Meguca Micro Empire Quest (PMMM)

What should I do regarding a change in system?

  • Notgreat's proposed simplification of hunting, leave rest intact.

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Chapter system vastly simplifying everything.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
Since that whole thing took place inside Homura's fantasy world, I just assumed that Mami was so powerful because that is how Homura saw her.
Probably not. Even Sayaka, carrying half of Madokami's power(able to block timestop by jamming shield, turn to water, etc), didn't think much of her chances with Mami. As she said, taking Mami on in a straight fight is nuts.

Mami is strong with magic, but that's not her great strength. She's a prodigy at combat and creative magic use. Turning Ribbons into functional flintlock muskets, enchanting items, even knowing what she could do didn't help Homura escape being bound with a pretty ribbon, both vs Charlotte and Tetris . Rebellion's stunts are just more of the same, ribbon tracers, ribbon clones, Tea set artillery piece version of Tiro Finale..

She's just got the right instincts.
 
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Awwww.. Boo. I had something written up too, but I was holding off because it had a bit that assumed that they'd agreed to join, and I'd have to rewrite it to clean it of that assumption, and I wasn't up to doing that last night.
Feel free to post it anyways if you want. Omakes are always welcome.

Since there was mention of hints of other stuff: Was the greying of the ribbon the Madokami guardian angel, or Homura? (Or is Homura Madokami's guardian angel?) Because it felt like an indicator of Homura's timestop, giving Seto just enough time to get her hands out of the demon's mouth.
It's intentionally ambiguous. In just the manner you've indicated.


Yeah though. Basically everything from Rebellion is pretty much invalid for the purposes of this quest. That plot was averted and unlikely to ever end up back on track in this world. Also we're kind of AU even for that considering Sayaka died pre-Rebellion in that timeline anyways and had become one of Madokami's angels, and you've managed to keep her alive here.

I mean partly that's because the original idea behind the quest was the world between end of the anime and the Rebellion movie as embodied by To The Stars. Then from there I basically ended up deciding that the most reasonable puella to run it with was Mami, I mean if you think about the canon cast for 5 seconds she seems the one most likely to make a group. Then there was some crazy obsession with Law of Cycles time. Then I trimmed down powers as needed to arrive at a reasonable game balance and game system which didn't involve a too extreme an amount of work.

I admit that to a degree I threw canon powerlevels (and occasionally logic) under the bus to achieve proper game balance. But I think the choices worked out for the best. Taking canon Rebellion Mami as your hero unit would have made things much too easy I think. I focused more on the feel of PMMM than on exacting detail.
 
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Omake: Leadership
Shame, if you had posted it the bonus might have been enough to put it over the top.
Bah, I'll post it anyway. It's a short little piece, and not tied to any point in time, so maybe it can fit in later.

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Seto Tomoe stood at the back of the little planning room where several other magical girls were working. She'd been allowed to observe their command structure, and was currently checking out how they managed hunting arrangements.

"All right, this should be the last data point," said a girl with a long ponytail, just entering the room. She handed a piece of paper to another girl at the desk, who added a few numbers to a tracking chart.

After a bit of math, she notified the others, "Ok, overall rating looks like 5.3, then. Hmm."

A few quick looks passed between them, before they seemed to come to some unspoken agreement. The girl who had most recently entered must have noticed Seto and her confusion, though, and tried to give an explanation.

"Ah, the DS — er, demon strength — is too high to do accelerated hunting on, but it's too low to merge with the existing northern district. We'll underhunt it back down to 0, and merge it with the north when the two areas are in sync. After that we can redistribute a portion of the northern territory to the south to get them balanced again, and finally re-optimize hunting assignments."

A girl with strawberry blonde hair and incongruously dark jacket, who seemed to be in charge of the desk, chimed in, "Plus that will give us time to get used to the patrol routes in your area without it bleeding over into the current routes. We can pair your girls up with some of our team to get a better understanding of the layout and demon patterns."

"What's the projection look like?" the first asked, leaning down over the mess of papers scattered across the table.

"Hmm... Guessing about 70, maybe 72 cubes this month. We won't be able to take full advantage of the new territory until it's properly integrated. Once it's back in sync, it might go as high as 80."

"Wow. We might actually be back in the black after paying off Kyuubey."

"Kyuubey?" Seto asked, speaking up for the first time. Unfortunately, that seemed to be a delicate topic, as grimaces manifested on the faces of all those present.

Finally the lead girl answered. "We, ah, had a little accident a few months ago, and had to get Kyuubey to cover up for us. It totally wasn't our fault! But we had to pay through the nose to get it cleaned up." Her defense seemed to lack a bit of conviction.

"Anyway!" a third spoke up, "That won't happen again!"

"I see," Seto replied. And she could, somewhat. Kyuubey loved to charge for his services. She was curious about what this 'accident' was, though.

