect.

Although add Bjorn, Areatha and I'm pretty sure most Exalted to the list.?
Bjorn is dead, yes Areatha and Exalted are as are many gods but dont really count
and he combines masses opf paragon traits with paragon tier blessings from each of the 5 great chaos gods and equipment that starts at artifact and reaches divine artifact in quality
 
Bjorn is dead, yes Areatha and Exalted are as are many gods but dont really count
and he combines masses opf paragon traits with paragon tier blessings from each of the 5 great chaos gods and equipment that starts at artifact and reaches divine artifact in quality
Given that it took fighting his way through an entire black crusade 1v1ing abaddon and then being shot with the Planet Killer to finally put him down I'd say he proved his transcendence in the brief time he was alive.

Heh divine cheaters :D.

???

@Durin
1. I thought you said he rejected the abomination? Or did he change his mind what with Bjorn and the Prophet?
2. If he were to transcend how high up the totem pole of danger would he climb given his already high position?
3. Would the level 4 give him a chance at transcendence if he fought it directly?

Said to know Bjorn is dead. At least he went out murdering chaos terminators and wounding Abbadon.
Don't worry, Russ has got his True Claw and uses it to murder people still in memory of his son.
 
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I may end up using this as a setting for an Omake at some point. Take a rogue psyker 'rescued' from Daemonic influence by the fae, give them enough training not to explode or get possessed, then drop them on a city back behemoth, they can't be seen going back to live in a human city -because of either the nature of their deal with the fae or being in the system as a rogue psyker, they take up work as a private investigator to support themselves, and then it's essentially reverse Dresden files, with the civilization being magical and the character's primary advantage being their ability to put themselves under an illusion then go buy tech off of the shadier elements of Avernite society, so they can pull a gun or auspex when in a pinch.
Also putting the idea out there for anyone who wants to steal it.
 
First Impressions
First Impressions


C-BB-DU-409 checked and rechecked his auspex returns, standing vigilant for signs of ambush. So far the tight formation had prevented harassment, though a few formations had made feints, but nothing had committed. He had no thoughts to spare for how exactly the enemy had matched the maximum forces needed to reinforce the world, nor unease about the mysterious change in the hostile ships target profiles, or even the attention to spare for his creche sister C-BB-DS-469 giggling about their formations tightness. Then they passed the point of no return, where no harassment was possible, freeing up dedicated resources for "general use" and C-BB-DU-409 felt emotions seep back into his mind.

C-BB-DU-409 did not like the look of the enemy fleet. They were outnumbered massively, but the technology they bore was beyond any he had seen, their flagship especially seemed like something out of the holy age of technology.

"Mmm, look at that big boy, think we can take it? " came a sultry voice over the vox.
With a whir his Automata Blotter came to life striping the strange empathize of context.

"Unsure, C-BB-DS-469, comparing to archonship files the flagship likely possess armor on par with a battle barge at least. We may need to resort to boarding once it is stripped of support."

"Oh, you do know how to get me going i'm looking forward to getting my marines inside of it."

"You enthusiasm for boarding actions is noted, but i'm concerned we may not have the numbers to take the ship and one of the cities, and i'm worried about the damage we may take running it down."

The exasperated sigh he received in return had far more emotion on it than the bandwidth should allow "well your as boring as ever, you'd think you would be more fun after you got your D"

" I fail to see how attaining ascension would do more than make me more efficient. At my assigned tasks."

"oh, you stodgy thing, I remember getting my D. Remember allusion to the aftermath of the conquest of Nutera III it was quite the experience."

"C-BB-DS-469, check your memory banks. Your vessel was blessed immediately prior to that battle, not during the cleanup"

There was a notable pause, clearly his sister ship was checking their memory for defects "OHHHH-ho-ho-ho!, you sweet summer child, i'll send you the picts but to get back to the matter at hand, what do you make of those large bulges on their vessels?"

"Unknown, I've been running analysis of them since we got in system, there positing seems to suggest needing to be obstruction free on both ends. Your take?"

"Hmm, good catch there. Anything involving both ends can be tricky, maybe maneuvering thrusts? Something to let them slip in and then disengage safely "

C-BB-DU-409 signaled ascent "that would fit their historic tactics, enabling quick disgorgement during harassment. Though I doubt that we would be so fortunate to counter their most recent advantage."

"Well, you know what they say, don't look a gift nun in the mouth sometimes we do just get lucky."

"Possibly, much of the intl in this operation has been strange, from both sides"

"Oh yes, looking at the forces the pulled they seemed to know exactly what we would consider to large a force to engage"

"I wish command would share the source of the strange intl with us, but ours is not to question."

"True, still i'd always like to know the arrangement of factors sounding our duty"

" well, we'll be seeing what they are soon enough, hopefully nothing to dangerous."

"Of if they are they expend it all over the escorts"

"Wait, something is wrong, look at the enemies maneuvering"

The playfulness vanished like base iron before a lance, "that formation… no. it can't be."

C-BB-DU-409 had no time for his sisters denial, he'd already opened a high priority line to the coordinator.

"Enemy formation matches firing line formation observed in incident T0-Reguls-Paterna! High probability of high intensity ranged bombardment! Advise immediate advancements of escort flotillas "

"...negative C-BB-DU-409. No energy signatures are detected, do not be bluffed out of formation."

"Forwarding data on aspx anomalies, high probability they are offensive in nature."

