The Yanga can transform into a tank. The insurgents have a tank. Maybe they'd be interested in another tank.

I propose we engineer a situation in which they'd leave the camp to go purchase/steal/acquire a second tank that popped up for sale on vbay, allowing us to move the war daemon right into the heart of their camp and giving us a really solid distraction for the actual exfiltration.

Thoughts?
 
The Raid:
[x] (?) Making a feint so that the camp is less guarded (write-in: What kind of feint?)
[x] (?) Using guile to infiltrate, like talking your way in, bringing a Technocratic 'hostage' or two, and hoping you can lie your ass off.


Combine these two. The "feint" is having the IBM use its heavy assets to crush the vampire party we bugged and the Rogue Council server farm under the house. We talk our way into the RC compound by tipping them off about the raid and providing them with information on details and force composition... information that we had the IBM folks tailor so that the RC assets attempting to set up a trap for our side are actually walking into a trap themselves, and will be slaughtered.

Wufan/Elsa's Suspicion:
[x] (1.2x) Yes


But in a smart way, by first raising the issue of what the Rogue Council is. Once Jamelia says (albeit in greater detail) "the RC is what happened to the old Archmasters of the Traditions after the Dimensional Anomaly trapped them in the Deep Universe and they succumbed to Void Adaptation," they can try to obliquely hint that the same thing happened to Control. At which point Jamelia tells them she's encountered and fought agents of every single portion of Threat Null, she knows what Threat Null is, and the Void Engineers could really use some help setting up the secret conspiracy thing because right now it's obvious they aren't that good at it.

Insurgent-Brutalizing Materiel:
[x] Ghost: Mil Mi-24I Hind (IBM Variant)* + 4 Commando Skins
Mil Mi-24I Hind (IBM Variant): IBM has modified this Hind to run off of a fusion power source for unlimited range and boosted performance. They've replaced its metal skin with radar-absorbent carbon polymer laminate, providing stealth and protection against anything short of a direct hit from an anti-tank missile. Its rotors are also monomolecular composite (which is far more durable, and allows their use as a melee weapon for a skilled or suicidal pilot), and its munitions are all IBM-upgraded. Sonic dampening and a thermal/optic camouflage system provide stealth, and an electromagnetic effector unit replaces the Mi-24's standard ECM. The E/M Effector is normally used to reduce the Hind-I's signature further, but an operator with the right hypertech knowledge can use it as a mind control device, remote hack system, or even an offensive weapon. The standard gatling gun has been replaced with a combination of 2mm gatling railgun and 20mm micro-missile launcher, and space optimization allows it to carry significantly more cargo, up to 8 personnel.
Commando Skins: Somewhere between sneaking suits and powered armor, commando suits are thermal/optic camouflage equipped artificial muscle skins and exoskeletons, with face-concealing masks and goggles. They improve strength, agility, and endurance while providing integral medical support (Life 2), protection against small arms (Forces 2/Matter 2), and multispectral sensors capability (Correspondence/Forces/Matter/Mind/Life/Prime 1). The skin itself has adaptive surface properties, allowing them to turn slick or adhesive at will. This allows a user to latch onto walls, or climb up walls (Forces 2). They can be hidden under heavy clothing.


Infantry, Bioenhanced, Multirole:
[x] Ghost: Combat Swarm* + 3 Bob Infiltration Units (stealth)
Combat Swarm: The Combat Swarm is effectively a ZERUEL without the reactor or plasma cannon but with its own assassin tools. Built out of a swarm of components ranging from nanoscale to insect-size, the swarm is an AI-directed unit capable of spreading out to cover a wide area or compacting itself into a disguise. The swarm can act as a surveillance system, a quiet assassin, or a combat asset, although its combat endurance outside of its compacted form is limited. Armaments include 3mm nanomissiles with antipersonnel payloads and the ability to manifest close combat weapons. When compacted, the swarm has the approximate close combat ability of a HITMark V melee variant.
Bob Infiltration Unit: The Bob Infiltration Unit is effectively a HITMark V optimized for close combat, wrapped into a Bob or other clone. This lets you equip them with a false personality which will shield the HITMark itself from detection. It's very hard to find the machinery in a BIU unless you do an autopsy or, well, the corpse gets back up and starts trying to rip you in half. The meat itself is basically real human flesh, not synthflesh, and thus is far more fragile than the machinery underneath, which means that these units often run through flesh coatings the way combat agents fighting shapeshifters run through silver ammunition.


