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Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)

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HanEmpire said:
Wonder what the Council of Matriarchs are up to these days. They must be running some deep social engineering to check Humanity's rise and keep the Asari on top. What could it be?
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Asari think in terms of centuries. I imagine that while Humanity's/PI and Revy's rise is causing concerns, they are considering their long-term advantages. Their element zero reserves, their considerable advantages in the business, political, and galactic institutions. Their tech advantages in fields that PI is not focusing on. Not to mention the fact that PI's profits do depend on access to Citadel markets, which the Asari hold considerable influence on. Also, the Asari don't know of eternal youth yet so they might think that they can simply outlive Shepard.

I imagine that alarm bells will begin to ring once we work on producing artificial element zero and other such tech that would intuitively negate the long-term factors in favor of Asari. But the Asari's first course of action is diplomacy. Not violence. And PI will gain a lot of Asari good will once we release the Asari gene treatments.
 
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Plus, why would the Asari be adversarial? They're still winning.

They have good relations with Humanity and Revy is still selling her products to the Citadel which benefits them since it strengthens the Citadel against its enemies (not to mention the Asari practically rule the Citadel Alliance... alongside the Turians and Salarians).

So no need for them to be too worried. We're feeding into the system which just so happens to also feed into the Asari Republics and props everything up.

They're the ultimate winners of all this.
 
Slayer 10321 said:
Plus, why would the Asari be adversarial? They're still winning.

They have good relations with Humanity and Revy is still selling her products to the Citadel which benefits them since it strengthens the Citadel against its enemies (not to mention the Asari practically rule the Citadel Alliance... alongside the Turians and Salarians).

So no need for them to be too worried. We're feeding into the system which just so happens to also feed into the Asari Republics and props everything up.

They're the ultimate winners of all this.
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they have been shown to be slightly adversarial in the previous threads
 
Slayer 10321 said:
Wasn't that only some of them (Benezia and Co.)?

Considering how fractious the Republics are, there would be lots of divergent opinions and beliefs.
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yeah, but most matriarchs roughly in the same age range, so most of them, the most important, rich, and influential ones are gonna be of mostly the same mindset except for the outliers
 
Honestly speaking, I don't see alot of benefit in converting the Peak Human Treatment for Asari, when compared to the Volus. Main reason is the Asari's life span. With the Salarians and with the Turians, I could understand given that Salarians have a shorter life span, whereas Turians are more comparable to humans. Asari though have life spans that reaches millennia, which is a very long time. So long that unless Peak Human is adding a very substantial life span, I don't really see Asari being as appreciative.

The races who would have more appreciation over the life extension treatment tend to be the ones who have shorter lives. I don't know how long is the Volus, but I'm certain it is shorter than the Asari.

As for potential rewards, Asari and Volus in my opinion rank about equal to me. Asari play a major role in Politics, science, and military. Meanwhile, Volus are intrinsically tied to the Citadel's economy and are also a client of the Turians. If we had to choose who to give Peak treatment to first, I'd pick Volus because of lifespan.
 
peak treatment is not just lifespan extension or even the main purpose of it, its just more of a very beneficial side effect.
 
@Nalanaya
Well yes... the citadel council and their component governments are aware of the blatant social engineering Revvy is pulling, and it's part of why they aren't panicking. While there are problematic aspects to humanity's rapid rise, it's being overseen by someone who appears to be invested in the whole galactic community plan they have going.
 
I don't think the Vorcha have even been discovered yet. Pretty sure first contact was while Shepard was iced between games.

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Yep. Vorcha were only discovered in 2184. Raloi discovered by Asari in the same year actually, huh.
 
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I want to fix the Genophage so that the Krogan breed like humans, instead of producing piles of dead babies constantly. The mental scarring of prospective parents is why their culture is so decayed and shredded after all.

How many more pro-Salarian moves do we need to make to make the STG less paranoid about us?
 
Hellteddy said:
Do Peak Vorcha next.

That would get us some hilarious reactions. :V
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You'd joke about it, but if we figure out a way to extend the Vorcha lifespan, not only do we get the opportunity to train Vorcha in tasks outside of violent meatshields, but instead as very skilled engineers, disciplined pilots, etc but we also probably get the chance to see political development of a significant population of Vorcha outside the violent stage of might makes right that develops from a shitty upbringing.
 
HanEmpire said:
I want to fix the Genophage so that the Krogan breed like humans, instead of producing piles of dead babies constantly. The mental scarring of prospective parents is why their culture is so decayed and shredded after all.

How many more pro-Salarian moves do we need to make to make the STG less paranoid about us?
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I honestly think the first step would be talking to Mordin about it, but if we can do it the I feel like we might have to get the whole Council on board if we want to fix them as a race.

Maybe start of with Wrex and his clan to try and stabilize their race and bring some order to their planet?
 
HanEmpire said:
I want to fix the Genophage so that the Krogan breed like humans, instead of producing piles of dead babies constantly. The mental scarring of prospective parents is why their culture is so decayed and shredded after all.

How many more pro-Salarian moves do we need to make to make the STG less paranoid about us?
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STG isn't that paranoid of us. After all, they have an STG agent who is a well-respected researcher and company employee within Paragon Industries. Paranoia implies that they have something to fear from us when STG is already well aware of PI's intentions and plans for future technological developments. Salarians and STG would be paranoid if they didn't have any information on the inner workings of PI.

STG might not be able to effectively conduct corporate espionage on PI because their sole mole is Mordin, who comes with his own morals and skillset, plus our efforts to prevent corporate espionage. But at the very least, STG knows what Revy Shepard intends to do with PI before the wider public, and STG has a lot of intel regarding PI's plans for genetic treatments due to Mordin. As I said previously, the STG's stamp of approval on PI's genetic treatments is what convinced the Turian and Salarian Governments to accept the genetic treatments.

