Ah but that's where you're wrong!
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Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution
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Ah but that's where you're wrong!
*points to my and Hoyr's signatures*
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last i recall, it's functionally hard capped per planet, and then there are diminishing returns from the fact that Most of our awesome comes from Revy directly, and she can only personally supervise so much. (sticking research heroes in charge of facilities helps a bit i think? at least with stuff in their field. there's a trade off of some sort there, though.)
And, of course, a PI lab is a big target, so any lab needs to be part of a well defended base, which for a variety of reasons it's not worth it unless we also build factories there (which suffer a similar limitation per planet), but factories are awesome so that's fine, just makes the setup cost a bit bigger.
That's what I remember, anyway.
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A good corollary to this is to make sure that every research hero that we acquire has more than 3200 RP worth of research projects in their personal sub-tree (10d10+25 averages 80 RP/quarter, times 4 quarters times 10 years till Reapers). This will ensure that each hero actually increases the total size of the tree over what they are personally able to research, again ensuring that we won't be able to cover the entire tree before the Reapers come. Essentially we players become spoiled for choices, even if we're acquiring more total techs in the end.
Speaking of the tech tree, @Hoyr I was wondering if the tech tree would look better if it was organized left-to-right, the way it's done in Stark Transcendent, rather than top-to-bottom the way it is here? Most of the boxes are much wider than they are tall, and the tree itself is wider than it is tall, so it would probably fit better on the screen if everything were shifted around that way.
I wonder.....
One of the problems of using Biotics is that it runs on the metabolism of the person using it.
Shoving a dark matter reactor/battery into the amp should only go so far...
So what I'm trying to say is...is it possible to get a Biotic to 'run' off a miniture Arc Reactor once we fix the catalyst problem and maybe artificial biotics plus...something else?
One of the problems of using Biotics is that it runs on the metabolism of the person using it.
Shoving a dark matter reactor/battery into the amp should only go so far...
So what I'm trying to say is...is it possible to get a Biotic to 'run' off a miniture Arc Reactor once we fix the catalyst problem and maybe artificial biotics plus...something else?
- Location
- Somewhere, probably Earth
Actually, with Peak Human treatment, could we alter a person's metabolism to be more...iunno the word, manual?
Just have them swallow down a bag of pure sugar, then suddenly their biotics reach bullshit tier.
- Location
- U.S.
commander: Alenko are you snorting cocaine?
alenko: no commander I am snorting sugar, it's for combat purposes.
commaner: ok, carry on
alenko: *snorts deeply* that was a close one.
More likely a triggered implant to dump the real vent surclus right into the blood stream.
- Location
- Somewhere, probably Earth
That's great for a short burst...maybe if we go deeper into Xenobiology, we can get a better look at how biotics work across all organisms? With Peak Human, we can modify the human body to do whatever we want so long as we know what we're doing.
Well...the definition of 'peak human' in regards to biotics -is- kinda fuzzy, due to the actual use of biotics is only considered 'recent'...
There really isn't enough data to outright indicate guys who can be considered as 'the highest mankind can reach' benchmark.
Although Kaidan and Revy can technically be considered as those benchmarks, as Kaidan is supposedly capable of matching an Asari Commando and Shepard's Biotic backstory supposedly claims that she is even better than he is, due to being able to match him with the weaker, but more stable L3 implant.
With the MAGI implant, however, it's a bit up in the air.
There really isn't enough data to outright indicate guys who can be considered as 'the highest mankind can reach' benchmark.
Although Kaidan and Revy can technically be considered as those benchmarks, as Kaidan is supposedly capable of matching an Asari Commando and Shepard's Biotic backstory supposedly claims that she is even better than he is, due to being able to match him with the weaker, but more stable L3 implant.
With the MAGI implant, however, it's a bit up in the air.
...rogue planets terraformed to support life and connected to the wider galaxy only by means of QEC comms?
"You're a loose cannon Okeer! But you're a damn fine cop-cop-cop-cop-cop-cop municipal ordinance enforcement technician."
"Damn VI's on the fritz again, boss."
