Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution

Last tab of the financial spreadsheet has some building costs.

City Shields start at 1 billion, with x10, x50, x100, x10,000 multipliers to upgrade them to Assault Grade, Bombardment Grade, Enduring Grade, and "What Attack?" Grade respectively.


Huh. That's almost affordable in a couple of turns. No selling orbital attacks is really going to annoy the Reapers.

It might also get cheaper once we get artificial Eezoo and the mining spree.


Shut up. If we don't acknowledge it, it might go away.


Maybe foreshadowing the war against the Batarians kicking off at the end of the turn. Cloudy Sky describes everyone arming themselves.

Then comes the Anhur intervention, selling fleets worth of revolutionary warships and so on.
 
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If we ever get hit in the face with an Event that involve combat with advanced enough ordinance against us to endanger the Mark 1.75d and we still don't have the Mark 2, I will laugh my fucking ass off, fair warning.
It wouldn't matter regardless, since we don't know how much stronger the mark II is compared to the 1.X, of it it even is stronger (the suitcase version is definitely going to be weaker). The fact is that we haven't statted out the Legionary in combat stats, so comparisons are always going to be vague and fairly meaningless at this stage.

On the other hand, our new laser frigates are single handedly turning us into a strategic power, and we've built enough drones in the last few quarters to swamp anything but a massed invasion, which can't happen thanks to the two fleets in orbit (ours and the SA's). If we need to jump in a suit this quarter then there's likely something so badly wrong we probably will want to be in something other than a suit anyway, like a Tiger or a Pynda.
 
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we could research the MK 2 legionary however we are bound by contract with HK giving them exclusivity on the legionary armor iirc until 2275 so we couldn't do anything with the mk 2 until the contract runs out. therefore I feel that researching the MK 2 should be left until after the contract runs out or is about to and can start building them ourselves right as the contract runs out
 
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we could research the MK 2 legionary however we are bound by contract with HK giving them exclusivity on the legionary armor iirc until 2275 so we couldn't do anything with the mk 2 until the contract runs out. therefore I feel that researching the MK 2 should be left until after the contract runs out or is about to and can start building them ourselves right as the contract runs out

Actually the MK 2 armor is technically different enough from MK 1 legionary armor that we could sell them ourselves without legal problems and the players made sure we could this early on when making the contract.
 
we could research the MK 2 legionary however we are bound by contract with HK giving them exclusivity on the legionary armor iirc until 2275 so we couldn't do anything with the mk 2 until the contract runs out. therefore I feel that researching the MK 2 should be left until after the contract runs out or is about to and can start building them ourselves right as the contract runs out
The contract restricts the selling of the armor to others, not production for in house use. we could make all the mk2s we want, and avoid any legal issues by not selling them. We can either use them ourselves (which i dont see why we wouldnt) or build a stockpile to sell after the contract expires.
 
It wouldn't matter regardless, since we don't know how much stronger the mark II is compared to the 1.X, of it it even is stronger (the suitcase version is definitely going to be weaker). The fact is that we haven't statted out the Legionary in combat stats, so comparisons are always going to be vague and fairly meaningless at this stage.
Didn't Hoyr point out some specific things that aren't properly integrated in the Mk. 1.75 suit recently? That at least gives us a few things that will provide significant improvement (we're only using our improved materials for armor, for one thing). It also opens up room for more techs to integrate (e.g. Invisible Man, mini-lasers, gen 2 Arc Reactors, artificial biotics).
 
Yeah, I think next turn we could safely delay advanced xenobiology and make a leap towards model 2, with integrated everything. Just so the militaries of the galaxy could rage even more.
 
Yeah, I think next turn we could safely delay advanced xenobiology and make a leap towards model 2, with integrated everything. Just so the militaries of the galaxy could rage even more.
We have so many more useful things to invest in, though, that it's hard to justify.

Miniaturized energy weapons let us build man portable GARDIAN-grade laser weapons.