Still, this entire dispatch center seemed a bit surreal. A massive whiteboard on the back wall had a couple dozen names running down one side, and a grid of calendar dates, with numbers in each box that seemed to refer to another table that described patrol routes. Her own little group had never been this organized — had never needed to be this organized.

And it wasn't like the Serenes were a large organization. Sure, larger than her own, but the total size was under 50 before her group joined, and a quick glance at the board showed maybe 15 or 16 hunters with routes assigned; at most, three times as many hunters as her own group had active per month. They just seemed... obsessed with this efficiency.

Looking back at the battle with the Class 3 demon, there was a clear lack of focus on the fight; fear and uncertainty and nervousness spread throughout all of the vets taking part. This was not an organization with experience at going to war, but they'd dedicated lavish attention to anything with numbers in it — both this hunting operation, and a rather ridiculous collection of money-making operations they had active. They were actually starting up their third business venture! And apparently managed a half-million dollar loan to get it running. The idea of a half-million dollars in her hands was just mind-boggling.

Seto sighed and shook her head, starting to make her way out. She gave a smile and wave as she left, though, to show that it had nothing to do with the girls who had been trying to explain things to her. "Take care, Tomoe-san!" carried out the door after her.

Even that bothered her, a bit. "Tomoe-san." By some strange coincidence, the same last name as the leader of the Serenissima, yet none of the girls had any trouble referring to her that way. The reason? She had never once heard one of the girls refer to Mami Tomoe by her last name; only some form of 'Mami-san' or 'Oneesan'. One large family, 50 strong.

She walked out onto the porch overlooking the backyard — another reminder of the amount of money flowing through this group — and took a seat. Her own group had done... OK, money-wise, but they literally could not afford to dedicate too much time to it. A couple of girls had jobs, which brought in enough money to pick up the leather armor they used in their hunts. A couple small, cheap apartments for those who had no family to stay with.

She thought they'd been doing well — no, they had been doing well. A bit rough, but there was a camaraderie among them, the bonds of shared experience. Perhaps they, too, would have grown as the Serenissima had, into a thriving community, able to share their strength with others. If she had committed to building an organization of her own a year earlier, instead of shutting everyone out and staying on her own, would they have been prepared to deal with a threat like...? No.

There is strength, and there is power, which Seto had. And then there is leadership. The twin girls, Kyouko and... she wasn't sure if she'd caught the other one's name —they had perhaps more raw power than any of them, but were certainly not leaders. Even with just casual association, she'd already seen the wide berth the other girls gave the red-heads. But what held this group together — what allowed several dozen girls to organize to fight such a terrible threat, on the behalf of someone they barely knew, on mere hours notice — was the leadership of a girl who made no pretense about caring deeply about every single one of her charges.

That charisma gathered people to her in droves — girls who would trust in her and follow her. It was a talent that Seto herself sadly lacked. She could lead, but felt she was far from being a true leader, one that could gather such a following, organize them, and keep it all running smoothly like this.

It felt so wrong, letting someone else take over for her, letting other people be in charge of her girls — her family. Even if they never openly admitted it, there was a certain feel... Heh. Perhaps she could understand Mami a bit better than she had thought.

And now it was a question of whether she could look at all these new faces, and think of them as her family, as well. Obsessively nerdy family, but family. A family that had welcomed her without hesitation, adding the names of girls they didn't even know to their personal memorial shrine, so they would never be forgotten...

"Right," Seto said to herself a moment later, slapping her legs as she stood up to shake off the melancholy. She directed her gaze to the northeast, where even now arrangements were being made for a new set of apartments to house a decent number of girls — "rearranging manpower for more optimal coverage" — along with the ones she'd lived together with these past months.

A smile flickered across her face, as another flicker left the yard empty.


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While Seto herself (as written) doesn't think much of her leadership capabilities, I'm putting that down to the Dunning-Kruger effect — she's good enough to be able to see just how much farther she has to go, and despairs at being inadequate (when given someone like Mami to compare against), despite being far better than she gives herself credit for. In truth, Mami would probably say much the same thing — that she is far from a great leader, and it's only due to the support of those around her (and a bit of luck) that she made it as far as she did.
 
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Probably not. Even Sayaka, carrying half of Madokami's power(able to block timestop by jamming shield, turn to water, etc), didn't think much of her chances with Mami. As she said, taking Mami on in a straight fight is nuts.

Mami is strong with magic, but that's not her great strength. She's a prodigy at combat and creative magic use. Turning Ribbons into functional flintlock muskets, enchanting items, even knowing what she could do didn't help Homura escape being bound with a pretty ribbon, both vs Charlotte and Tetris . Rebellion's stunts are just more of the same, ribbon tracers, ribbon clones, Tea set artillery piece version of Tiro Finale..

