"Oh," Alicia says in a decidedly flat note. "Oh. Oh."
I agree. Entirely. :o

So, you remember why I'm the official Paradox roller, right? Because I produce hilarious results.
...
And then Alicia's car bomb went and made a lot more Paradox from all those HITMarks and Vanessas showing superhuman durability. So... uh, upwards of 30 Paradox just got vented.
Yes, yes you do. And... eeek!

Heh, Beelicio's options are hilarious. Good thing Seelicia is there. Although I rather do like the third option. Punch of Friendship! (Oh, wait. That's RD-ism, and he's a beta fork. Sadness. :cry:)
Also,
"Hold fire!" Ms Candle snaps from the remaining Vanessa, and the troops obey. "Li! Do not use any hypertech! Get in! We are leaving!"
I believe I detect an Agent. Or is that just hijacking the Vanessa's comm gear?
 
[X] Attempt to evade hostiles
[X] Relocate to join the others and (especially) protect Serafina

We're not here to fight Li and Ms Candle. We've done what we came to do, and now the name of the game is 'Get the F%#* out of Mexico City and far away from Panopticon'.
 
[X] Attempt to evade hostiles
[X] Relocate to join the others and (especially) protect Serafina
-[x] Wait until the Panopticon forces enter the church and go down the stairs then blow up their Roland behind them. Then leave.


Escape tunnels are big and clever. Booby traps and collapses behind us would be a good idea too. Leaving Li and Candle on foot in the storm slows them down, adds to the stress on Li, probably forces them to risk more paradox...
 
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[X] Open fire immediately on acquisition of hostile Roland to cripple vehicle
[X] Relocate to join the others and (especially) protect Serafina
 
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[X] Attempt to evade hostiles
[X] Relocate to join the others and (especially) protect Serafina
-[x] Wait until the Panopticon forces enter the church and go down the stairs then blow up their Roland behind them. Then leave.
 
[X] Open fire immediately on acquisition of hostile Roland to cripple vehicle

Leave them on foot to get to the church.

[X] Engage them topside, catching them in the crossfire between the overwatch team and the SPD defences


Look we have a gun that we just used to kill something much more hardcore than an Agent and we have Christos, granted the super Singun rifle is OP AS FUCK but well she will be eating dox trying to get in with the DAI, when they get engaged and then when they try and do things in the sanctum.
 
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I'm not sure that sending the remaining X-410s to Serafina is a good idea, since they might attract the Machine army. Notice how Ms Candle, who clearly has experience with the Machines, ditched all her HITMarks. The X-410s won't be able to do much against the Machines either, so we should send them against Panopticon where they can at least do some good. In fact, since Serafina is currently in an X-410, if we want to evade, we should probably have her get out of it.

So my vote:

Be a ragtag collection of mages
[X] Attempt to evade hostiles
-> [X] Leave her X-410 suit behind to ambush Panopticon


Be Seelicia
[X] Open fire immediately on acquisition of hostile Roland to cripple vehicle
 
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I'm not sure why people are putting that high an emphasis on 'evade.'

So you're going to vanish into the night and... what? Have Serafina defect to the Traditions? Have her live off the grid, without access to most of her foci, and have her tried in absentia for treason? More importantly, remember what Christos said. "I have a lot to tell you and precious little time to do so in." This is a guy who could leave messages even after he dies and destine messages to get to people when they need them.

He has the personal attention of Control put on him in a way that he's not going to be able to avoid. Not anymore. He's exposed himself and Panopticon's back in action and there are some sins they will never forgive. So fuck running. That way just lies a slower, more protracted death, one that's far more meaningless.

[ X ] Engage them topside, catching them in the crossfire between the overwatch team and the SPD defences

If Serafina's going to die, she's not going to die begging for her life. She chooses how she dies.

Same with Alice. She's never going back.

Father Osorio has made his peace with death.

And Christos? He's a killer for fate. He knows that all legends, even his, must end at some point. He rejects the modern idiocy of endless sequels. Ajax kills himself. Achilles dies by Paris's hand. Odysseus has his heart pierced by his own son. He's a hero. He's always been a hero, but unlike what the Syndicate wants to tell you in its puerile comic books, unlike what the Technocracy tells itself with its braintapes and resurrection projects and uploads-the hero always dies.

