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All of that only makes my point more valid, actually. The Gellar field produced by a Zerg Warp-wormhole would by necessity be far, far weaker than the one made by an Imperium ship:
  • They make the tunnel all at once along the entire length of travel, rather than generating a bubble to travel within.
  • The Zerg make their own Warp shadows, like the Tyrannid only weaker because there's less of them, which degrade their own Gellar field.
Between those, the Gellar field must be barely there; should the Zerg ever gather large enough numbers to cast the kind of Shadow that the Tyrannid do then Warp travel would become as impossible for them as it is for the Tyrannid.

Normally this wouldn't matter, because there's not much in the Warp that the Zerg would fear. But here, today, the Warp is dark and full of terrors, held at bay only by a soap bubble-strength field.
 
Aeshdan said:
Sorry to rain on the parade, but according to this analysis, which was approved by torr, Zerg FTL travel doesn't require them to enter the warp at all. They create a conduit of realspace through the warp, essentially a Geller bubble with both ends connected to wildly separated points in truespace. Ynnead would not have any opening to get at the Leviathan.
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ok, lets focus on letting the emperor recover his psyker powers and undergoing a retraining regimen with his sons to get back into combat readiness.
 
God, nothing more embarrassing and awkward then having your dad attempt to keep up with you during your work out.

...actually wait, it would be really awkward for both Adam AND Ynnead to be both doing that. Talk about family awkwardness.
 
Ruirk said:
God, nothing more embarrassing and awkward then having your dad attempt to keep up with you during your work out.

...actually wait, it would be really awkward for both Adam AND Ynnead to be both doing that. Talk about family awkwardness.
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hey to be fair he has been physically laying about for over ten thousand years and would still keep up pretty well with them so he's not that bad :p
 
tri2 said:
hey to be fair he has been physically laying about for over ten thousand years and would still keep up pretty well with them so he's not that bad :p
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It would still be this hilarious dialogue of him still talking about all the shit he's seen and the previous training he'd accomplish over his entire life...with more confusion in the mix.

"Did I tell you boys about when I helped train the ancient Spartans? We all had to carry rocks on our back, swim through the Mediterranean, and fight packs of monsters and shit!" Adam pauses for a moment, "Or was that I was training with the Nipponese Samurai? I was fighting monsters somewhere. I also remember rocks were involved, a lot of heavy rocks. I think I might have used those rocks to kill some monsters...it was that or that or more bare hands. Which reminds me of that time I was learning from ancient Ming monks in the Himalayas...that also involved a lot of heavy rocks, but more rock climbing than swimming."

Just tangents like that, moving from historical points of when he was leading Roman armies to when he battled the Jovian Trade Princes during the Age of Strife.
 
TheEyes said:
All of that only makes my point more valid, actually. The Gellar field produced by a Zerg Warp-wormhole would by necessity be far, far weaker than the one made by an Imperium ship:
  • They make the tunnel all at once along the entire length of travel, rather than generating a bubble to travel within.
  • The Zerg make their own Warp shadows, like the Tyrannid only weaker because there's less of them, which degrade their own Gellar field.
Between those, the Gellar field must be barely there; should the Zerg ever gather large enough numbers to cast the kind of Shadow that the Tyrannid do then Warp travel would become as impossible for them as it is for the Tyrannid.

Normally this wouldn't matter, because there's not much in the Warp that the Zerg would fear. But here, today, the Warp is dark and full of terrors, held at bay only by a soap bubble-strength field.
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There's also the fact that there wouldn't be any need for the races of Starcraft to develop powerful gellar fields, since there aren't any actual daemons, or innately hostile warp predators.
 
Icipall said:
There's also the fact that there wouldn't be any need for the races of Starcraft to develop powerful gellar fields, since there aren't any actual daemons, or innately hostile warp predators.
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...Then what was that thing that nearly killed the Exalted Greater Daemon a while back? A honey badger that ascended to the Warp?
 