She's just got the right instincts.
And yet, in this case she's not as crazy bullshit hax as she normally is, but she is in the forefront of meguca groups despite the existence of Legendaries and larger concentrations of people. Could Madokami be using Mami to learn how to build meguca civilizations?
 
And yet, in this case she's not as crazy bullshit hax as she normally is, but she is in the forefront of meguca groups despite the existence of Legendaries and larger concentrations of people. Could Madokami be using Mami to learn how to build meguca civilizations?
Maybe.

But while she had the potential to get there on pure skill, she lacks raw power from exotic wish magic.

If she reaches Legendary, nobody would notice for a long while. Its all skills, not powers.
 
So here's another essay about Meguca politics. This time I'll be considering political cleavages between groups. The sorts of things that can keep groups apart, or even at odds. As much as humans are social animals, we will also find any excuse to disagree with other groupings and stand apart from them. The biggest thing to note going into this is that magical girls are not cut off from the societies they come from, and are heavily influenced by that context (which they remain in).

The first division I will speak of is linguistic. Put simply, if you only speak French and she only speaks German, it's going to be more difficult to work together. Similarly, if your first language is French and you have some German, it's still going to be much easier to work together with French speakers. While it is possible to work together with people who don't speak your language, it's a slog, and people naturally prefer their native tongue.

So groups in, say Europe, are going to form along linguistic lines first. Now, that isn't to say they will stay that way, but it is easier to do so. This is obviously true for Diplomatic groups, but it is also true for Conquest groups. A language barrier makes it much easier to plot against the ruling clique.

Of course, once a division along linguistic lines has formed, nationalism gets involved and significantly solidifies those lines.

But language is fluff. It isn't a substantive difference on it's own, only becoming such with the injection of nationalism. You know what's substantive?

Religion is substantive. Religious differences between girls mean real and fundamental disagreements on how the world works. In areas of the world where there are religious tensions, girls are more likely to split themselves along religious lines than along other lines.

India, for example, has a huge number of languages. Yet Hindu girls are likely to form their own multilingual groups than to associate with "Those Moslem bitches". And likewise for vice-versa. This isn't to say that a Muslim group can't be on better terms with a Hindu group than with another Muslim group, but rather that the groups themselves are likely to be religiously homogeneous.

You are more likely to see religiously diverse groups form through conquest than by diplomacy. Conversion by the sword will doubtlessly be attempted, but as the masquerade means that girls families can't be converted, I believe it will usually fail. It will be easier to convert the orphans, but as conquered groups will stay together as subordinate clubs and cliques, it's unlikely to succeed either until wraiths and spirals have torn their support structure up enough to isolate them.

Diplomatically, I think you're more likely to get an alliance than a merger, but a sufficiently powerful enemy could lead to groups that are on good terms merging or effectively merging to deal with them. That outside threat could be anything from a conquest group to these superdemons that have just been revealed.

Moving on. If a nation has an "untouchable" caste or class, such as the Dalits in India or the Burakumin in Japan, then the Puella from those groups are going to have to group together because other groups are unlikely to accept them. Even more enlightened groups that don't bear them ill will shall have to carefully consider if they want to take them in, since having an untouchable in their group will make said group much less attractive to join and hurt their reputation.

Of course, this depends on the extent of the discrimination. In India and Japan these untouchable people are significantly more touchable than previously, I believe, and in France and Spain the discrimination against the Cagot's has pretty much disappeared. Up to Helix if he wants to include these sorts of considerations into the quest.

Another divider is race.

In New York City, I strongly believe that the groups will associate by race and ethnicity. See here. I also believe that that will repeat itself across the United States. As much as I detest it, racism is alive and well, and it is a major separator of people.

Like religion, multi-ethnic groups are more likely to happen by conquest than by diplomacy. Although a common foe or just the girls not being bigots would allow them to form by diplomacy.

I have touched on social class with the Dalit and Burakumin, but outside of the especially deep class divides, like untouchables or slaves, I honestly don't think that social class will be a big divider of puella groups. Sure, if there is enough of a concentration of rich people to have a group of girls all be rich, they'll look down on the plebs, but Puella are about 1 in 20k-25k people. I just don't think there are enough of them, in enough of a geographic concentration, to form groups on that basis. Economic and Social class are more likely to have their influences in internal divisions and internal politics, where the rich girls will have economic clout.

I could be wrong on that though.

Anyway, I have already discussed language, religion, class, and ethnicity, what is left? Gender isn't relevant because all the meguca are girls for some reason. Ah, nationality.

National boarders will be a divider, but may not be a large one. In areas where national power is strong, and it's hard to sneak across boarders, then it will be a powerful divider. South Korea and North Korea are going to have very separate MG communities. On the other hand, girls in Africa where tribal affiliation trumps national loyalty and tribes can easily be in more than one nation the dividers will be less meaningful. And criminal groups in Central America could easily span national boundaries like their mundane counterparts.

