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Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)

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HanEmpire said:
Paragon Industries and ParSec are already working for Cerberus. Revy just hasn't realized it yet.
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I wouldn't be surprised if all of the spies would infiltrate and then realize that Revy was doing a better job at uplifting humanity then Cerberus ever would and then stop reporting in. I mean Cerberus was all about either protecting or uplifting Humanity from alien aggression and we've kind of kicked them out of there own nitche without having all the human experimentation.

Why would our PMC commander have complete access to classified records and hardware?
 
cageorks said:
ballpark 11.5 to 12.5 billion
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Ah. No. Those population numbers are for when Mass Effect 1 Alpha Version was meant to happen in the 2080s. And said numbers fit the UN's own calculations from the early 00s on how big Human population could get by 2100. Bioware forgot to change their pop numbers when the suits forced them to make it a more distant future-y date of 2180s at one minute before midnight of the setting creation process because the older Silenter/Boomer shareholders were feeling physically ill about being so temporally close to some "prugresive nudity sex dream" like out of the "despised and hated 1960s". Yep, back in the 00s, Mass Effect 1 was seen as hyper progressive.
Guess the Culture War never ended for these fuckers, who would have thought! If someone wants sources for this, there are only dead links because it was the early-to-mid 00s when this happened. So don't take my word as holy writ because I cannot back it up in this case.

So back to the question. What would be the Human population in 2180s with cheap space travel and infinite real estate? I think the 20+ billion ballpark would be about right.
 
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tri2 said:
[ ] Improved Colonization/Bioforming Genetics Package [800] (Requires Biology Skill Rank B): Increase the speed of safe bioforming and amount of types of worlds that could be changed to be habitable, bringing down the timeline from centuries to mere decades. Would open up much greater range of worlds the package could apply to. (Biotech)
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@tri2 seeing as we have projects that don't pay of for decades are you going to push back the start of the game's events for a few decades ? cause other wise stuff like the action above would be a waste of time

I can see a few good ways to push back the time line that would make sense , like for example the reapers really prefer to invade through the citadel so much so that they are willing to wait a few decades for the opportunity but why though because its the primary control node for the mass rely network allowing them to control who can and can't use it leaving the rest of the galaxy as sitting ducks to be wiped out at their leisure , it contains all sorts of intelligence and strategic information that will make things go a lot smoothly for the reapers (it being the center of galactic government) plus who doesn't want to have the element of total surprise at the start of a war for that devastating alpha strike

The problem is the Protheans know this as well in fact they experienced it first hand which is why a group of them that managed to wait out the reapers snuck into the citadel and disabled the the reaper's back door control locking them out of it , This is the entire premise of what the reapers are up to in mass effect 1, they are trying to find out what the Protheans did to the citadel , how they did it and how to find a way into the citadel to undo it .

This is the reason the beacon discovered on Eden prime gets the reapers to start acting more openly as its is likely the first real lead they've found on what the Protheans did hence if you delay the discovery of the beacon on Eden prime you can delay the start of the game's events .

mind you during all that free time waiting for a lead to turn up the reapers won't be sitting on their ass doing fuck all instead they will likely finalize all sorts of plot threads from the first and second game like Saren will finish his secret krogen clone army as well as retake control of the rachni on novaria for his own use , the Collectors will likely be building up extensively with multiple Collector ships rather than the one along side more intensive operations and sovereign will likely spend all that free time to finish subverting the geth and upgrading them
 
Red Bovine said:
So did anyone do the math for how big the human population numbers should be? By that I mean did actual math so that the numbers actually make sense? Because as noted before the writers kind of messed up the scale and many fans pointed out that the numbers should realistically be a lot bigger for a lot of things in canon.
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Depends heavily upon what aspects of the setting you are changing.

According to the timeline the first Luna colony was established 2069 on the 100th anniversary of Apollo 11 and the first Martian colony on 2103. Eezo was discovered 2148 and the Charon Relay 2149. Humanity's first extra-solar colonies were established starting 2152. The First Contact War occurred in 2157. It is currently 2174.

Following this timeline humanity's extra-solar colonies contribute basically nothing to our population because they've only been existence for a single generation. So all our population growth has to have taken place within Sol.

Current projections from the UN suggests that human population will peak around 2100 at 10.9 billion and basically zero growth. Honestly that is probably a fairly reasonable value for Mass Effect and in line with the canonical Earth population (11.4 billion) considering that Earth is suffering notable climate damage including oceans raising 2m and frequent violent weather effects. The other colonies in the Sol system don't really contribute much canonically as I outline here with the total Sol population only increasing over Earth's by 8 million which is reasonable enough considering Luna and Mars (93% of the non-Earth population) are basically uninhabitable outside (expensive) arcologies. Overall I don't really think the numbers given in Mass Effect for population are really that unreasonable for a civilization that only left its home system a generation ago.


