[DISCONTINUED] In the Beginning, There Was Man (WH40k x SC)

...Huh? When? I thought it was fucking around and heading towards the Khala. Was tinkering with a bit of writing about it getting there and getting rekt by Tassadar. Cite?
Found it, here you go.
The reverse teleported only worked as well as it did because they were Space Marines + the Emperor and a ship. While you can keep using it, the consequences of prolonged exposure to the Warp without Terminator suits is not a good thing. That being said, teleporting termies that can exfil using a reverse teleport is quite a boon. ;)
Hey I was wondering... that hide from the warp tech we can figure out from the crystal aliens.
If we finalize that, can we use that combined with this trick?
Cause I have the most marvelous trolling ideas from this. :p
 
I guess it's safe to say that there are more Leviathans floating around? Anyway, now that we know K isn't just tooling around the galaxy randomly and can safely open fire on any Leviathan immediately.
I think that's what they diplomance crowd was worried about: if this was Kerrigan, and we accidentally wrecked her, that could have been trouble.
 
Random Omake in response to the update. Isn't this the way things are done in this thread?

Timeline wise, about right after things settle down from this debacle:

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Adam, after getting an earful from his sons, his best friend, and his wife, of which the last one made his mind still hurt, had finally found peace in a chamber that one of his Marines used for training.

He had asked to be alone, for a moment, to give himself time to meditate about the whole debacle that had happened. He had been reckless; perhaps pulled by the hormones that getting a body once again that wasn't a husk, perhaps pulled by the bloodlust that his Marines had in them, perhaps he had been too used to leading his people at the front.

Regardless, he had been reckless. Also, he had put too much trust in his capabilities that had been too long in lack of use. There were many mistakes that he had made, though he was content that his men he lead had suffered little due to the timely help that the Krork had given them. Thanks to a creature that had once been an anathema, but that was the new age, the new world that he now inhabited. His wife was much the product of this new age as well, for that matter.

Adam stood, taking a stance, his grip on the training sword firm. He swung into motion, a steady dance of blades, confirming the whole slew of skill he had to come back into form. That the Power Sword failed at that moment was worrisome, but in a way it confirmed that he needed to heal more before he would do that level of recklessness again; he had almost died to Horus after all, and indeed that was a painful memory.

He relished the moment as he clove down another imaginary enemy, remembering the long gone past where he was but one man. One powerful man, but still a man.

Still, as he flew across the motions, he felt a presence enter the chamber.

Adam turned to see a Space Marine, clad in a simple cloth alike how Adam was now clad with, holding a training sword. The Space Marine stood firm. While his head was inclined in the manner that showed reverence, his form showed that he had a word to say to the Emperor, even though his sons had said it for them.

Rodrick Wilhelm was the name of the Marine, the High Marshal of the Space Marines as Adam remembered.

Adam heaved a sigh. Too long he had slumbered in his Throne, too long he had suffered in the state of limbo, to have shamed his own Marines in such a manner.

Words were unnecessary. Adam took a stance, facing the Marine, and the Marine understood the motion as he himself took up a stance facing the Emperor.

Adam greeted Rodrick's assault upon his person, facing blow for blow with his own, understanding each and every word that the blows delivered, facing yet again the anger that his people felt of his reckless actions. Yet, a part of him relished such emotions from his people, since they were directed at a Man, not a God, and Adam was once again humbled by his own humanity.

It was good to be human again, in a way. That he could be held responsible for his own actions, not a being that was believed to be always successful in everything. While he knew that the people he sought to protect would never see him that way, and he knew well that if they did he had failed them, but that he could now lower his guard in the way he now did, as he faced the Marine, his own son in one way, in this manner relieved him greatly that he now had flesh of his own again.

Soon, they stood facing each other, neither making a move. They stood, their swords crossing each other, locked in a stasis due to both men exerting their power. But it only held for a moment, as both men disengaged the melee by stepping back.

The Marine bowed deeply, then after kneeling and making the sign of the Aquila, turned to leave the chamber.