All of these are just things that puella inherit from being part of human society, and entirely leaves out the various dividers specific to them.

Criminal and Law Abiding groups are going to dislike each other. Criminal groups will look down on the others as not being willing to do what it takes to survive, and Law Abiding groups will look down on the others as, well, criminals.

Conquest v Diplomacy groups will be similar. Diplomatic groups will value things that indicate a group is worth talking to, generosity, honor in your deals and dealings, respect for other groups' institutional integrity, etc. Conquest groups on the other hand will respect military might first and foremost, and attempts to be reasonable will usually be interpreted by them as signs of weakness. Expect this to be the general thinking of conquest groups, even if it gets dressed up nicer. Contrarily, diplomacy groups will tend towards rationalizing their actions with social contract sounding arguments.

And after that there is common meguca suspicion and paranoia. Puella life is incredibly harsh and difficult. The natural suspicion that "those outsiders" might dick you over for their own advantage, is actually quite possibly well founded in the Puella world. This is the founding environment that all wild puella, and thus at this point all large puella groups, spring from. That environment in turn leads to groups seeing other groups, before any other data is gathered on them, as potential threats and competition for scarce resources. Which turns into isolationism in diplomatic groups and belligerency in conquest groups, generating failures to communicate and failures of communication when it does manage to happen. And as everyone knows, miscommunication kills.

Finally, there is the usual politics. That elite you recruited was a bitch to girls who have been in my organization before she joined yours, so I'll keep my distance from you. I've heard rumors that you've done bad things for no good reason. These can also keep groups apart, and these reasons can range from frivolous to actually pretty well founded worries.


This is as complete a list of things that can keep Magical Girl Groups separated as I can come up with in a few days. The important thing to remember is that all of these things are true at the same time, but are important to varying degrees in different places and to different girls. There will be religious and linguistic divides in New York, ethnic and linguistic divides in India, and politics is always going to influence everything everywhere. Which divides are most important to a group depends both on the wider social context they are part of and on the collective opinions of the girls themselves.

It is possible to get a secular, religiously tolerant group of meguca in India or Pakistan, and a racially inclusive group of girls in Dixie. It will just be rarer than divisions that are reflective of wider society.

Some areas of the world will, by their circumstances, render some distinctions irrelevant (like how you aren't likely to see religion be a major issue of dispute among girls from Saudi Arabia) or just nonsensical (the distinction between criminals and non criminals fails to mean anything in places with weak governmental authority like Somalia).

So, like my previous essays, it's complicated and there will be exceptions but here are some thoughts on trends.
 
In New York City, I strongly believe that the groups will associate by race and ethnicity. See here. I also believe that that will repeat itself across the United States. As much as I detest it, racism is alive and well, and it is a major separator of people.

One note I would like to make on this, is that racial exclusive groups are likely to be more true outside of The South then inside Dixie. You may wonder at this comment, but I (born and raised in the Northwest) ended up living in a small town in the South for a couple years.

It's... hard to describe, but... racism is much more explicit and visible there, that is for sure. However, people of different races actually interacted far more often then I ever saw in Seattle, and both black and whites were far more comfortable together then I saw in Seattle. And in times of crisis far more likely to co-operate then attack each other. (I got to see this when the river overflowed and half the town got flooded).

If I were to describe it... it's like... in Seattle blacks and whites were cordial strangers. In the South, blacks and whites are like a family divided by a bitter feud. One that is slowly healing too. So... there is this feud history that has left feelings rather raw, but there is also a familial sense of... well.. just knowing the other person, beyond just their race.

I guess what I'm saying is that the "otherness" of race felt a lot stronger in Seattle then it did in Dixie.

I was very surprised by that, and it was certainly not anything I ever expected to see down south.

I would expect that the pressures of being a Magical Girl would be far more likely to result in inter-racial cooperation inside the South then out of it...

Although I suppose open racial conflict might also be more likely too.
 
So... there is this feud history that has left feelings rather raw, but there is also a familial sense of... well.. just knowing the other person, beyond just their race.

I think that was more that everyone in a small town knows each other. I would expect that in a big city like New Orleans or Birmingham it would be more similar to how they just divide themselves in New York (see that demographics chart I posted) but with the feud history on top of it.

So I would put that closeness down to rural/urban differences more than north/south differences.
 
I'd tack on that these divides are likely to be less pronounced than you might expect. I think one of the most defining traits of humans is the ability to unite against a mutual enemy. The nature of magical girl life gives more of a common enemy than humans usually possess. I think that would give much more ability to cross normal societal boundaries than normal.
 
I'd tack on that these divides are likely to be less pronounced than you might expect. I think one of the most defining traits of humans is the ability to unite against a mutual enemy. The nature of magical girl life gives more of a common enemy than humans usually possess. I think that would give much more ability to cross normal societal boundaries than normal.

Yep. The existence of demons presents a common enemy, and common enemies are one of the best unifying influences one can have.