Not sure I want to recruit him or if I want to put his brain in a jar and recruit that instead. Anyone know what the Citadel's stance on citizenship rights of brains in jars is?
Food I imagine could be done with krill-vats hooked up to a supply of nutrients with an energy input (ie, lamps). It's not exactly filet mignon, but it keeps body and soul together. You'd probably have better quality control that way too (even if you're more likely to go with some other lab-grown food that you can pump out fairly easily).
On a related note, how much good does this tech do for the Drell homeworld?
We keep helping out the Hanar like this and they very well might declare Revy their God.
*Whistles innocently*
I recall organizing it that way at first and It wasn't good for some reason. *Plays with yEd* Oh yeah Items with multiple requirements didn't want to display nice and the line would insist on link the top and bottom in the auto sort. Ultimately it would take more effort then I want to invest at the moment to rework it right now
The main benefit is that it'll (almost) never run out of power. Then benefit of a larger power source very high for the amps of most races.
Requires Extremis. (or other major body redesign)
The issue is that the human body is NOT meant for carrying current. Nerves do not work like wires do. They use a fancy polarization wave that ripples down the nerve (Action Potential). During this process ions are exchanged along the length on the nerve. If the nerve is around eezo then this exchange of ions should in theory activate it. Because of the low masses involved on the personal level the Mass Effect field can achieve impressive effects. In addition, the many source of the field can achieve interestingly complex effects.
The amp's job is to coordinate the impulses and may possibly boost the signal/power out put using small safe charges. In quest I noted that Krogan on the other hand are cheating bastards that have a secondary fluid based nervous system that can be used to conduct electricity. It still damages the body but Krogan regenerate.
Peak human does improve the body's resilience to electrical damage, but your not looking at that much. The benefit is seen in a boost to the the body (aka constitution) stat of a biotic and that stat is used to resist the negative effects of powering powerful biotic techniques.
Nope that's a training thing. A more robust metabolism is included but again the effects are covered in the increased stat. A boosted metabolism only means you can fire off more techniques not stronger ones.
Peak human doesn't do anything to biotics directly, just gives them a stronger bondy to use. The artificia biotics tech is all about that stuff. Mind together they'll allow the creation of biotics far more easily.
They're people.
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...I'm torn. Does this mean "do this" or does this mean "pay no attention to this, it is entirely too much work"?
Argh. Choices.
- Location
- United States
it could also mean that the reapers are coming sooner than 10 years
What techs could we conceivably purchase? I imagine the secrets of building bigger objects in space are known to at least a few, after all, and mass effect kinetic weapon mods writ large (vehicle sized and larger) seems like they're more of an engineering problem than a scientific one...
- Location
- U.S.
planetary sized transformers? gray goo?
- Location
- The U.P.
Well, we are her daughter's suger momma.
- Location
- Leeds
So shes our sister in law? Sugar sister in law?
How does that work exactly?
Via an escalating series of incredibly extravagant presents. With bonus points for who can embarrass Benezia more without actually getting in trouble with her.
Omake inbound!
This was only possible because of @UberJJK .
Moral Dilemma
"Thank you Ambassador Udina for coming. I can't begin to express how reassuring it is for the people of Mindoir -and Landing which was targeted so heavily- that the System Alliance took notice of what happened here," concluded the governor the official welcoming of diplomat.
It was an open secret that Udina was only here because of Paragon Industries. The Batarian focus on the most prominent arms manufacturer in Citadel space right now could not be ignored. What surprised Revy more was that Captain Anderson had followed her request and came as well under the premise to handle security of the important diplomat.
Right now she had to suffer through the official part of meet and greet where the various Important PeopleTM had the chance to secure time and/or money from the government to help with 'rebuilding' from the attack. PI, meanwhile, had already received funding to further intensify its efforts towards strengthening Midoir's ground based defenses. The local governments have, in light of the now open war, given wide allowances for construction, while in the small print the Alliance used nice, nonbinding but directive words, that implied that a good part of their money should be invested in Landing.
