I think what he means is that we need to prepare for the Junta or any of our other new neighbors trying the same poaching BS in whatever Tokyo annex they end up with that they're currently doing in Osaka.
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Meguca Micro Empire Quest (PMMM)
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I can't say I'm familiar with Japanese inheritance laws, but that does seem strange. She's an adult and should have full control over what her parents left her.
Anyway, what about Kyoko's inheritance? You said she couldn't pay her taxes which led to her church getting sold. Because she defaulted on her taxes and not on her mortgage, I'm assuming there wasn't one. Her tax debt couldn't have been more than a fraction of the church's value and so she should have gotten at least 500k even if it was sold cheap. That was only a few years ago so she should still have most of it. Can't we take a loan from her?
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- Location
- Tatsumiyajima
Very good point there Kinematics.
Except Mami is not an adult. Mami was 15 years old at the start of this quest. She isn't even 18 yet, and age of majority is... 21 in Japan if I remember right.
Kyouko appears to be a runaway / assumed dead, and does not have any monetary assets.
- Location
- The Beach
I'm not sure how it works in Japan, but I feel like she should at least have a case worker she could contact then. Is emancipation is thing in Japan? Not sure the process or how long it would take but she should be able to gain at least some control over her own Trust (or have already done so).
Not sure how estate planning is handled in Japan, but in the States this would be handled by what's called a Living Trust, and Mami herself would not be allowed to be in charge of it until she is an adult. The Trust would be administered by a lawyer or relative, who would be constrained by what the Trust itself was designed for.
In short, if the apartment was being maintained by a Trust, then it actually would not belong to Mami at all, so she would not be able to sell it or use it as collateral for a loan.
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It's also probable that Mami is the beneficiary of a life insurance policy, and possibly a negotiated settlement with Trunk-kun for the death of her parents which may take the form of a monthly provision rather than a lump sum.
Anyway, will try to put together an actual proposal when I get home tonight.
Sorry, I know I promised an action post, but I'm too tired. Came home and discovered the shower faucet broke.
Had to fix tonight if I want a shower tomorrow.
Took three trips to the hardware store to get the right part.
Had to fix tonight if I want a shower tomorrow.
Took three trips to the hardware store to get the right part.
Wow, so much maths. And caught up just as I got the 1st 2 rebellion manga 
. (Also, is that 'Eleanor' who died on screen? I actually read it as her losing the arm, rather than Mami).
That said, I don't know how to decide who to stick in charge - possibly an 'interview' process? I think we more want to choose people based on how well they can keep charge of an area (following our general hunting strategies, keeping girls together, administrating, will probably need to be keeping other groups out etc). If a vet can do this better than an Elite? Though I don't know if we could afford to damage any Elites' pride...
Just some thoughts.
. (Also, is that 'Eleanor' who died on screen? I actually read it as her losing the arm, rather than Mami).I...think it might have originated with this? Actually, Puella Magi makes little sense now without Witches (since it was almost an Incubator joke about Magical Girls 'growing up' into Witches, which is no longer a thing).
I'm not 100% sure about the idea of using Elites as leads - it seems that a lot of the issues came from said Elites, and some of them at least are probably more like Kyouko, probably not suited to a general administrative/non-combat leadership roll, especially likely with a large number of Greens. Definitely don't want Houses named after Elites - that seems to just be leading to the inter-group rivalry that stuffed everything up before.
That said, I don't know how to decide who to stick in charge - possibly an 'interview' process? I think we more want to choose people based on how well they can keep charge of an area (following our general hunting strategies, keeping girls together, administrating, will probably need to be keeping other groups out etc). If a vet can do this better than an Elite? Though I don't know if we could afford to damage any Elites' pride...
Just some thoughts.
Yeah, I was having those concerns as well. Went a different route in a later post, I think.
1) Name houses like they name classes in elementary school. Peach, Sakura, Plum, etc. Divorce the naming from any individual's name. May possibly cheat (claiming the Sakura name to go with the Sakura Church), though, but anyone would know that it's not because Kyouko is in charge, but because of Mami's fondness for her.