However, once a large puella group has their legs under them the usual demons, if managed correctly, are a resource to be farmed rather than a threat to be feared. I will admit that I might be speaking from a somewhat unusual perspective given the low casualty figures of the Serenes, but once a group has established a substantially better combat record against demons than the wild allows, other puella groups become the largest potential threat.

At least until superdemons turn up.

It would probably be a good idea to write a companion piece about unifying influences, to put this essay in perspective. But I'm kinda tapped out for creative juices right now.
 
Omake: Burdens
Burdens

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The evening after the big battle with the demon, Kaoru took off on her own for a while. Ignoring both the celebrating and the conferences and more serious discussions, she heading downtown to take in an evening of clubbing and karaoke. Not as much fun as when doing it with her friends from the Serene, but when people were partying, everyone was your friend.

A massive pressure inside her needed release, and singing, or screaming, her heart out cheering the bands and getting worked up with the crowds... it helped drain the tension that had been following her all day, ever since the initial announcements that morning.

It was so effective, in fact, that she found herself dragging her tired body back to the dorm house barely past eight o'clock. There was even some dinner left in the fridge she could reheat, before flopping down on one of the couches with the other girls watching some inane TV show, laughing mockingly at how awful it was.

Perhaps it was that zen state of no longer caring about anything that allowed her to see those around her a little more clearly. Raucous laughter, just slightly forced. Nervous undercurrents beneath the giggles. Twitchily-fast reactions when moving around. Friendly hugs, holding on a bit too tight.

Everyone playing off the battle as one big joke, but the lingering fear of what could have happened not yet having released its claws.

Looking around, she realized that though there was lots of noise being made around the television, the house itself was far quieter than usual. Probably a lot more, like herself, that had needed to get out and do something crazy in order to release the stress that was weighing on them all.

It was strange, in this moment, where it felt like she was gently drifting along, able to lazily measure the current mood of every girl within the room. Laughter, both fake and genuine; a hand, gently resting on another, neither girl looking at each other, but both happier from the contact; a shy glance as eyes traveled across the room, pausing for so short a time that no one should have been able to see it. Emotional tones and overtones, constantly overlapping, that she could nudge along, or pin in place, or lift to new heights, or simply watch and observe.

And then one moment out of that maelstrom of understanding snapped her out of it. Taya, currently sitting on one of the chairs rather than a couch, darting nervous glances at the girls around her. Fear. Present, not a memory. As Kaoru blinked, the impression faded.

Looking again, Taya was talking happily with everyone around, laughing and making jokes, with no hint of anything wrong. But something must have shown in Kaoru's own face, for when their eyes met for a brief moment, Taya's laughter seemed to fade away. After coughing briefly, she made some excuse about needing a shower, and bade quick farewells before leaving the small party.

Kaoru frowned, remembering the events earlier in the day. In the celebration of victory, Taya had seemed somewhat hesitant, and perhaps a bit worried. Kaoru had dismissed it at the time as nervous jitters after the battle, but now...

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Kaoru stood in front of Taya's door, knocking gently. After several moments of silence, she carefully opened the door and peeked inside.

A tired look of resignation seemed to cross her face as Taya looked up at Kaoru, before she gestured at a spot on the bed beside her, the room otherwise empty of ready seating. Kaoru entered and took the offered spot, but remained quiet.

The two of them had known each other for over a year, now, though it often felt longer, and a mix of memories carried their relationship. Kaoru had been in the organization longer, but Taya had more experience. They both remember the time of Taya keeping watch over Kaoru when the younger girl had started spiraling. And, of course, they both had a month of Hell with Kyouko. In between all that, times when they were closer together, or had drifted apart. It was... comfortable. A friendship no longer based on outward pretense, but just mutual understanding and shared support.

"You wanna talk about it?" Kaoru asked, starting the conversation.

Taya just shrugged, soft blue hair falling off her shoulders as she hunched over slightly. Her lithe frame didn't really allow for a proper pouting posture, but she seemed to be trying.

Kaoru sighed, folding her hands in her lap. "I could see it, just for a moment," she said. "You were... afraid. Afraid of every one of the girls down there. Afraid of.. something; I'm not sure what. I could see the fear, but I couldn't see the why."

An aborted cough caused Kaoru to look over. Taya was frowning as she complained, "Using your powers is cheating."

Kaoru almost started arguing back, but stopped and just huffed. "Don't change the subject," she commanded, crossing her arms, before relenting slightly. "Seriously, what's bothering you?"

Taya's posture collapsed further, a despondent sigh released as she looked away. "I failed." When Kaoru didn't respond, she continued, "With that demon today. I was searching for it, trying to penetrate the stealth so that we could actually see what we were fighting, and I failed."

Kaoru frowned, replying, "It was a tough opponent. It wasn't just you, none of the clairvoyants could break through its invisibility."