Further investment in defence, somewhat ironically, was a bit of an afterthought, what with the Alliance navy declaring the system important enough to permanently station a defensive fleet in orbit. If an attack ever got throught the fleet, the ground defenses will not amount to much in the face of orbital bombing, save for the Assault-tier shield over landing, one quarter away from completion. It is strange to Revy how her being here would both provoke military actions and at the same time prevent them. She was suddenly too important to be left alone and too valuable to allow dying. Those thoughts always leave a bad taste in her mouth as the people around her didn't have that advantage.
As the party neared its end Ambassador Udina and Captain Anderson approached her. After the social formalities have been completed Captain Anderson asked the question she had been waiting for: "Doctor, did you have a chance to look into the matter already?"
"Of course. I can show you my findings in my lab." Revy answered promptly.
Under the setting sun the three entered her car -stretch limousine for such official meetings- a short time later. It would take a few minutes to reach the PI complex, so Revy handed the two officials each a data pad containing her findings, for them to peruse, much to their surprise.
"I can give you the complete spiel with what all of it means in the lab but those are the important parts," she explained herself.
"Don't worry," Captain Anderson understood immediately that she had something else weighting her down, "I will make sure that such an attack on you does not happen again."
Attack on her? She could not prevent herself from looking flabbergasted at the Captain and her CASIE (un-)helpfully pointed out how wrong he was understanding it. It was only a very advanced robot that she blew up with her drones. She had barely been in any danger at all and got new toys -cough- inspiration out of it. "Thank you but I never questioned the Alliance ability to protect us all."
"War is scary. It can make you feel helpless. Especially for a hands-on person like yourself, doctor," Udina reassured her in a surprisingly soft voice, "I feel no different."
Revy was somewhat stunned by how reassuring she found the Ambassador's words. She could feel the sense of unease she'd be burdened with for some time now fade slightly. The man truly deserved his reputation as one of Earth's greatest diplomats.
Regrettably their conversation was abruptly halted by their arrival a the PI complex. Their walk to her lab was quiet, aside from the formalities of security. Her guests sat down in front of the central projector and Revy stopped short just before beginning her presentation. She felt as if she would not get another chance to pick the brains of the two men that might be able help her if she did not do it now.
"Have you heard about what the Hanar plan?" she asked with a finger hovering over the start button.
The unrelated question barely slowed the two down but Captain Anderson answered first. "Complete rebuild of their fleet. A substantial order for your company I believe."
"Not the order -I am all for business- but the way it is given. My predictions put their economy breaking under the strain of their rebuilding in the next 20 years." Revy delivers the news with a sigh. "The thing is that they treat me as a religious figure and will take probably any bid I give them. In effect I hold the future of their civilization in my hands."
Revy pauses for a moment to process the idea she held the lives of billions in her hands before continuing. "I figure I have three choices. Option one I do nothing and let the Hanar ruin their economy, option two I abuse their faith in me to get the money needed to kick Pynda production into overdrive, or option three I give them a low enough price their economy will scrape by but slow down Pynda production which could hurt the war effort." To help empathize her point Revy raised her fingers in count with her options.
"I am a hands-on person so I can't choose option one and I am in this for the science so the money of option two means little to me." Revy gestured around her lab, including in it the massive complex that is Paragon Industries. "I have the money to research. The rest I use to spread the results so everything in me screams to pick option three."
"A few weeks ago I would have. In the face of what the Hanar would lose and with the tools, money and time at my hand to prevent it. How could I not?" Revy heard her voice getting bitter. "But now we are at war with the Hegemony and I have to ask myself who would loose more. How many humans will die because I cared for another species more? How many Hanar will die when their civilization collapse?"
She fixed her two listener with pleading eyes. "How do you decide something like that? Who should live and who not? I am not a politician choosing what is best for most, not an officer ordering his men into danger." Swallowing to get her emotions back under control she continued. "Please. What do I do?"
Edit: Further corrections thanks to @TheEyes
This was only possible because of @UberJJK .
Moral Dilemma
"Thank you Ambassador Udina for coming. I can't begin to express how reassuring it is for the people of Mindoir -and Landing which was targeted so heavily- that the System Alliance took notice of what happened here," concluded the governor the official welcoming of diplomat.