By keeping the childish theme in the naming, it helps keep the House naming associated with a simpler, less complicated time, and thus avoids associating it with competitive/conflicting elements like you would with rival schools, teams, power structures, etc.
2) Have two people in charge of each House. The person who is best at managing the logistics of hunting (once trained), and the person who everyone gets along with the best. They are mutually responsible for the management of the House. Simple, informal polls should be sufficient, and if multiples with high qualifications arise in one house, we might very well be able to move one to a House with a weaker candidate.
Neither the administrator, nor the best hunter, or best researcher, etc, are "in charge" of the entire House. Rather, they are in charge of their own specialty within the House, as it requires detailed fussing outside of keeping the House running smoothly as a whole.
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Of course it originated on /a/
I'm kind of the mind that the kind of Elite that gets pissed about not being in charge is not one we want around anyway. We do need to think about it though, we are probably going to get a few when the Tokyo situation finally cools off. We originally wanted to go more of a clan-based system as a logical extension of our current model, House-system seems like it would negate a lot of the problems in clan politics while keeping things similar to our 'family' style, but the main idea was to try and head off any kind of rivalries that can breed discontent. We are still trying to hammer the idea out, I'd very much like to get it done before we actually need it so we aren't fumbling around.
Yeah, just been skim reading, probably missed stuff.
Like the rest of it: not 100% on the idea of a poll - I don't think we want to have it turn into a popularity contest. Though definitely want input - maybe every girl puts in 1-3 nominations and why? Then someone takes the best/most frequent ones and decides?
I was thinking a similar thing, but I think we're looking pretty shaky in our situation in Tokyo - having antagonistic Elites running around isn't likely to help.
Rebellion was derailed in this version. So nothing from those is canon to here.
I don't believe I use Puella Magi in any in character stuff in this quest (if there is any it's an accident). The Incubators tend to refer to them as Contracted or Magical Girls in this quest. Puella Magi definitely was an Incubator misleading truth.
Oh yeah, was more a happy coincidence (have seen the movie - just been reading through the manga recently).
Huh, yeah - hadn't twigged on that.
Huh... I thought she was already 18. It has been 33 months (in game) and so even if she was 15 when the quest started (I kinda thought she was a year or two older) she has 67% chance of having already turned 18. Not that it really matters; Wikipedia says that the age of majority in Japan is 20...
It was due to the typical Shaft distorted animation in some scenes combined with the meme: "Being meguca is suffering" and "No Meduka!"
Actually, I would like to propose that we don't figure it out, and abstract that concern away. We do a lot of micro managing in this quest, and I'd rather not add another layer.
Working on a plan post.
As I recall the general agreement was:
1: Accept a territory for artifact and training trade.
2: Agree to 150 territory for permanent artifact (so we can also rent more).
3: Ask for battery in addition.
4: Ask for a technician (non-combat) on hand to repair the artifact if damaged
5: Ask for effective Safe Passage agreement in Tokyo, imply we hope to make this a general agreement in Tokyo.
Anything else?
EDIT: I did some rough calculations on expected manpower needs next turn, and guesstimate we can afford to send 5 Vets to Kyoto for training, leaving 10 Vet meguca months for Tokyo combat units. Which assuming we only have them available for a weeks worth, makes an effective group of 40. Goal will be to kill 6 to 10 youma?
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And I think those memes might have originated with that image series?
Eh, I do feel that at least a broad idea of how we're separating up and organising all of the new girls is important. How detailed we want to go with it though...
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I thought we were training Mami in how to do the artifact? Since she's the one not drunk off her ass?
I think we want more than one person capable of charging the artifact. Also, Mami is extremely valuable piece in combat too, not sure we want her locked up on a training action. We can discuss later if Mami ought to be one of the five.
