Durin told us a while back. Before the war turns, IIRC.
@Durin, can you confirm that EM and AM prices are still going to be lowered, and that we should be able to fund the Helguard upkeep with what we can trade for?
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Durin told us a while back. Before the war turns, IIRC.
@Durin, can you confirm that EM and AM prices are still going to be lowered, and that we should be able to fund the Helguard upkeep with what we can trade for?
Doomed Wombat
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No they told us not to give them human tech cause that's meant to be holier they don't give a shit about quartok cause it's filthy xeno tech. And you they created a council to oversee this stuff and they think it's fine.
But there comes a point where it's counter productive and think you are seriously underestimating how much of their bs was to make sure no one else could threaten their monopoly insert other things, but I amboth on the phone and inebriated to put down sorry.
That is the problem we need Am and Em to keep expanding our forge cities and forges too as well as the hives and various other projects. Titans look like they will cost so much. We should wait and make sure we will have enough because we are at 106 gdp and do not know what all we can trade. Also we are reaching the point where we have to start paying interest on what we owe.
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Is there a rule against inebriated posting... cause if so I can stop...
Again, still doesn't make sense to me. I know human tech is more holy, but given history how in the flying fuck is uplifting xenos to a level of tech that's roughly Imperial level even remotely not a big deal?
We will be able to vastly increase the amount we get from trade in this coming turn, due to the price decreasing.
Nope there is not
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@Enjou
Few optimization options.
There are a few unused double downs. For simplicity, here's a list for all six years:
Y1: Unused
Y2: Titan design (machine spirit, but odds are good we'll need to repeat the body design action instead)
Y3 : Unused
Y4: Unused, could be Siren Rune of Focus (already likely to pass, but crits are better) without changing things
Y5: Religious Gods
Y6: Bio-laser Implants
If you have Xavier spend Y1 researching Illusion Pines (something we haven't done, feeds from his illusion and research abilities, and could benefit the admin action) we could easily throw a DD there, have him spend Y2 tutoring the Alpha candidates, and start the Hellflame compression Y3 with a DD. Sure, it ultimately delays the Hellflame compression by a year, but given the relatively low odds of success on it without DD combined with the benefit of fitting in some research we've been meaning to do anyway with another DD...
Few optimization options.
There are a few unused double downs. For simplicity, here's a list for all six years:
Y1: Unused
Y2: Titan design (machine spirit, but odds are good we'll need to repeat the body design action instead)
Y3 : Unused
Y4: Unused, could be Siren Rune of Focus (already likely to pass, but crits are better) without changing things
Y5: Religious Gods
Y6: Bio-laser Implants
If you have Xavier spend Y1 researching Illusion Pines (something we haven't done, feeds from his illusion and research abilities, and could benefit the admin action) we could easily throw a DD there, have him spend Y2 tutoring the Alpha candidates, and start the Hellflame compression Y3 with a DD. Sure, it ultimately delays the Hellflame compression by a year, but given the relatively low odds of success on it without DD combined with the benefit of fitting in some research we've been meaning to do anyway with another DD...
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While the price is going to decrease the amount we can buy and what else we can trade wil also decrease than. Right now we have very little to trade until the hyper juvent comes online.
Essentially if am and Em are going down in price so is everything else so we will have to trade more to get the same amount of credits as last time.
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- Australia
No. Religious Gods is more important.
@Enjou, please do Religious Gods. The beliefs of the allied races of the tau have created a God of the Greater Good in canon. We need to find out whether or not our worship of a being who effectively doesn't exist is creating a new deity.
Creating religious rituals for non-theological reasons is either blasphemy or heresy.
I mean that said you're plan is still one I'm considering due to your inclusion of the Phoenix gunship and Armageddon, I'm not going to throw a fit about the helguard expansion.
Because we are so far ahead of Imperial level that "inferior dirty xenotech" isn't a big deal and the fact the natives don't want to really leave Avernus is probably what they care about.
Doomed Wombat
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Cause these guys don't wanna leave we get awesome stuff outta them without needing to compromise morals and they're probably the Xenia species with the best record I mean they defended Lin they helped Jacob and we've never fought them and likely never will.
Also I'm pretty sure durin said somewhere they'd refuse warp drive tech.
Wait really? Also no we can always do them later I want Lin to figure out how ridcully can transcend and if safe get us the know how to do so asap.
And the bible was't translated out of Latin and spoken in Latin for thousands of years why?
Sure it was justified theological, but the real reason was to ensure only priests and those trained by them could read and interpret the book in other words to maintain their authority and monopoly on the faith.
The admech were and still are vicious about ensuring their monopoly remains intact, why else would they ensure that they and only they can mass produce most of the advanced tech? Why do they get a monopoly on communication with their machine spirits oh right, because their advanced vi that live only in advanced tech not every rusty door frame.