It was an open secret that Udina was only here because of Paragon Industries. The Batarian focus on the most prominent arms manufacturer in Citadel space right now could not be ignored. What surprised Revy more was that Captain Anderson had followed her request and came as well under the premise to handle security of the important diplomat.
Right now she had to suffer through the official part of meet and greet where the various Important PeopleTM had the chance to secure time and/or money from the government to help with 'rebuilding' from the attack. PI, meanwhile, had already received funding to further intensify its efforts towards strengthening Midoir's ground based defenses. The local governments have, in light of the now open war, given wide allowances for construction, while in the small print the Alliance used nice, nonbinding but directive words, that implied that a good part of their money should be invested in Landing.
Further investment in defence, somewhat ironically, was a bit of an afterthought, what with the Alliance navy declaring the system important enough to permanently station a defensive fleet in orbit. If an attack ever got throught the fleet, the ground defenses will not amount to much in the face of orbital bombing, save for the Assault-tier shield over landing, one quarter away from completion. It is strange to Revy how her being here would both provoke military actions and at the same time prevent them. She was suddenly too important to be left alone and too valuable to allow dying. Those thoughts always leave a bad taste in her mouth as the people around her didn't have that advantage.
As the party neared its end Ambassador Udina and Captain Anderson approached her. After the social formalities have been completed Captain Anderson asked the question she had been waiting for: "Doctor, did you have a chance to look into the matter already?"
"Of course. I can show you my findings in my lab." Revy answered promptly.
Under the setting sun the three entered her car -stretch limousine for such official meetings- a short time later. It would take a few minutes to reach the PI complex, so Revy handed the two officials each a data pad containing her findings, for them to peruse, much to their surprise.
"I can give you the complete spiel with what all of it means in the lab but those are the important parts," she explained herself.
"Don't worry," Captain Anderson understood immediately that she had something else weighting her down, "I will make sure that such an attack on you does not happen again."
Attack on her? She could not prevent herself from looking flabbergasted at the Captain and her CASIE (un-)helpfully pointed out how wrong he was understanding it. It was only a very advanced robot that she blew up with her drones. She had barely been in any danger at all and got new toys -cough- inspiration out of it. "Thank you but I never questioned the Alliance ability to protect us all."
"War is scary. It can make you feel helpless. Especially for a hands-on person like yourself, doctor," Udina reassured her in a surprisingly soft voice, "I feel no different."
Revy was somewhat stunned by how reassuring she found the Ambassador's words. She could feel the sense of unease she'd be burdened with for some time now fade slightly. The man truly deserved his reputation as one of Earth's greatest diplomats.
Regrettably their conversation was abruptly halted by their arrival a the PI complex. Their walk to her lab was quiet, aside from the formalities of security. Her guests sat down in front of the central projector and Revy stopped short just before beginning her presentation. She felt as if she would not get another chance to pick the brains of the two men that might be able help her if she did not do it now.
"Have you heard about what the Hanar plan?" she asked with a finger hovering over the start button.
The unrelated question barely slowed the two down but Captain Anderson answered first. "Complete rebuild of their fleet. A substantial order for your company I believe."
"Not the order -I am all for business- but the way it is given. My predictions put their economy breaking under the strain of their rebuilding in the next 20 years." Revy delivers the news with a sigh. "The thing is that they treat me as a religious figure and will take probably any bid I give them. In effect I hold the future of their civilization in my hands."
Revy pauses for a moment to process the idea she held the lives of billions in her hands before continuing. "I figure I have three choices. Option one I do nothing and let the Hanar ruin their economy, option two I abuse their faith in me to get the money needed to kick Pynda production into overdrive, or option three I give them a low enough price their economy will scrape by but slow down Pynda production which could hurt the war effort." To help empathize her point Revy raised her fingers in count with her options.
"I am a hands-on person so I can't choose option one and I am in this for the science so the money of option two means little to me." Revy gestured around her lab, including in it the massive complex that is Paragon Industries. "I have the money to research. The rest I use to spread the results so everything in me screams to pick option three."