However for the sake of argument lets consider something of a best case scenario. The highest growth rate shown by the UN projections (Constant-fertility) puts us at 21.6 billion by 2100 with a growth rate of 2.114% per year. Continuing that projection out to 2175 gives 103.7 billion people. That does make humanity more competitive on the galactic scale although still well behind even unreasonably low projections of the other species* out there.

*Take the Turians for example. Lets imagine that the Krogan Rebellions, the last major galactic conflict, were unbelievable (as in literally unbelievable) and reduced a millennia old space fairing civilization to just 10 billion people. Lets further say that despite being quite similar to humans they only averaged a 0.5% year on year population growth in the 1,375 years since the Krogan Rebellions ended. That alone is enough to bring them up to 9.5 trillion. Even if we assume they are limited by available territory, which would be odd but okay, they have at least 18 systems (Palavain + 17 Turian Unification War colonies) and from the earlier human projects we are assuming a single solar system can support at least 60 billion so that alone should be 1 trillion or ten times the best case scenario for human population.


Now you could make some fairly significant changes here by adjusting the timeline of human expansion. However that runs into serious issues. For example if you say we started opening Relays back in 2100 that would give four generations of colony populations which while still low would help bump up human populations. However that requires either pushing back the First Contact war ~50 years or somehow justifying how humanity, which was rapidly expansionistic at the time, didn't run into aliens for 57 years of opening every Relay they could find.


Honestly a lot of the claims about humanity, and a fair number of its feats, in canon would be a lot more reasonable if the timeline was more spread out. As I've mentioned previously a fair number of canonical characters should actually remember the discovery of Eezo. In fact considering Revy was born 2154 while Eezo was discovered 2148 (6 years prior) Revy's parents should remember a time before Eezo. If you spaced things so that humanity discovered Eezo in 2148, spent the next century colonizing the neighborhood with FTL ships, discovered their first Relay (which for this probably wouldn't have been Charon) and increased Relay distances such that they spent decades expanding before running into the Turians that would probably make things more reasonable. A 24th century Mass Effect humanity would have first wave colonies with ~150+ years of growth and development behind them creating a strong core followed up by post-Relay colonies with two or three generations creating a vulnerable but valuable outer regions that we've be conflicting with the Batarians over.
 
UberJJK said:
Depends heavily upon what aspects of the setting you are changing.

According to the timeline the first Luna colony was established 2069 on the 100th anniversary of Apollo 11 and the first Martian colony on 2103. Eezo was discovered 2148 and the Charon Relay 2149. Humanity's first extra-solar colonies were established starting 2152. The First Contact War occurred in 2157. It is currently 2174.

Following this timeline humanity's extra-solar colonies contribute basically nothing to our population because they've only been existence for a single generation. So all our population growth has to have taken place within Sol.

Current projections from the UN suggests that human population will peak around 2100 at 10.9 billion and basically zero growth. Honestly that is probably a fairly reasonable value for Mass Effect and in line with the canonical Earth population (11.4 billion) considering that Earth is suffering notable climate damage including oceans raising 2m and frequent violent weather effects. The other colonies in the Sol system don't really contribute much canonically as I outline here with the total Sol population only increasing over Earth's by 8 million which is reasonable enough considering Luna and Mars (93% of the non-Earth population) are basically uninhabitable outside (expensive) arcologies. Overall I don't really think the numbers given in Mass Effect for population are really that unreasonable for a civilization that only left its home system a generation ago.


However for the sake of argument lets consider something of a best case scenario. The highest growth rate shown by the UN projections (Constant-fertility) puts us at 21.6 billion by 2100 with a growth rate of 2.114% per year. Continuing that projection out to 2175 gives 103.7 billion people. That does make humanity more competitive on the galactic scale although still well behind even unreasonably low projections of the other species* out there.

*Take the Turians for example. Lets imagine that the Krogan Rebellions, the last major galactic conflict, were unbelievable (as in literally unbelievable) and reduced a millennia old space fairing civilization to just 10 billion people. Lets further say that despite being quite similar to humans they only averaged a 0.5% year on year population growth in the 1,375 years since the Krogan Rebellions ended. That alone is enough to bring them up to 9.5 trillion. Even if we assume they are limited by available territory, which would be odd but okay, they have at least 18 systems (Palavain + 17 Turian Unification War colonies) and from the earlier human projects we are assuming a single solar system can support at least 60 billion so that alone should be 1 trillion or ten times the best case scenario for human population.