ArchAIngel said:
...Then what was that thing that nearly killed the Exalted Greater Daemon a while back? A honey badger that ascended to the Warp?
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To be fair, that exalted greater daemon had been getting its ass kicked rather thoroughly.
TheEyes said:
All of that only makes my point more valid, actually. The Gellar field produced by a Zerg Warp-wormhole would by necessity be far, far weaker than the one made by an Imperium ship:
  • They make the tunnel all at once along the entire length of travel, rather than generating a bubble to travel within.
  • The Zerg make their own Warp shadows, like the Tyrannid only weaker because there's less of them, which degrade their own Gellar field.
Between those, the Gellar field must be barely there; should the Zerg ever gather large enough numbers to cast the kind of Shadow that the Tyrannid do then Warp travel would become as impossible for them as it is for the Tyrannid.

Normally this wouldn't matter, because there's not much in the Warp that the Zerg would fear. But here, today, the Warp is dark and full of terrors, held at bay only by a soap bubble-strength field.
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You.
I like you and the way you think.
 
ArchAIngel said:
...Then what was that thing that nearly killed the Exalted Greater Daemon a while back? A honey badger that ascended to the Warp?
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The Greater Daemon was pretty much half-dead when it got eaten. If there were hostile daemons in Starcraft-warp, they'd have better protections against them. You cannot really protect yourself from things you don't know exist. Well, the protoss might be an exception, since they know more about the warp than terrans or zerg.
 
I get the impression that the Terrans and Zerg are unaware of the existence of warp creatures because they lucked into a propulsion system that acts as a Geller field. This luck caused them to never realize the danger they face when they enter the warp.
 
Fouredged Sword said:
I get the impression that the Terrans and Zerg are unaware of the existence of warp creatures because they lucked into a propulsion system that acts as a Geller field. This luck caused them to never realize the danger they face when they enter the warp.
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Indeed. And since there aren't daemons actively trying to break through, they don't even realize there are things to fear in the warp.
 
Also, Geller fields are sort of all or nothing. It's ether on or off. It can blink (and that's bad) but it doesn't get weaker/stronger. From what the breakdown suggests, Terran FTL that blinks boots them into realspace. Still no demons.

I wonder if our warp goddess can force the Leviathan back into real space though. It should be possible by forcing the tunnel to destabilize.
 
Fouredged Sword said:
Also, Geller fields are sort of all or nothing. It's ether on or off. It can blink (and that's bad) but it doesn't get weaker/stronger. From what the breakdown suggests, Terran FTL that blinks boots them into realspace. Still no demons.

I wonder if our warp goddess can force the Leviathan back into real space though. It should be possible by forcing the tunnel to destabilize.
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Gellar fields can't be weakened? I admit I only know about this stuff from wiki entries, but there's a few references to Gellar fields weakening in those. Anyone have something more definitive?
 
Can someone tell me what, if anything, the Zerg answered? I can't read the garbled code text thing on my computer.
 
Romv said:
Can someone tell me what, if anything, the Zerg answered? I can't read the garbled code text thing on my computer.
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Here:

...and speaking of attempts, you have finally received back an audio signal from the Zerg.

"The human attempts to speak with the Swarm. That's new - Speak then. What is it that you wish to say?"

"Greeting Zerg, I am Malcador the Sigillite of the Imperium. With whom am I speaking to?"

"You may call me Naga. I am the Master of this brood."

"Then, greetings Naga. I would like to ask, what is your objective here? This is Imperial space, and we would rather not have hostilities break out so close to our civilians. Though we do not wish to fight, we shall if you engage first."
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A bizarre, almost haunting, laughter sounds over the vox.

"My goal you ask? The Queen of Blades has commanded me to find the psychic aberration she felt."

You're getting a bad feeling about this.

"And what, pray tell, will she have you do once you found this... aberration?"

"Why, consume it for the Swarm, of course"
 
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