"Your theory has been considered and discarded C-BB-DU-409, an expert was consulted. Cease communication."

C-BB-DU-409 paused, he trusted command, but that formation was too familiar, he would risk it rather than his squadron, like he'd been made to do.

"Final communication, emergency protocol. requesting expert verification."

"You are aware of the cost of insolence C-BB-DU-409"

"Acknowledged."

A new voice came on the line, one that possessed the iconic wetness of the plague gods followers.

"I did not come here from blightforge to be gainsaid by a jumped up menial! I have seen similar devices before, I pledge on my love of grandfather nurgle that they are a form of ECM. do not trust your asupexes once they energize. NOW DO NOT QUESTION ME AGAIN!"

The line slammed shut with a burst of painful static.

"Man, that guys a bigger D then I could hope to get." C-BB-DU-409 noted his Automata Blotter had crashed

He began to respond, then the universe exploded.

Damage alerts reported his hull was boiling as his reactor froze, sensor returns instead that the distant world was now mere miles away, the size of a pea and the mass of a star, his coms blared That his squadarion was a million ships spread out over a thousand light years. He frantically rebooted his cognators , banishing and banishing and re-summoning his conditions demons, power cycling any system he could reach, then suddenly sanity returned

He was out of formation, his vox casters jammed, his auspex cold, he was down to the eyes of his demonic hull, entire seconds had passed!

"This O-F-895 to command! Please respond!"

"This is titan control, infernus dominus is on a rampage!"

"This Is C-BB-DT-200 to all ships, Resume formation!"

The comms where anarchy, frequency jumping randomly. ECM? Some kind of long range scrap code? Treachery? Didn't matter, something for coordinator to deal with. at the velocity they were going even a few moments of drifting they had already greatly disrupted their formation, it would take hours to resume ideal coverage! Some of his squadron where still drifting! Frantically C-BB-DU-409 poured everything he had into restoring communications, he could guide them in if he had to, he had the…

"I repeat! Inbound ordinance! Please acknowledge!"

What? With a mental twist resources were diverted from coms to his Auspex arrays, viciously crash booting them as the demons manning them howled in indignation but where prodded into compliance with the promise of a thousand slaves. C-BB-DU-409 saw, and for the first time in a long time, felt fear.

Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 12 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 24 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 36 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 12 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Battleship torpedo volley detected En route, 12 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 48 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Battleship torpedo volley detected En route, 24 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Battleship torpedo volley detected En route, 48 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 60 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Battleship torpedo volley detected En route, 60 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 72 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Dreadnought torpedo volley detected En route, 84 torpedos tracked!
Warning! Battleship torpedo volley detected En route, 72 torpedos tracked!

With a thought he switched the ordinance trackers to a simple counters, desperately reaching out to the rest of his squadron.

By the time he raised any of them, both counters where well past 3 figures.


@Durin I made a silly little thing . If my blind guessing got close enough to cannon to get messaged in let me know and i'll do said messaging.
 
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@Durin
1. Just curious, but is Ridcully the best Seer in the Galaxy?

2. Can Ridcully divine the state of humanity in other galaxies? If the Trust is capable of sending generation ships outside of the galaxy, it stands to reason that humanity during its golden age had likely carried through and did it.
 
Durin told us that the Eldar Fleet with the defenses that Muselphiem has would be able to wipe out the Abomination fleet in less than a week. So concentrating what is left of the Eldar Fleet there means we only have to hold out at Asgard fro about two weeks.
I mean, sure? If he told that during initial deployment, then it means half of the Eldar host would also do the job, because Muspelheim DarkMech is almost sure to lose more than 50% in 6 days of fighting in orbit.
 
1. if abbadon is alone you would need a crit in the right place but could win. (assuming black crystal). If he has any guards at all no
1ii three to all
2. yes
Fecking Cadia stood that long against that?? *Whistles* Granted the entire Imperium would mobilize but hot damn. He's probably in the 4th tier of heroes just because of all his Paragon's. And his Black Imperium is the main galactic power that is nearby and we'll have to contend with eventually?

Fecking Turoq was a huge problem for us, we have a shit ton of leveling to do.
 
Fecking Turoq was a huge problem for us, we have a shit ton of leveling to do.
Well, assuming we can survive unmolested by him for a couple of centuries we'll have been able to build up a massive powerbase, and share our tech with a huge mass of friendly powers. Not to mention that the Eldar will likely continue to be in the ascendant, and would doubtless be willing to lend their aid to taking him out and beheading the Black Imperium when the time comes. When we do have a confrontation with him, the odds will naturally have levelled out a lot more.
 
Well, assuming we can survive unmolested by him for a couple of centuries we'll have been able to build up a massive powerbase, and share our tech with a huge mass of friendly powers. Not to mention that the Eldar will likely continue to be in the ascendant, and would doubtless be willing to lend their aid to taking him out and beheading the Black Imperium when the time comes. When we do have a confrontation with him, the odds will naturally have levelled out a lot more.
I know that we all want to destroy the Black Imperium, but the thing is, I don't know doing so would be safe for the Galaxy at large. Say what you will about Abbadon, but he and his imperium are filling part of the vacuum that was left when the Emperor died. What that means is that he and his forces are fighting against Galaxy level threats such as the orcs and tyranids. Were he and his Imperium decapitated today, all of those threats would be much more free to act as they will.

The Sane Powers of the Galaxy do not yet have the power to fight all of them, they have their own issues right now.
 
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