Now you could make some fairly significant changes here by adjusting the timeline of human expansion. However that runs into serious issues. For example if you say we started opening Relays back in 2100 that would give four generations of colony populations which while still low would help bump up human populations. However that requires either pushing back the First Contact war ~50 years or somehow justifying how humanity, which was rapidly expansionistic at the time, didn't run into aliens for 57 years of opening every Relay they could find.


Honestly a lot of the claims about humanity, and a fair number of its feats, in canon would be a lot more reasonable if the timeline was more spread out. As I've mentioned previously a fair number of canonical characters should actually remember the discovery of Eezo. In fact considering Revy was born 2154 while Eezo was discovered 2148 (6 years prior) Revy's parents should remember a time before Eezo. If you spaced things so that humanity discovered Eezo in 2148, spent the next century colonizing the neighborhood with FTL ships, discovered their first Relay (which for this probably wouldn't have been Charon) and increased Relay distances such that they spent decades expanding before running into the Turians that would probably make things more reasonable. A 24th century Mass Effect humanity would have first wave colonies with ~150+ years of growth and development behind them creating a strong core followed up by post-Relay colonies with two or three generations creating a vulnerable but valuable outer regions that we've be conflicting with the Batarians over.
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SB had an absolutely fascinating discussion about population numbers for Citadel Space (not even talking about the total numbers for the Galaxy), these are the most constructive posts in that thread:

Too long; didn't read: The aboslute (ridiculous) minimum is 2 trillion, with 10+ trillion being considered the conservative minimum, and the maximum being 200 trillion. With the average number being 60 trillion. Just in Citadel Space.

Now you ask: "But Durabys! Why is the Citadel even entertaining notions of Human Great-Power-dom!?!?!"

Simple. Masterful Astropolitics play by the Council where the Systems Alliance is the useful sucker and patsy, that's why:

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That's not at all what was happening.

Humans were favored by the Council because human space bordered the Attican Traverse and the humans were super eager to settle what was the Wild West of space. That humanity was also willing to rival and contain the Batarian Hegemony, who were the assholes no one liked among the Citadel associate species. Humanity got favored because they happened to be in the perfect spot, galactically, to push Citadel interests on that end of space, and were perfectly willing to advance those interests in a way that the Citadel found politically viable.
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Operator said:
Essentially this^. The Systems Alliance is the perfect actor when it comes to necessary revisions in contemporary galactic politics on the far edge of the galaxy. Their proximity to the Attican Traverse, Batarian Hegemony, and Perseus Veil forces them to serve a mediating role, and it actually helps to push the Council's agenda without their direct intervention.

As noted by Anita Goyle, they're content with letting humanity act the way it has because the Council doesn't need to take direct intervention to combat threats in lawless or hostile regions, and any repercussions stemming from human contributions will fall solely on the heads of humanity, while any success will have to be accepted as being a result of the Council's own hand in affairs.

To provide greater clarity, since their entrance into the galactic scene the Systems Alliance has:

1) Taken up arms against the Batarian Hegemony's denial operations forces (Raiders and slavers) - their campaign has worn down the Hegemony's resources to the point where they can only afford to focus their energy and collective will towards one target (humanity typically being at the end of the sharp stick for all batarian affairs), instead of multiple Citadel associates and dozens of client races. This benefits the Citadel Council more then the SA.

2) Volunteered their own naval power to patrol some regions of the Perseus Veil in-place of Hierarchy Expeditionary forces. This benefits the Citadel Council, as they no longer need to continue permanently maintaining and sustaining long-range 'interdiction strike groups' operating in distant territory, awaiting an enemy that may never come.

3) Donated massive amounts of resources and credits and manpower to associate race projects and spearheaded diplomatic programs. To fund all these expansive endeavors, they must also open up their doors to foreign investments and alien markets, this is a ripe (though you could also describe it as 'untapped potential') situation for exploitation from corporate and political entities within Council space. In essences, reaffirming ownership and capital accumulation to aliens. I don't think I need to go into detail about who benefits from this relationship.

Their participation in galactic affairs and the consequences of their actions only increases with their rise to member status.