Adam saw him leave, again with the Chamber silent beyond his own breath. Again, he was now the Emperor, a symbol of his people, not a Man, in that short moment of action by the Marine. But this time, he welcomed it, for even when he sensed doubt in that Marine, it was eased away by such simple interchange, a crossing of blades.

It hurt his heart to remember that he failed his sons in that manner, leading to the fall from grace that included himself in that fall. A simple heart to heart would have done wonders, perhaps...

Yet Adam looked forward, as he went around to tidy the chamber as was customary, as this was a new age, a new world, an exodus. He would come around and aid his people, then when the time was right, go back to the universe he left with all the might of an angry God, as was the role he now accepted.

He left the Chamber with his resolve firm.

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Why did the thread try to fucking go all white knight diplomacy with goddamn zerg?
What excuse do the people who wanted to send the boarding party have?
I think that's what they diplomance crowd was worried about: if this was Kerrigan, and we accidentally wrecked her, that could have been trouble.

There was the possibility that Kerrigan was aboard; true, and several people said the proffered picture was her own personal leviathan which did lend weight -- if she was aboard, it would have been very advantageous if we could rescue her, and even a capture would have been a great win. Aside from that, the possibility to get bioships integrated into the krork 'tech'-base, so that our orks could have "space squiggoth" to ride into battle.

We're the goddamn Imperium of Man, we shoot the shit out of aliens who just want peace and happiness, why did we decide to give all consuming malevolent space bugs the benefit of the doubt?

Because we are virtually extinct. Statically-speaking 0.00% of the human race survived the Exodus -- in addition to this, we don't even have all of our current population out of hibernation, we don't have the industrial base we need to support any war, we don't have the agriculture-base to feed the people we do have.

IOW, if we just pick fights here we will lose.

Overall, not the optimal choices, but hardly a disaster.

I agree.
There's also the possibility of another assault.

Can't do it with the psi-blades because they run off psi energy. You know, the reason they want people to noms, so they can use that shit on a major scale?

Except the zerg are psionically active.

Anyway, I think we can all agree our Krork has earned his place around the weekly poker table.

:) -- Yep.
It was a Christmas present.


EDIT: Also, we got to burn through a lot of the negative-modifiers we'd accumulated.
So, I'd say that while it wasn't a success, it was (overall) only a minor failure.
 
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2d6 = 1, 1
+ 15 (Omake bonus)
I have very mixed feelings about this result.
"The Custodes will take too long to gather, spread out across the fleet as they are, and destroying the bioship will gain us nothing. The Mechanicus needs live specimens, not burnt out husks!"
*Remembers how such experiments typically end when it comes to the Zerg or Tyranids*
"My sons... I will lead this force. The Imperium has made due without me for fourteen thousand years, and though it required my intervention to save even this paltry fleet, it will continue to survive without my presence, should anything go wrong. However, I am more than capable of handling myself and the Company. Allow me to go in both of your steads."
That should be made do.
1d100 = 29 --> - 35 (Accumulated malus) - 15 (Shadow in the Warp) + 16 (Ynnead's Psyker Rating)
Minor Critical Failure!
So, did you forget to deduct psyker rating for this attempt that ended in a minor critical failure or are we working on a system where you only lose psyker rating if you succeed at something?
One of its tusks impacts against your side, and you are sent skidding. You are unable to recover fast enough as a tendril lashes out from behind the pool and throws you into it; a sunken colony, your mind unhelpfully provides.
That'd be a spine crawler, a sunken colony would be one that comes out of the
Fifteen minutes pass as the Space Marines wreck havoc within the Leviathian. The creature is taking enough internal damage that signs are starting to show on the outside, but that damned Shadow in the Warp is only getting stronger.
That should be wreak.
"What solution?"