"No!" Taya almost shouted back, before stopping herself. "Not just 'failed', as in I couldn't overcome its skill, 'failed' as in I couldn't see anything!" she let out, in almost a hiss. "It was right there, practically in my face, and it was like I was blind. All I could think of was how this monster was going to tear through my body with its claws, and crush my head in its teeth. Everyone.. everyone depending on me, expecting me to be the key to break through its defenses, and I felt like a newly-contracted green without any magic at all."

Kaoru was already gathering her into a hug, holding tight against the shivering she felt in the taller girl's body.

"And aft—", a choked swallow, then, "after telling you everything was going to be all right, now I'm the one naked on stage, with everyone watching, knowing that it would have been my fault if anyone got hurt. Was hurt. If anyone got killed..."

Kaoru was shaking her head. "They don't think that—"

"They weren't there. After the vets teleported out... I did everything I could to hit it — and that only because of Kyouko's training — but it was mostly useless. Mami was the one who kept it from killing us, and Kyouko was the one who killed it. I was just an extra body who couldn't do what they needed me to do. Too proud of myself, of my new 'power', letting them down just like..." Clenched teeth kept anything from coming out.

Kaoru just held her, rocking her gently and stroking her back until the tension finally seemed to fade away.

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"It's not supposed to be this way, you know," Kaoru said teasingly. At an inquiring grunt, she continued, "I'm not supposed to be the one comforting our 'prince'." An unamused snort was all she got back.

"It's not easy, is it?" Kaoru continued, more to herself this time. "I was terrified of failing everyone who was counting on me because they think I'm going to be our next 'elite'. But even if you make it, you still have to keep proving yourself every day. I don't know how Mami does it."

"Mami wasn't afraid," came a muffled answer. "She was... shining. Every moment of the fight, you knew there was no doubt in her mind that we'd get through it. It was only because of her that I could keep going."

"Yeah, but... we do depend on her, just like all those others are depending on you and me. And she never fails them, or us. It's a lot of weight to bear. If one of us fails, it's awful, but if Mami fails, there'll be nothing left."

"She doesn't bleed..."

"Huh?" Kaoru asked, confused by the response.

"Nothing. Not important." After a brief pause, she added, "We should help her, though. Don't make her to be the one to support us, but be the one to help support her, instead. Don't force her to carry the weight of our expectations."

Kaoru only nodded.

Comforting silence was finally broken by Kaoru speaking up once again. "Taya?"

"Yes?"

"Will you..." An inhaled breath, gathering courage. "Will you teach me?"

Confused eyes looked up into her face; a strange perspective to be seeing the taller girl from.

"Will you help me," she continued. "Help me be strong enough to help carry that burden, too? Help me be strong enough to face those expectations, and be someone everyone can depend on?"

Her head shaking, Taya replied, "I'm not the right one for that. Mami and—"

"No. No, you understand me, Taya. You understand what I need to know, what I need to get through. You—" Kaoru bit her lip as she looked away. Taya understood her position far better than Kyouko and Mami would — those who had lived for many years as an elite. But more importantly, she felt as if Taya herself needed that acknowledgement, that feeling of someone looking up to her and depending on her. Someone who understood her fears, but believed in her anyway.

Someone who would help Taya let go of the fear Kaoru had seen in the girl's eyes earlier, as she looked at everyone around her.

"I... I don't know." A reluctance, masking a faint hope. The sense wasn't as clear, or as strong has it had been earlier, but Kaoru trusted her instincts nonetheless.

"I believe in you. No matter what happens, I'll believe in you."
 
Omake: You're in hot water now
No Time for Hot Springs!
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You're in Hot Water Now!

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Yuma rushed along, trying to keep up with the other girls running beside her. Yuma wasn't completely sure about what was going on, but Big sis Mami said that there was a scary demon on the loose, and they had to help another group of girls fight it.

Yuma was a big girl, and they needed her help! Of course Yuma would help! They needed her to stay outside and help anyone who got hurt. Yuma gave her nod of understanding. Her healing magic had helped lots of people. She was glad she had that kind of magic.

She smiled as she saw twin flashes of red in the train of runners ahead. Big sis Kyouko was strong. Any demon better start running if Kyouko went after it!

Everyone always thought that big sis Kyouko was scary, but Yuma knew better. Kyouko always gave her candy and ruffled her hair with a grin. For some reason, no one else was ever around to see it, but Yuma knew the truth!

So when those girls from that other group started saying mean things about Kyouko, Yuma had to defend her big sister!

"Big sis Kyouko isn't mean! Big sis is a good person!" She stomped and pouted. How could they say such things?

The girls didn't look like they believed Yuma, though. No one ever seemed to believe Yuma. It made Yuma sad. But big sis Mami would give her some cake, and big sis Kyouko would rub her head and tell her to cheer up, and that always helped Yuma feel better.