Your choice here isn't choosing whether you live. It's choosing how you die. And right now, all of you are choosing to die like worms, writhing armless on the ground.
 
^^This, but also, we need to do something to keep Panopticon from tailing Serafina and Alice. Ideally, we cripple Li, kill everyone else, and then get to do fun Mind 4/5 interrogation things to her. Because they have information we need to know. Although having them get taken by the Machine Legion is acceptable, too. The information that Ms. Candle knows would be nice, but I suspect she's probably booby-trapped to hell and back.

So,
Be a ragtag collection of mages:
[ X ] Engage them topside, catching them in the crossfire between the overwatch team and the SPD defences
Be Seelicia:
[X] Open fire immediately on acquisition of hostile Roland to cripple vehicle

Because if we can kill their transport, that's more time they spend exposed to the DAI, racking up Paradox. Sorry, Seelicia. And more firepower they don't have when assaulting the church. And equipment they won't have, or will have to carry.
 
There's like, no particular reason I see to turn this into some kind of last stand. Yingzheng isn't important enough for Christos to sacrifice his life to kill, we've done what we can to try to limit Serafina's exposure to trouble within the Technocracy, and fighting won't really solve anything for Alice and there are quicker ways for her to kill herself. If we can make a clean break from Yingzheng it seems to me very likely that Christos can arrange for Serafina and Alice to get into the hands of his Void Engineer contacts and for them to use their dominant position on-scene to either get the Panopticon team wiped out in the chaos of the fighting in Mexico City or otherwise insure that any attempt to levy blame on Serafina falters for lack of evidence. The idea that death or defection are the only possible outcomes here strikes me as rather poorly supported and reasoned.
 
There's like, no particular reason I see to turn this into some kind of last stand. Yingzheng isn't important enough for Christos to sacrifice his life to kill, we've done what we can to try to limit Serafina's exposure to trouble within the Technocracy, and fighting won't really solve anything for Alice and there are quicker ways for her to kill herself. If we can make a clean break from Yingzheng it seems to me very likely that Christos can arrange for Serafina and Alice to get into the hands of his Void Engineer contacts and for them to use their dominant position on-scene to either get the Panopticon team wiped out in the chaos of the fighting in Mexico City or otherwise insure that any attempt to levy blame on Serafina falters for lack of evidence. The idea that death or defection are the only possible outcomes here strikes me as rather poorly supported and reasoned.

Christos has Entropy and Time, and he specifically said he doesn't have much time to talk. Given that he has a lot of tools to get messages to people, the only thing that can really stop him from talking is being killed, and then murdering his ghost for good measure. I think also that the Void Engineers aren't going to stick their necks out for a Traditions master who is wanted for a lot of counts of Reality Terrorism. Phone calls, sure. Actually getting into a shooting war with the Union secret police? Not unless they're planning on just starting that civil war right now.

There are two possibilities given the Control codes going on.

Either the General is calling the shots, or an Incarna made from NWO administrators is. The latter is going to have incarna-level abilities related to finding people and making their plans work. The former is not quite as perfect but is far more flexible and can think far more creatively, up to and including literally using Reality Deviance.

I do not think "making a clean break from Yinzheng" is going to actually do more than put us into the crosshairs of whatever the actual kill team is. Remember that they're here for Christos, and the last time they did that they literally brought two superfighters which made F-22s look like biplanes. They underestimated him. Panopticon is probably not going to make that mistake again, and they do have a lot of materiel owing to inert Devices and the like being relatively easy to transit through the Dimensional Anomaly.

There's two possibilities here. Either Yinzheng's here to make us panic, at which point the proper way of doing things is to bull through her, or she, herself, is equipped to kill a strategic-level threat, which means that we're probably not going to be able to run nearly as fast as she's going to be able to catch up to us.
 
Or they're panicking and throwing whatever resources are closest at Christos in the hopes that they'll localize him long enough to deploy something that can take him down. Which also explains why he doesn't have much time. He knows that the moment that al-Saud saw him, Panopticon would be assembling its assets to try and kill him. So he(and us) need to get out fast and scatter before the hammer falls.

Of course, with such a high VE presence in the area, a major Panopticon assault runs a real risk of starting the civil war. I'd say though that given the strength of the response we've seen so far to Christos, they're willing to take that risk.
 