We'll leave the heavy stuff for IBM to splatter the RC, the vampires, and any other targets of opportunity. On our side of things, we'll sneak the Bobs and most of our team into the RC base along with our fake intel leak, with the Combat Swarm spreading out through the base and giving us a map, a way to track enemy numbers and movement, and probably a remote interface through which we can tap into and subvert their security systems. The Hind stays outside, cloaked, to kill everything above-ground and then provide extraction for our team.

EDIT: Disregard this, revised vote posted.
 
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I'm guessing that anything labeled with an * is IBM equipment we won't be getting to keep.

On the Rudra Fighter I'm assuming that the Plasma Cannon has a number of shots before it gets too Paradoxical?
 
[..]He mentions that the Kuei-Jin were looking for artifacts, and some of the ones he saw were stolen from Moscow. He decided to go there and investigate-[..]

This reminds me, we have to take a look to that crate of artifacts. Kessler deserves a Daklaive. One with its spirit awakened.
 
There's a time for subtlety, and a time for smashing open the front door. We actually have the resources for a head-on assault, against an isolated target we can flatten with minimal concern from anyone, probably to general approval of "meathead Iterators" bringing the hammer down. So uh, maybe we should do that this time?
 
[X] (?) Kicking down the front door, guns blazing.
[X] No, not yet.
[X] Assault: Autochthonian War Daemon*
[X] Assault: Expendable Combat Synthetics + ECS Printer + HITMark V-FD Facility Defense Variant

PLAN KILL EVERYONE BUT GOMEZ IS GO.
 
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There's a time for subtlety, and a time for smashing open the front door. We actually have the resources for a head-on assault, against an isolated target we can flatten with minimal concern from anyone, probably to general approval of "meathead Iterators" bringing the hammer down. So uh, maybe we should do that this time?
Only if we want to extract Jiminez as a corpse.

Which we might, I suppose. But if we'd prefer him alive, a course of action that all but guarantees he gets executed before we reach him seems... ill-advised.
 
Generally, trying not to die will take precedence over executing prisoners; and it certainly isn't like shock and awe is incompatible with surprise. Especially with a swarm of completely expendable HITMark Vs.

I am, however, skeptical of our ability to infiltrate a subterranean fortress filled with fanatics and then exfiltrate through the limited exits, especially if the base goes on full alert once Jimenez is recovered.
 
Suborbital Shock Assault Pods: Think of them as missiles with a person inside. These large missiles use kinetic dampeners to make their hypersonic descent survivable for the user. When they impact, they destroy everything under them, explode, killing everyone around, and unleash their payload. Shock Assault Pods are the cornerstone of many a high-tempo Iteration X assault.
STEEHL REHN
 
Insurgent-Brutalizing Materiel:
So, this is your IBM equipment vote. Some of this equipment is borrowed, and they will frownyface if you give it back in damaged condition. The rest is given, and you break it, you bought it.

[ ] Ghost: Mil Mi-24I Hind (IBM Variant)* + 4 Commando Skins
[ ] Panther: ADF-99X Rudra Fighter* + Suborbital Shock Assault Pods* + 2 Haldeman-IBM Powered Combat Suits
[ ] Assault: Autochthonian War Daemon*

Infantry, Bioenhanced, Multirole:
Same deal. Three choices, asterisks mean if you lose it IBM will frownyface and you'll lose support from them, be careful.
[ ] Ghost: Combat Swarm* + 3 Bob Infiltration Units (stealth)
[ ] Panther: CQC Infiltrator Unit* + 3 HITMark V-IBM (covert ops)
[ ] Assault: Expendable Combat Synthetics + ECS Printer + HITMark V-FD Facility Defense Variant
... How interesting - we get to keep anything that doesn't have a *.