"Weeeeeeeeellllllllllll I waz slee-err waz awake an' seriously watchin' da boyz make dis contrapshion. 'Fer science!~' Dey sed. But anywayz it'z a reverse teleporta. I'm uzin' it nao ta get back empy and hiz boyz. Oh, an' also dat renegade ship too."
Ork ex machina saves us from our bad decisions, I suppose.
You open your eyes and see a blue sky above you. You try to lift your head and find that the viscus liquid that you were submerged in is sticking to the grass beneath you, preventing you from lifting you head more than a few centimeters before your hair got caught.
That should be viscous.
Oh, yeah. Because Kerrigan will so be able to reproduce DAoT Power Field tech with Zerg bioforms. When they can't do the same with Protoss psi-blades, despite having dozens of examples available. Yeah.
Hey if we can theoretically get up to X-Comesque reverse engineering shenanigans then turnabout is fair play, right?
Something like virusbombing, only focused solely against Zerg.
With no Nurgle... well, it's an interesting field of resarch.
Considering how stuff like that led to the Noxious strain of Ultralisk, are you sure you want to try that?
That's Feral Kerrigan, she's Daemon Prince level (11 for psychic powers) but we're talking about Brood War-WOL Kerrigan
She'd still be an utter powerhouse in melee, especially if she's got the spawn broodlings ability (take a scratch from her and prepare to get eaten from the inside out).

*goes into trauma flashbacks from brutal All In*
 
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Hey is we can theoretically get up to X-Comesque reverse engineering shenanigans then turnabout is fair play, right?

We had that option, instead of going that route we chose path for bonuses to Human/Eldar[/Krork] tech with some penalties to reverse-engineering. (Not a prohibition on reverse-engineering, just enough that trying to XCOM the entire thing would be both long and difficult.)

She'd still be an utter powerhouse in melee, especially if she's got the spawn broodlings ability (take a scratch from her and prepare to get eaten from the inside out).

Perhaps.
I think Adam might have enough psychic energy to defend that as-is, and even if he didn't he does have a superior immune system.
(So who knows.)
 
We had that option, instead of going that route we chose path for bonuses to Human/Eldar[/Krork] tech with some penalties to reverse-engineering. (Not a prohibition on reverse-engineering, just enough that trying to XCOM the entire thing would be both long and difficult.)



Perhaps.
I think Adam might have enough psychic energy to defend that as-is, and even if he didn't he does have a superior immune system.
(So who knows.)
To be fair, having DAoT Human Tech, Eldar Tech and Krork/Old One Tech all together pretty much ensures that we win at Science forever once the R&D train gets going.

The only way it would be better is if Necron Tech was included directly in the bonus. But instead, we have DAoT Human Tech as an indirect link to it.

I really agree that we lost little and burned through a good deal of our negative modifiers, though. That's a big win for us in the long run.
 
Like I said before, I consider this overall a very good win. We got the Zerg to back off and the Dominion aren't in a fight with us either. As of right now we are back in a peaceful situation, which is good.

Adam fucking up in this fight doesn't really harm us in a way, tbh. Shit no one else even really saw it. Plus I kind of like the idea that Kerrigan is going to underestimate us the next time we get engaged in a fight since we were pretty exhausted at this point.
 
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Like I said before, I consider this overall a very good win. We got the Zerg to back off and the Dominion aren't in a fight with us either. As of right now we are back in a peaceful situation, which is good.

Adam fucking up in this fight doesn't really harm us in a way, tbh. Shit no one else even really saw it. Plus I kind of like the idea that Kerrigan is going to underestimate us the next time we get engaged in a fight since we were pretty exhausted at this point.
Did not think of that.

Yeah, we can definitively work the underestimation angle. Especially once we incarnate Ynnead.
 
Congratulations @torrmercury , the latest update made me shat my pants in public at the segment where the Emperor was nearly kidnapped by the Zerg scum. The atmosphere and fallout was thrilling to say the least....:oops:
 
First; great chapter with some awesome combat!