The girls seemed to be ready to yell back at her, but stopped and looked around a bit nervously. Yuma looked too. After all, the other girls in the Serrra— Sirena— Mami's Super Club would help her out, right?

Strangely, none of them seemed to be looking at Yuma. Everyone was looking at the city around them. Did something happen? Yuma looked around quickly, to make sure she hadn't missed anything, but everything looked the same.

Still, it was important that those girls know that they couldn't say such things about Kyouko. Yuma's glare forced them to look away, so Yuma knew they understood.

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Ah! Something fell to the ground in the middle of their gathering, and Yuma turned to see it was the tall girl from that other group, the one who seemed to be in charge. But she was missing a leg! Oh no! Yuma immediately tried to start healing the leg, but Sayaka pushed her aside (gently), pointing at some of the nasty cuts down the girl's arm, and the gash in her side.

Yuma nodded, letting big sis Sayaka work on the leg. Sayaka was really good at healing, so Yuma let her work on that until she needed Yuma's help. Meanwhile, Yuma would work on fixing the other injuries. It was important to get it done fast, so all the healers were helping out.

Yuma finished up her part easily enough, but Sayaka wasn't quite done yet. Yuma was about to ask if she needed to help when suddenly everyone was shouting about something. Oh! Big sis Mami and big sis Kyouko were back! They beat the demon!

Yuma immediately jumped up and rushed at the weary-looking fighters who were just exiting the demon's space, launching herself at a familiar red cassock-dress. "Big sis Kyouko! You're all right!"

"Hmph," Kyouko snorted. "Whaddya take me for?" She patted the smaller form on the back as a smirk crawled across her face.

Yuma suddenly jumped back, pointing at a couple of the foreign meguca. "They said you were being mean, big sis! You wouldn't do that, right? Tell them to quit saying bad things!"

Kyouko's face suddenly froze, glancing at where the younger girl was pointing. The growing smirk turned into a grimace of recognition, before she looked away uncomfortably. "Ahh..." she tried to form a reply, glancing around until finally locking on Mami's face, giving a silent plea for help.

"You killed the demon and saved everyone!" Yuma continued, oblivious to the awkwardness of the situation.

"I, uh, didn't do it all by myself," Kyouko protested, trying to deflect the now unwanted attention while giving quick glares at Mami, who continued to watch with an amused expression on her face.

"But you still helped save everyone! So you're a good person, and you wouldn't do those mean things!"

"I.. maybe.. kind of might have done some things that weren't quite so nice," Kyouko ground out, trying to avoid looking at anyone's face around her, as all of the crowd had gotten much quieter to watch the spectacle.

"Whaaa—?" Yuma's massive, wobbly, tear-filled eyes stared up at Kyouko in shock and disbelief, lips trembling as the image of her hero was on the verge of shattering.

"Not— Not anymore!" Kyouko's focus rushed back to Yuma, ignoring those around her. "I don't— I won't— " Kyouko stumbled over her words as she tried to figure out what she even wanted to say. "Look," she said, dropping down to look Yuma in the eyes. "I'm here to kill the demons; make sure they don't hurt anyone. Right? I'm not going to do anything mean to anyone. I'm not—" she glanced past Yuma briefly, before returning her gaze to the small girl. "I'm just gonna keep everyone safe," she finally stated.

After several seconds of uncertain terror, Kyouko finally saw Yuma's face transform into one with happy tears rather than betrayed ones, before the green-haired girl launched a tackle at her hero. "I knew it! Kyouko is a good person!" Kyouko awkwardly pat her head, trying desperately not to look like a gullible sap as the crowd around her gradually turned away and returned to their own discussions, though she could swear she heard a few snickers getting through.

Wait a minute...

"What are you laughing at?" Kyouko growled out at her clone, who had been standing to the side with her hands clasped behind her head, acting as if none of this had anything to do with her. The clone just shrugged and smirked.


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Title is a play on Yuma's name


Since final results are still not in, a little something to help stave off the Kyouko-anger in Seto's group.
 
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I like it. Although Yuma is ten years old, not six.

And yes, I know that is her personality in the manga, but even then she was eight, and while an eight year old might be that childish, I have a hard time thinking of a ten year old that way... although Yuma of course probably still looks eight.

Sigh... that's going to become an issue isn't it?

I mean, a 14 year-old that stops growing... well that's uncommon but not unheard of for girl's growth to end at that age. But eight? There are going to be questions asked...
 
And yes, I know that is her personality in the manga, but even then she was eight, and while an eight year old might be that childish, I have a hard time thinking of a ten year old that way... although Yuma of course probably still looks eight.
I think it was mentioned that she was 9 at the start, so she's actually 11 now. And yes, I did actually consider that when writing.
I mean, a 14 year-old that stops growing... well that's uncommon but not unheard of for girl's growth to end at that age. But eight? There are going to be questions asked...
Not only that, though, but they still get treated the same way. They may be older, but on the surface, every girl in the organization still sees Yuma as 9 years old — the youngest girl in the Serenes. They treat her as they always have, and she acts as she always has because that's the person they expect her to be.