Such as the Expendable Combat Synthetics Printer, the Haldemans, or the HITMark Vs.

Given that we want to extract Jiminez/Gomez alive, a quick and quiet extraction / decapitation strike followed by bringing down the hammer seems sensible, though simply hitting hard enough, fast enough could also work.

I note that the Shock Assault Pods are both *ed and appear to be expendables; does this mean using them at all will tick IBM off?
 
Operation: ROBOT APOCALYPSE

[X] (?) Kicking down the front door, guns blazing.
[X] No, not yet.
[X] Assault: Autochthonian War Daemon*
[X] Assault: Expendable Combat Synthetics + ECS Printer + HITMark V-FD Facility Defense Variant

The plan will be very simple. Henriette and Mari operating the ECS forces as Support will mitigate their biggest vulnerabilities by stacking successes against Jamming as rote rolls, and enhancing their tactical capabilities with some adjustments to programming or whatever for more Matter successes. They will be churned out, and accompanied by the HITMark V-FD as an overwhelming wave of robotic death sweeping over the facility and concentrating the garrison on the important task of not being killed by hordes of robots like it's Judgement Day. That will leave Kessler, Jamelia, and Elsa free rein to break into the facility and extract Jimenez in the chaos.

And then we kill all the Reality Terrorists, making sure to leave signs IBM did it as more proof they are lunkheaded Iterators. Or not, if that would be gilding the lily too much or exposing their capabilities to too much scrutiny.
 
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... I definitely want to find an excuse to get our hands on that ECS Printer, then, because wow that seems incredibly useful.

(How long does it take to make an ECS, anyway?)
 
I'd rather be inside the facility before the robot death squad hits, so that we can hit the enemy from both sides at once.

Plus we can always revert to Plan Dalek if the infiltration attempt goes wrong.

I may go back and change my vote to the ECS printer option, though. Not only will it be better for annihilating the facility after we grab Jiminez, it's also the only option that doesn't involve us taking assets that would piss off IBM if they get damaged.

No matter what we do, we'll want to try and find the rest of Jiminez' cabal first. At the very least we can track them so that we know if their rescue attempt is about to collide with our rescue attempt.
 
I'm thinking that having Jamelia, Wufan, and Elsa sneak in with those sneaky suits (and the spare for Jimenez) and then having Kessler head up Mari-and-Henriette's Robot Army would be a good plan. Anyone else?

The HITMARK VFD could stay with Mari and Henriette to provide them with some protection in case things go to shit. It could also be a psuedo-SHOCKWAVE if we needed it to be.

Edit: Putting my votes where my mouth is.

[The Raid:
[X] (?) Infiltrating the facility.
->[x] (?) And then making like the Robot Apocalypse using the ECS swarm.

Wufan/Elsa's Suspicion:
Are the Void Engineers going to confront Jamelia? If so, this might be a chance to get things out into the air.
[X] (1.2x) Yes
->But once they have time when they won't jeopardize the immediate mission.

The last thing we want is in-fighting during a mission.

Insurgent-Brutalizing Materiel:
[X] Ghost: Mil Mi-24I Hind (IBM Variant)* + 4 Commando Skins

[X] Assault: Expendable Combat Synthetics + ECS Printer + HITMark V-FD Facility Defense Variant
 
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[X] (?) Making a feint so that the camp is less guarded (write-in: What kind of feint?)
[X] Ghost: Mil Mi-24I Hind (IBM Variant)* + 4 Commando Skins
[X] Assault: Expendable Combat Synthetics + ECS Printer + HITMark V-FD Facility Defense Variant

We have Henriette and Mari remotely commanding the ECS army to assault the base in a typical meathead Iterator approach, tweaked using Mind 2 (enhanced by Int+Terrorism) to draw the RT forces out against their big, noisy assault. This serves as a distraction for Jamelia and crew to infiltrate the base and extract Brandon Jiminez. As a secondary objective, they can set explosives and generally disrupt the base's operations, making the Langley twins' assault all the more effective.