Advanced xeno should give us access to blue box AIs, which should in turn either give a straight research boost, or give us Cortana the research hero.

UV lasers will let us flat out outrange MACs, while high GW lasers can combine with mini DEWs do we can put 100+ GW lasers in our 100m frigates.

The Mark II just doesn't make sense right now.
 
We have so many more useful things to invest in, though, that it's hard to justify.

Miniaturized energy weapons let us build man portable GARDIAN-grade laser weapons.


Advanced xeno should give us access to blue box AIs, which should in turn either give a straight research boost, or give us Cortana the research hero.

UV lasers will let us flat out outrange MACs, while high GW lasers can combine with mini DEWs do we can put 100+ GW lasers in our 100m frigates.

The Mark II just doesn't make sense right now.

Well for one thing our PI Ships have been stated by WOG to already be far superior to anything everyone else has and unlike the MK 1 armor they are recent enough that the other races haven't even be able to try to catch up yet. Also in the case of another combat event having the vastly superior armor will up our survival odds. There is also the fact with the Batarian war coming up that they have been trying to catch up and even if their tech doesn't nearly compare to our armor we can expect causualties. If we start production of the armor now we may be able to provide them just enough to provide a massive curbstomp on the ground when the war start, you seem to not realise that most of the war wont be fought in space.
 
Well for one thing our PI Ships have been stated by WOG to already be far superior to anything everyone else has and unlike the MK 1 armor they are recent enough that the other races haven't even be able to try to catch up yet. Also in the case of another combat event having the vastly superior armor will up our survival odds. There is also the fact with the Batarian war coming up that they have been trying to catch up and even if their tech doesn't nearly compare to our armor we can expect causualties. If we start production of the armor now we may be able to provide them just enough to provide a massive curbstomp on the ground when the war start, you seem to not realise that most of the war wont be fought in space.

Except that on the ground, the Alliance fields Legionaries, Tigers and whatever else we can give them in the meantime.

The Alliance fields hundreds of thousands Legionaries. The Batarians can only field their homegrown stuff as we didn't sell them Arc Reactors. At most, theirs are powered by Dark Energy reactor we made open source, but even that is doubtful. They also lack all the other stuff developed for the Legionary.

And to get into a ground battle, they have to bypass the fleet in orbit, which will be a tall order when the Pydnas are fielded. If they slip troops in without orbital supremacy, they get bombed/lasered from orbit.

The only thing the Batarians have going for them is strategic depth as they have been starfaring for millenia already. They can afford losses the Alliance can't, but at the same time, they are economically bleeding out. Slavery was never competitive with modern industry in the first place. That they then isolated themselves just hurt them more. So I expect lots of conscripts with reasonably good gear thrown at us.

But those conscripts are also facing the Accipters, which are tough beasts in their own right and faster to produce.


And in case of personal combat, I expect Revy to do the smart thing and run.

Or hide in her underground bunker. We sid build one, didn't we?
 
we could research the MK 2 legionary however we are bound by contract with HK giving them exclusivity on the legionary armor iirc until 2275 so we couldn't do anything with the mk 2 until the contract runs out. therefore I feel that researching the MK 2 should be left until after the contract runs out or is about to and can start building them ourselves right as the contract runs out
Yeah, we're fine if we don't sell them under the legionary trademark.
That said HK will feel we pulled a real dick move if we start selling Centurion suits before their contract expires.
 
Well for one thing our PI Ships have been stated by WOG to already be far superior to anything everyone else has and unlike the MK 1 armor they are recent enough that the other races haven't even be able to try to catch up yet. Also in the case of another combat event having the vastly superior armor will up our survival odds. There is also the fact with the Batarian war coming up that they have been trying to catch up and even if their tech doesn't nearly compare to our armor we can expect causualties. If we start production of the armor now we may be able to provide them just enough to provide a massive curbstomp on the ground when the war start, you seem to not realise that most of the war wont be fought in space.
Outside of movies, when it comes to ground warfare, "Drone better."
 
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