Or they're panicking and throwing whatever resources are closest at Christos in the hopes that they'll localize him long enough to deploy something that can take him down.

That doesn't seem consistent with Li, personally, being conditioned to go loud and commit everything if she sees him. They know he is a contact of Alice. They already thought he'd be there.

They probably have the assets already prepared and ready to deploy because you don't fuck around with a Master. (Also because Time lets you do hilarious stuff)

If this was Li acting on her own, or some generic conditioning, or an order coming down the chain right now as they realize who's there sure. But Li is specifically pointed at HANNIBAL. She's been prepared for this exact mission. And because I don't think a CONTROL/GOD level commander is going to deliberately and with forethought put a talented Enlightened agent on a suicide mission her actions will have some benefit to the goal of killing Christos Barberis beyond being a speedbump.

EDIT: Though I don't think they predicted the Anomaly Incursion/Avatar Storm, which is something.
 
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That doesn't seem consistent with Li, personally, being conditioned to go loud and commit everything if she sees him. They know he is a contact of Alice. They already thought he'd be there.

They probably have the assets already prepared and ready to deploy because you don't fuck around with a Master. (Also because Time lets you do hilarious stuff)

If this was Li acting on her own, or some generic conditioning, or an order coming down the chain right now as they realize who's there sure. But Li is specifically pointed at HANNIBAL. She's been prepared for this exact mission. And because I don't think a CONTROL/GOD level commander is going to deliberately and with forethought put a talented Enlightened agent on a suicide mission her actions will have some benefit to the goal of killing Christos Barberis beyond being a speedbump.

EDIT: Though I don't think they predicted the Anomaly Incursion/Avatar Storm, which is something.
It felt to me more like a contingency that they put in all their agents just in case Christos pops up. He's a threat on a scale sufficient enough that that'd probably be a reasonable countermeasure to take.
 
It felt to me more like a contingency that they put in all their agents just in case Christos pops up. He's a threat on a scale sufficient enough that that'd probably be a reasonable countermeasure to take.

""Agent Li, this man is a known associate of Alice Aristide," says the Man in White. "It is believed he was personally responsible for her defection and enabled her escape from Damien. You will act with full caution if you know that he is present. You will subconsciously act with the proper caution because your role in this scenario is to force him to act to preserve his ally. You are to drive Ms Aristide to the point where she must attempt to contact him - or he will seek her out. Do you understand."

"Yes, Control," she says obediently.

"Good girl.""


Nope.
 
""Agent Li, this man is a known associate of Alice Aristide," says the Man in White. "It is believed he was personally responsible for her defection and enabled her escape from Damien. You will act with full caution if you know that he is present. You will subconsciously act with the proper caution because your role in this scenario is to force him to act to preserve his ally. You are to drive Ms Aristide to the point where she must attempt to contact him - or he will seek her out. Do you understand."

"Yes, Control," she says obediently.

"Good girl.""


Nope.
Apparently I'm more forgetful than I thought I was. I still think that we shouldn't worry as much as MJ12 is, but this does mean that there is some sort of kill team waiting. The question now is what- it might have been the saucer, but it's probably something else. Christos will need to bail faster, but I think that we can sneak away while they try to kill him.
 
On the other hand, the Agent is probably supervising, which means that any plan we pick will be the worst possible plan. We can't even count on the Anomaly, because the Agent could have predicted that the UFO would end up causing one.

Be a ragtag collection of mages:
[ X ] Engage them topside, catching them in the crossfire between the overwatch team and the SPD defences
Be Seelicia:
[X] Open fire immediately on acquisition of hostile Roland to cripple vehicle

However, this is likely the option that it has the least contingencies for. Of course, it's entirely possible that the agent is actually the other Euthanos, in which case we're screwed no matter what.
 
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I think I'm going to trust MJ12 on this one. Also, don't forget that Li's cell already has evidence incriminating Serafina. If we can take them out here, hopefully the Dimensional Anomaly (or the VEs) got their backups.

Be a ragtag collection of mages:
[X] Engage them topside, catching them in the crossfire between the overwatch team and the SPD defences

Be Seelicia:
[X] Open fire immediately on acquisition of hostile Roland to cripple vehicle

Hopefully this gets the Xiaolians dragged off by the Machines, rather than caught by Panopticon.
 
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