And if the RTs ignore the obvious distraction tactic? Well, it helps that the diversionary force is a credible assault all on its own, only getting more dangerous the longer they don't commit to destroying it.
 
Jamelia has the MA-38, Elsa has a stealth suit, and of course Kessler has all kinds of focuses, so extra stealth may not really be that necessary. This however is a very heavily fortified Rogue Council base, complete with North Korean special forces wielding Primordial Martial Arts, who knows what kind of summoned combat spirits, and a supertank. We need firepower, and lots of it, to crack the bunker and break into the subterranean levels; and remember this is basically a fortress in the middle of nowhere, not one where we can count on a lot of top cover and street traffic and being in the middle of a city to give a lot of approaches while limiting what the defenders can do.

The War Daemon can almost certainly deal very effectively with the spirits while also providing extra firepower including the kind of heavy explosions needed for this all to work, so we need that too.
 
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There's a time for subtlety, and a time for smashing open the front door. We actually have the resources for a head-on assault, against an isolated target we can flatten with minimal concern from anyone, probably to general approval of "meathead Iterators" bringing the hammer down. So uh, maybe we should do that this time?

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. This is not friendly terrain, there's little cover, and they have Verbena so potentially any of the wildlife could be spies. And on this kind of snowfield, we can't even see if they've hidden mundane landmines around.

Also, worse still, the place is probably paradigm-unfriendly to us. We can't guarantee that since they're a bunch of elitist snobs, "human skill" isn't vulgar because "the Sleepers are weak and pathetic and true power lies in magic".

Yeah. Hard assault time is sounding better and better.
 
Daemons, from what I recall, can laugh off Paradox so if it is a hostile Sanctum that might make it all the more valuable.

[ ] Assault: Autochthonian War Daemon*
War Daemon Yanga: A tank-sized insectoid killing machine with far too many limbs, and a silvered carapace, the war daemon Yanga is a high-powered biomechanical EDE with additional Iteration X built cybergrafts. The EDE core itself has dimensional stabilization properties, allowing the daemon to use its weapons and propulsion with minimal fear of malfunction, and the weapons and armor grafts give it firepower far beyond its size. Bristling with primium-edged threshing blades, spine-like laser emitters, plasma projectors, autocannon, and smart munitions launchers from 4mm seeker rounds to 200mm anti-fortification guided missiles, this war-daemon is unsubtle and lives to destroy. If subtlety is needed, Yanga can transform into a tank and has chameleon capability.​
Ayup.
 
[X] (?) Kicking down the front door, guns blazing.
[X] Yes
Wufan might be offended by Kessler in disguise since John is the one member he probably trusts the most but he's not the sort to let that screw up his decision making.
[X] Assault: Autochthonian War Daemon*
-[X] Invisible tank is the best tank
[X] Assault: Expendable Combat Synthetics + ECS Printer + HITMark V-FD Facility Defense Variant
 
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So yeah, hostile terrain, possible paradigmatic space where the Operative paradigm may not work... not sure that tech won't work, but given they aren't hosting RCPedia here anything advanced we send in should be fully expendable. Or, y'know, a "spirit" that gives no fucks about "magic is the true way to power" paradigm whatsoever.

[X] Operation ROBOT APOCALYPSE
[X] (?) Kicking down the front door, guns blazing.
-[X] Send in the ninjas to exfiltrate the target.
[ ] (1.2x) Yes
[X] Assault: Autochthonian War Daemon*
[X] Assault: Expendable Combat Synthetics + ECS Printer + HITMark V-FD Facility Defense Variant

also this gives us spammable expendible doom robots defs want
 
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