Then we'll go further into debt. Which is NOT a big deal. It's not ideal, sure, but given Muspelheim and Niflheim are allies, and they know they're helping fund a war machine that helps keep them safe it's not like I expect they'll make a huge fuss about it.
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NO. The Emperor did not want to become a god. He does not like that he is becoming a god. We should not make Ridcully into a god because of the belief that it's better to be a god than a human, something that the Emperor thinks is stupid and wrong.
@Enjou ok think of it like these. With the colonies coming online and with the core worlds bringing even more industry online our buying power is also going to decrease. The colonies are going to drive down the credit we get for most of our trade. So while AM and EM is going to down our buying power is also going to go down since we do not have that much that is valuable to trade for AM and EM. I think we should wait till we find out how much we can get without going overboard on buying since than We will have to pay interest on.
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My next idea for a WMD to worry about would be some sort of mobile warprift projector, like a vortex weapon or distortion cannon, but instead of being used for destruction it is used to summon colossal hordes of daemons. Think moving Daemonic incursion event and you get the general idea.
Edit, also to the thread, should we be worried about the fact that warpstone is now an inevitability? Can we scry the stuff and start on countermeasures?
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Doomed Wombat
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Lin's fine with it the emperor got over and has accepted his role and Ridcully's fine with it so long as his personality isn't affected.
As for god's being better than humans, who said that I think a human with the power of a god is better than a human alone. We don't have room to be picky if we can get our hands on a literal god of divination loyal to the trust and able to do things like divine isha with no risk of capture.
He does so long as his personality is' too altered so how about we find that out yeah?
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- The Void
[X] Plan Enjou T111
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- USA
So going back to the last trade session at the high council it looks like we were importing 73,000 out of a max of 158,000 leaving 85,000 assuming EM available for trade keeps the same. With a current net of 28,476 a year that would be 113,476. Actions underway have a new EM upkeep of 12,750. That gives us a max of 102,476 in additional upkeep before we go negative (though we will not want to do that or we run into the situation of having very little in terms of EM stockpile to pay for action costs plus if amount of EM decrease we run into trouble). Expand Helguard is 27,000 leaves us with 75,476, with other actions in Enjou's plan we drop to 72,781 at max. Though we are unlocking several EM upkeep actions this turn (tyrant lizard cybernetics, bio-laser implants, titans are further down range but something we should account for) not to mention an increasing drain for each city we expand into a small hive (not sure how many we have left to do).
Also @Enjou you have two actions upgrading Signe's Choice to a small hive in the personal section, was one of those supposed to be a different city?
Also @Enjou you have two actions upgrading Signe's Choice to a small hive in the personal section, was one of those supposed to be a different city?
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The more I think about it the more I am sure that the Tzeentchian superweapon is aimed at us indirectly.
Tzeentch wants humans off of the planet, but doesn't want to send a daemonic incusion into this blender. And for any other force to be brought in to overwhelm us it'd have to get through the Imperial Trust first.
Therefore its short term goals should be aimed at striking the two planetary weakpoints of the Trust, Midgard and Vanahiem.
The simplest way would be a cyclonic torpedo or equivalent aimed at Midgard, but that doesn't feel like a sure thing because it isn't climactic enough to play off of rule of cool or cosmic horror. On the other hand some sort of mass daemon manifestation aid would be seriously useful for them because Tzeentch itself is interested in killing us off, so would be willing to throw unusually large and powerful forces of daemons at us if they can be manifested.
Tzeentch wants humans off of the planet, but doesn't want to send a daemonic incusion into this blender. And for any other force to be brought in to overwhelm us it'd have to get through the Imperial Trust first.
Therefore its short term goals should be aimed at striking the two planetary weakpoints of the Trust, Midgard and Vanahiem.
The simplest way would be a cyclonic torpedo or equivalent aimed at Midgard, but that doesn't feel like a sure thing because it isn't climactic enough to play off of rule of cool or cosmic horror. On the other hand some sort of mass daemon manifestation aid would be seriously useful for them because Tzeentch itself is interested in killing us off, so would be willing to throw unusually large and powerful forces of daemons at us if they can be manifested.
[X] Plan Nurgle T111
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- western US
I'm pretty sure we get got full rights to everything the Quartok have when they got the FIRST city. so we don't have to ask their permission nor even consider giving them a second city. (not that I am apposed to the idea of giving them another city mind you....just apposed to wasting a action on something we don't need to do.
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[X] Plan Nurgle T111
As much as I want to expand the Helguard I think we should wait until after the meeting.
As much as I want to expand the Helguard I think we should wait until after the meeting.