Now, let's see what we actually gained and lost:

Pros:
  • Burned through lot of maluses
  • No losses or minimal losses
  • Drove the leviathan away with 100 marines and Adam which showed our strength, should help with future negotiations
  • We know what the Zerg were after
  • Gained WORKING ork teleporta, mostly intact Terran battlecruiser and the Ghosts
  • Learned more from both Raynor and Jenkins, showed us how Raynor and his group deem to be the better bunch
  • Showed us what jackasses the Zerg are and we now have an IC-reason to shoot them on sight
Cons:
  • We used a lot of bonuses
  • We may have lost some space marines
  • No Zerg-material gained (sorry to get off tangent, but assault on the bioship was a fucking stupid idea)
  • The Zerg now have information of us, and our tech in form of a power sword and drop pods
In all fairness, I'd say this was a very minor victory.
 
Eh, that sword was built by rote. The designs are so backwards, fussy, and filled with literal junk components that it is likely pretty hard to reverse engineer. The Zerg are operating with a different tech base and no point of reference. The only time we see the Zerg with tech is when they consume a tech using organism who is currently using said tech. Every other time they assimilate something, it's biological. I see no signs that they are even capable of building a bio copy of hard tech. If they could, one would think they would have done so to Terran and Protos tech by now.
 
Personally, I think the Zerg will get some use out of the sword, but it won't be in the form of better melee bioweapons thanks to bullshit reverse engineering that makes no sense. No, it'll be improved carapaces and increased resistance to power weapons, gained by Kerrigan (or Abathur, I guess) slashing various strains and generations of Zerg with it until they have evolved to resist it. At least partially, power weapons are pretty hax, AFAIK.

Simple, but effective. (isn't this basically how Zerg evolution works? I'll admit my knowledge of SC lore is a bit lacking...)
 
Personally, I think the Zerg will get some use out of the sword, but it won't be in the form of better melee bioweapons thanks to bullshit reverse engineering that makes no sense. No, it'll be improved carapaces and increased resistance to power weapons, gained by Kerrigan (or Abathur, I guess) slashing various strains and generations of Zerg with it until they have evolved to resist it. At least partially, power weapons are pretty hax, AFAIK.

Simple, but effective. (isn't this basically how Zerg evolution works? I'll admit my knowledge of SC lore is a bit lacking...)
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No, not really, besides only way to stop power weapon is psykery, other power field, some other kind of force field.
 
Yeah, how 'bout we don't let the leviathan escape. I don't want them having space marine genetics.

(Warning: Rightious anger incoming)
In addition to that, they think they can just waltz in here and everything will go exactly as planned? That they are so powerful that they can send a single leviathan to do away with us? I want to show them the price they will pay for their hubris, and the weight of true failure.
 
So Old One (which is the tech base the Krork basically use, right?) teleportation tech.
Pretty damn sweet, it should be better than DAoT teleportation tech.
If we expand on this, it could potentially become some sort of spatial manipulation tech.

And oh, wouldn't that be nice.

...Krain? Read the invisitext in that update. It's still alive. Barely, but...
...Huh.
Happened a while ago.
Did I miss the invisitext before...

Eh, if they bled, their genetics are there. Zerg are kinda BS like that.
Don't think they got anything from this mess.
The teleportation stuff should've taken everything back, because the old ones are bullshit like that.
 
Don't think they got anything from this mess.
The teleportation stuff should've taken everything back, because the old ones are bullshit like that.
Yeah I guess your right. Well if we are not on the leviathan anymore.... We do still have exterminatus capabilities right? How about we have Adam and/or ynead use psionics on the broodmother, rip information from her head? Last time I checked you can't smother the psionic presence of a god with a little shadow in the warp. If all 4 chaos gods at once couldn't do it then there is no way the Zerg can.
 
Yeah I guess your right. Well if we are not on the leviathan anymore.... We do still have exterminatus capabilities right? How about we have Adam and/or ynead use psionics on the broodmother, rip information from her head? Last time I checked you can't smother the psionic presence of a god with a little shadow in the warp. If all 4 chaos gods at once couldn't do it then there is no way the Zerg can.

Yes, you can. They just did, it was literally spelled out in the last update. Without a material anchor, Ynnead can't punch through the barrier and the Shadow together, and Adam's just about nil for psykery at the moment.
 
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