"A few weeks ago I would have. In the face of what the Hanar would lose and with the tools, money and time at my hand to prevent it. How could I not?" Revy heard her voice getting bitter. "But now we are at war with the Hegemony and I have to ask myself who would loose more. How many humans will die because I cared for another species more? How many Hanar will die when their civilization collapse?"
She fixed her two listener with pleading eyes. "How do you decide something like that? Who should live and who not? I am not a politician choosing what is best for most, not an officer ordering his men into danger." Swallowing to get her emotions back under control she continued. "Please. What do I do?"
First again I would not have been able to make this without UberJJK help.
The idea for it build over the following posts.
If playing our cards right we can ruin the Hanar.
A frightening thought but no problem because why would we do that right? Right? I mean we are only at war with the Batarians. It is not as if we suddently need all the money we can get.
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Oh right. We are at war and our contributions will affect it. We are only a seller of military goods but we have outperformed all competition in practically all important fields. Personal body armor, fighting vehicle and spacecraft (only fighter and figrates for now). In light of the situation and how much of a gamechanger our laser frigates are we and the Alliance want as many of them as they can get.
With the money from the Hanar that would be easier but it would end bad for them. But granting the Hanar discounts will hinder the support we can give in the war because we will not have the money.
I am open to solutions even if it is not as bleak as I painted it here. The deal with the Hanar is only starting in two quartals. But what is the chance that six month is enough to topple the Hegemony?
The idea for it build over the following posts.
Military is expensive and any nation trying to build it up forcefully above what they can substain will ultimately fail. That last sentence puts it quit clearly how important our choice in those comming negotiation is.
If playing our cards right we can ruin the Hanar.
A frightening thought but no problem because why would we do that right? Right? I mean we are only at war with the Batarians. It is not as if we suddently need all the money we can get.
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Oh right. We are at war and our contributions will affect it. We are only a seller of military goods but we have outperformed all competition in practically all important fields. Personal body armor, fighting vehicle and spacecraft (only fighter and figrates for now). In light of the situation and how much of a gamechanger our laser frigates are we and the Alliance want as many of them as they can get.
With the money from the Hanar that would be easier but it would end bad for them. But granting the Hanar discounts will hinder the support we can give in the war because we will not have the money.
I am open to solutions even if it is not as bleak as I painted it here. The deal with the Hanar is only starting in two quartals. But what is the chance that six month is enough to topple the Hegemony?
Edit: Further corrections thanks to @TheEyes
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- Location
- Leeds
Good omake.
The big problem is going to be cutting enough of our techs loose from Alliance-only status to make our offerings compelling to the Hanar. Gigawatt lasers will be paramount in this consideration, as it will allow us to give the Hanar a dreadnought-crushing fleet without breaking their budget. Frankly lasers as offensive weapons are mostly a gimmick anyway; every starship in existence already has the capability of producing rudimentary TIR shielding, so it's only a matter of time until lasers are once again ineffective against capital ships.
Repulsors, on the other hand, may not be as important; we can probably license the Salarian high-yield ion drive instead, improve on it a little with our metamaterials, and get a respectable drive without releasing that technology to a wider market.
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Very nice.
To address the second part first. Not the best. If the SA gets lucky they might be able to destroy the Batarian main fleet in 6 months.
As to the bleakness I'm not sure how much the money from the Hanar is going to effect the near term development of your production. Recall that it takes 3 quarters for a Factory III (no trying to cheat by building lots of Factory Is please?) to come online. Thus the Hanar Deal is going to, at best, matter 5 quarters from now. The question is will your ability to produce war materials be a major bottle neck at that point? Which depend on how the war goes. It could have devolved to mostly planetary battles at that point. Or it may not.
I seem to recall plans in the works to massively expand production in the near future. I imagine some one would have to spend a lot of time looking at table and doing extimates on the duration of the war to find out how much it matters. As well as figuring out the relative impact of the contract on PI's finds. (Not doing that now... some one else can if they wish.)
It may remain merely a case of isn't it lucky that the timing of this didn't work out worse.