That alone buys a lot of goodwill with STG, and we don't even realize it is happening.
 
macdjord said:
Nah. Peak Batarian~
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That seems like it'd be at the bottom of Revy's to-do list. I'm not saying she holds a grudge, mind, but due to certain political realities there are other species that are going to be at a higher priority to improve and prolong the lifespan of than the people who *checks notes* attempted to kill and enslave her friends and family for decades and who sponsor pirate attacks against people just like her.

So yeah, they're probably lower priority than the Quarians and Krogan. And Vorcha. And dogs. And Ebola virus. Lower priority than doing 'literally nothing' at this point. Still, she is a kind and just soul; she very probably won't release a bioweapon tailored to Batarian DNA.
 
Parzival95 said:
I could easily see the ardat-yakshi being the result of the protheans unfinished work. Being able to kill other people to increase your powers is some cultivation shit.

Not really sure how that works when they kill non-biotics; but ardat-yakshis beginning as a failed Asari super soldier deal could work.
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tri2 said:
yeah, if you keep the prothean desire for a successor warrior race army in mind, the ardat yakshi sounds like the asari version of a super soldier but with a built in replication limiter to make sure it does not reproduce, letting the asari race to naturally create super soldiers that could get stronger by devouring all of their weaker fellows if needed in order to fight the armies of the reapers or even the reapers themselves.
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w34v3r said:
This is probable, seems like a prothean version of the tree of life virus that Niven humanity used in the Kzin wars, or the adeptus astartes from 40k.
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Well, I don´t think that the Prothean would do that since they are extremely bad optimized to be soldiers/warriors
  • First of all, they are rare, like extremely rare IIRC the Samara's daughters were the last Ardat-Yakshi born in centuries, that alone makes them extremely bad candidates for supersoldiers (even worse if they are sterile) you want an army not a handful of them each century
  • Second, they don't get stronger by killing and "absorbing" people, they have to mate with them to do so (and since they don't suck the souls of their victims or anything like that, they cause them massive brain strokes I am not so sure how much of the "each kill makes them stronger" is real or legend), so it doesn't seem like the best mechanism to make a supersoldier stronger.
  • And finally, the power of "dominating minds" is actually an awful fit for a supersoldier... You need to keep the supersoldiers under control, not the other way around... Their powers makes them great as serial murderers, but not much else.
It is certainly possible that the origin of the Ardat-Yakshi comes from the Protheans meddling with Asari... BUT I seriously doubt that it comes from an intentional supersoldier program for the reasons above, and I find it much more likely that it during the DNA altering process they ended up unintetionally damaging other genes... Something similar to the 4% Neanderthal DNA present in our DNA and that is associated with several health problems (cancer, madness, heart diseases...) because are damaged and incomplete gene sequences that unlike the Neanderthal we cannot make good use of them.
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
  • First of all, they are rare, like extremely rare IIRC the Samara's daughters were the last Ardat-Yakshi born in centuries, that alone makes them extremely bad candidates for supersoldiers (even worse if they are sterile) you want an army not a handful of them each century
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I don't think Samara's daughters were the last Ardat's in centuries since we do see a lot more of them and IIRC it was mentioned that there were Asari's whose job it was to track down those that were off the record. I think the retcon was that her daughters are the only ones she actually knew about.
 
Red Bovine said:
I don't think Samara's daughters were the last Ardat's in centuries since we do see a lot more of them and IIRC it was mentioned that there were Asari's whose job it was to track down those that were off the record. I think the retcon was that her daughters are the only ones she actually knew about.
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I cannot find the clip right now, but I am pretty sure that in ME2 when Samara tells you about Morinth for the first time she tells something pretty similar to that...

Edit: well @Red Bovine according to the wiki around 1% of the Asari had the Ardat-Yakshi gene, but Samara's daughters are the only ones in several centuries that had the fully lethal version of the disease... Probably the rest of the Asari's with the gene are either carriers, or less severe cases in which they can damage their partners while mating, but not lethally.
 
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Slamu said:
That seems like it'd be at the bottom of Revy's to-do list. I'm not saying she holds a grudge, mind, but due to certain political realities there are other species that are going to be at a higher priority to improve and prolong the lifespan of than the people who *checks notes* attempted to kill and enslave her friends and family for decades and who sponsor pirate attacks against people just like her.

So yeah, they're probably lower priority than the Quarians and Krogan. And Vorcha. And dogs. And Ebola virus. Lower priority than doing 'literally nothing' at this point. Still, she is a kind and just soul; she very probably won't release a bioweapon tailored to Batarian DNA.
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Probably higher than Reapers though, so there's that. Then again, anything is better than Reapers to be honest.
 
thing is, the reason for lower ardat yakshi rates is because asari try to mate with other races, if they focused only on mating with other asari the rate of AY would rise a lot. also maybe the mind domination was for AY to become commanders leading all of their lessers? plus since asari can mate with each other to essentially asexually reproduce and then feed an AY to make them stronger it is viable if you let the base asari population double long enough to consistently feed a AY per day, since it takes time for them to 'feed' so there is a max cap of asari they can consume per day so once a certain population mass is reached they could support growing AY's strength while still growing the rest of the population.
 
Does anyone know what happens when an AY mates with another AY? Like do they both live and make a viable offspring, cause if they can that would imply it's not a genetic defect but a natural part of the Asari and not something the Peak treatments would fix.

I have never read or seen anything about a child of two AY's and the only examples we have to go on are Morinth who was on the run and likely never met another of her kind and a bunch who lived in a monastery who had tightly controlled schedules and monitored around the clock.
 
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