Like, she's as good as or better than Sayaka as a healer. But because Sayaka is the 'older' one, Sayaka takes charge and puts Yuma on the secondary duties. Yuma knows they're not trying to be mean to her, so she takes it in stride, and maintains that persona. But there's still that little bit in the back of her head that's waiting for them to ask for her to step into more important roles.

Edit: Also, I think her persona is the only one that can really get inside Kyouko's guard like that. And Mami knows it, which is why she's happy that Yuma takes that role, and amused by Kyouko's antics. Mami would be well aware of Kyouko's reputation, and if Yuma can help defuse that, she won't interfere.
 
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Hasn't everyone been training illusions for a long time now? We've had girls passing for adults practically since the beginning.
 
Hasn't everyone been training illusions for a long time now? We've had girls passing for adults practically since the beginning.
Yes this was my handwave to help make things a bit more reasonable to deal with. I've made a lot of sacrifices of canon for the sake of playability (and occasionally people harp on this, but I challenge any of them to make a fully canon compliant civ game that works well at all).

Not only that, though, but they still get treated the same way. They may be older, but on the surface, every girl in the organization still sees Yuma as 9 years old — the youngest girl in the Serenes. They treat her as they always have, and she acts as she always has because that's the person they expect her to be.
Her internal thoughts were a bit more immature than you'd expect though, even if she were intentionally playing it up.

though she could swear she heard a few snickers getting through.

Wait a minute...

"What are you laughing at?" Kyouko growled out at her clone, who had been standing to the side with her hands clasped behind her head, acting as if none of this had anything to do with her. The clone just shrugged and smirked.
This was the most amusing bit to me. Probably only encourages the idea that Kyouko is actually twins.

Update has been delayed a bit as is obvious, but not a big concern yet. Mostly been contemplating more ways to make things interesting beyond the growth cycle.
 
Hasn't everyone been training illusions for a long time now? We've had girls passing for adults practically since the beginning.

Which is fine for fooling someone into letting you buy a beer. (Or a house). But not so good when you have a parent. I guess since Yuma is an orphan essentially being raised by the Serenes it doesn't impact her.

But Kaori, (ten at contract age) she's probably going to start having a worried mother (again) in a year or two.
 
Her internal thoughts were a bit more immature than you'd expect though, even if she were intentionally playing it up.
Well, her physical body is still mode-locked as an eight-year-old; that probably affects her personality, even if her mental processes are offloaded into the Soul Gem.

But Kaori, (ten at contract age) she's probably going to start having a worried mother (again) in a year or two.
Well, she's getting good practice at gradually aging herself via illusion, I guess? I'm not sure what you're getting at: do you think we should spend time training aging illusions for all our members? If Seto's group joins we'll definitely have the meguca-power for that; otherwise we might need to prioritize.
 
Well, she's getting good practice at gradually aging herself via illusion, I guess? I'm not sure what you're getting at: do you think we should spend time training aging illusions for all our members? If Seto's group joins we'll definitely have the meguca-power for that; otherwise we might need to prioritize.

I'm saying that you can't have illusions running all day every day. The grief cube cost would be enormous. And what happens if you let the illusion slip one day? It'd be better to try and figure out how to age.

I'm saying that illusions cannot solve this issue. We'll have to pass it off as medical condition somehow. But it raises the fact that aging is going to start becoming an issue. College, employment, etc.
 
Looking at the CKII quests, you only really need events every five or so turns. On average.
@inverted_helix I think it can also be randomized too. If 8 turns go by without an event I'm sure we won't be too upset if we previously had 3 events over the space of the previous 8 turns.
It's more I'm trying to brainstorm more things to throw at the players in general. Civ quests tend to try to bury players in a variety of problems, but a lot of them are ruled out by either my current world building, or by my moderate attempts at hanging close enough to canon to be recognizable. (Like the lack of other magical races/creatures besides meguca, demons/witches, and vaguely the incubators; though I might move a bit away from that simply because it opens up a lot more options and there are a lot of mythical creatures that sound kinda sorta like demons in this quest if you squint.)

Also awkward because I have a couple ideas I might use, but not sure how good they'd be and I'm a bit burned by the police incident on how well I can execute them.

I'm saying that illusions cannot solve this issue. We'll have to pass it off as medical condition somehow. But it raises the fact that aging is going to start becoming an issue. College, employment, etc.
This is one of the few big planned issues to throw at you. I might have had a memory error in thinking that age-lock was still an issue in To The Stars in their time period, but even you admitted they had early issues with it and had to move at least a few times as a result early on. Well, you'll need to find some methods of your own to deal with it.
 
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