Madoka Magica starts at the beginning of the school year — end of March through end of April. Mami is a senior in middle school, which means 9th grade, which means she starts the year at age 14. She formed SIMP within a few months of the Madoka Incident (very end of April), and it's been a little under 3 years since then. We just finished March, which means she's pretty much guaranteed to be 17. We don't know her birthday, so we can't say when she'll turn 18.
Sounds about right. We can probably negotiate the territory size down some (maybe 100-120 range), but that's a level of fiddly negotiations I don't really want to get into. Maybe Mami can do a little bartering in there.
[X] Hashing out the final agreement
Tell Hiko that we would prefer the permanent purchase of the artifact, and the opening of future agreements to rent other artifacts. We feel that in the long run, cooperation between the Serenes and Heaven's Chosen would benefit both of us. Would five girls be sufficient to begin training next month? Does Hiko suggest more? Any advice for us on the type of girls to choose?
We would need a mana battery so that we can begin operations against the teleporter youma while the training is ongoing. We also would like a solution to the possibility of the artifact being damaged in case of some unfortunate event. Perhaps someone available to provide repairs?
We would also like to have an agreement that girls in Tokyo can safely travel in each others territory. Including attending school, or living quarters (to accommodate those still living with family). We hope to have that as an eventual agreement with all organizations in Tokyo, but for now would be happy to merely have an agreement that this will be true for the Serenes and Heaven Chosen.
As for territory size, discuss some options. Tokyo would be most easily divisible by prefecture, and the northeastern prefecture of Irabaki is likely about 150 cube territory. However, it is not directly accessible to a Shinkansen station. The Tochigi prefecture does directly access a Shinkansen station, but is only about a 100 cube territory. Point out that if Hiko agrees to allow Tokyo girls to live freely where they wish, the Serenes would be happy to take in all the local girls in the HC portion of Tokyo territory if there was an easy way for them to commute to Serene hunting areas. A Shinkansen station would allow that.
Suggest that there is no need to make a firm decision now as to which part of Tokyo would be distributed, but that we would like to know if Heaven's Chosen has a preference between those two options, that we will be sure to keep in mind when discussing Tokyo decisions with other organizations.
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@Kinematics Thoughts on the offer to take in the extra local girls? I think that math wise it's actually better for us, right?
Anyway, that's my initial take on it. Have to run, but will be back in an hour or two to check responses.
Tell Hiko that we would prefer the permanent purchase of the artifact, and the opening of future agreements to rent other artifacts. We feel that in the long run, cooperation between the Serenes and Heaven's Chosen would benefit both of us. Would five girls be sufficient to begin training next month? Does Hiko suggest more? Any advice for us on the type of girls to choose?
We would need a mana battery so that we can begin operations against the teleporter youma while the training is ongoing. We also would like a solution to the possibility of the artifact being damaged in case of some unfortunate event. Perhaps someone available to provide repairs?
We would also like to have an agreement that girls in Tokyo can safely travel in each others territory. Including attending school, or living quarters (to accommodate those still living with family). We hope to have that as an eventual agreement with all organizations in Tokyo, but for now would be happy to merely have an agreement that this will be true for the Serenes and Heaven Chosen.
As for territory size, discuss some options. Tokyo would be most easily divisible by prefecture, and the northeastern prefecture of Irabaki is likely about 150 cube territory. However, it is not directly accessible to a Shinkansen station. The Tochigi prefecture does directly access a Shinkansen station, but is only about a 100 cube territory. Point out that if Hiko agrees to allow Tokyo girls to live freely where they wish, the Serenes would be happy to take in all the local girls in the HC portion of Tokyo territory if there was an easy way for them to commute to Serene hunting areas. A Shinkansen station would allow that.
Suggest that there is no need to make a firm decision now as to which part of Tokyo would be distributed, but that we would like to know if Heaven's Chosen has a preference between those two options, that we will be sure to keep in mind when discussing Tokyo decisions with other organizations.
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@Kinematics Thoughts on the offer to take in the extra local girls? I think that math wise it's actually better for us, right?
Anyway, that's my initial take on it. Have to run, but will be back in an hour or two to check responses.