The Systems Alliance appointment to member status was trivial. They're the perfect scapegoat. Any of the Systems Alliance's success can be measured by the Citadel Council's awesome diplomatic/foreign policy. But any failures or repercussions are that of the individual (ex. Sidon), and will force the Systems Alliance into accepting greater loss of power overtime (ex. A Matriarch could wave her hand in disagreement at the direction taken by humanity in researching A.I technology and the entirety of Sol System suffered a sudden 30% spike in the energy sector and losses -> gains measured in billions of credits for a few months). What people don't seem to realize is that all of this comes down to potential and long-term investments - the benefits of integrating assets into the system early down the line. The Council saw the potential and put them on the leash. The Systems Alliance has and will always ultimately serve the Council's or its member's agenda, not the other way around.
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AKA: Humanity is the useful hammer for the Council: The Humans fuck up? It is on their heads and their own PR takes a hit for Team Citadel. The Humans do something totes amazing!balls? It is solely due to the Citadel Council's wise and planned out decissions made in the past and present that the Humans are productive members of Galactic society now!
 
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Early vote tally just to see how it is going.
Adhoc vote count started by tri2 on May 22, 2021 at 5:22 PM, finished with 259 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
    [X] License Production Out?
    -[X] No
    [X] Fortuna (1 trillion)
    -[X] Delay the purchase for three quarters (2175-Q3)
    [X] Decide to sell these drugs
    -[X] Require medical prescription for sales
    [X] Mech Write in: Titan Atlas & Prometheus
    [X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addiction effects of these drugs on humans.
    [X] Exodus (500 billion)
    [X] Arcturus (1.5 trillion)
    -[X] Delay the purchase for nine quarters (2175-Q3)
    [X] Fortuna (1 trillion)
    [X] Mech Design: Knightmare
    [X] Decide to sell these drugs
    -[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.
    [X] Exodus (500 billion)
    -[X] Delay the purchase for six quarters (2175-Q3)
    [X] Mech Write in: Titan Atlas & Prometheus Prometheus is the same just remove all the armor and anything else that is military related.The Atlas Titan is the first Titan produced by Paragon industrious for military use, it comes in at around 5.4 meters tall. And is powered by 20 Paragon industrious Arc reactors.
    [X] Mech Write in: Occupation and moral/champion (no idea what weapons help there)
    [X] Decide to sell these drugs
    -[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addiction effects of these drugs on humans.
    [X] Plan Questions & Explorations
    -[X] Exodus (500 billion)
    -[X] Ask Mordin who to contact in the Salarian Union to spread the treatment freely and fairly.
    -[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.
    -[X] License Production Out?
    --[X] No
    -[X] Mech Design: Knightmare
    [X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
    -[X] Also bring Mordin in on this so that he can help Sirta get it to as many people as possible as quickly as possible.
    [X] Plan Questions & Forge-world
    -[X] Fortuna (1 trillion)
    -[X] Ask Mordin who to contact in the Salarian Union to spread the treatment freely and fairly.
    -[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.
    -[X] License Production Out?
    --[X] No
    -[X] Mech Design: Knightmare
    [X] Plan March forwards in Time
    -[X] Arcturus (1.5 trillion)
    -[X] Mech Design: Knightmare
    -[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
    -[X] License Production Out?
    --[X] No
    -[X] Decide to sell these drugs
    --[X] Require medical prescription for sales
    [X] Fortuna (1 trillion)
    -[X] Make our intentions known that we will buy the other two planets on this list and do build ups on then over the following two quarters if they remain available to us.
    [X] PLAN: FUTURE PROOFING!
    [x] plan 1 step at a time
    -[X] Exodus (500 billion)
    -[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
    --[x] tell the Alliance what you are doing
    --[x] Work direct with the Salarian Government
    ---[x] with mordin being the diplomat
    -[X] Mech Design: Knightmare
    -[X] License Production Out?
    --[X] No
    -[x] Refuse to sell these drugs for now
    --[X] Do a run off clinical trials to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.
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[X] Arcturus (1.5 trillion)
[X] Mech Write in: Titan Atlas & Prometheus
[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
[X] License Production Out?
-[X] No
[X] Decide to sell these drugs
-[X] Require medical prescription for sales

Let me do my part in making that vote tally less messy.
 
I don't understand why the Knightmare is so popular... But I guess now the Titan has a Knightmare mode so we don't really need it anymore.

@cageorks @Koraan

Can you guys not vote in plan format? None of these things are really linked plus it's easier for vote counts if you don't. Plus Koraan appears twice for whatever reason in the tally...
 
LollipoPReapeR said:
I don't understand why the Knightmare is so popular... But I guess now the Titan has a Knightmare mode so we don't really need it anymore.

@cageorks @Koraan

Can you guys not vote in plan format? None of these things are really linked plus it's easier for vote counts if you don't. Plus Koraan appears twice for whatever reason in the tally...
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lol l thought was vote formate no problem l have a look and change the way l vote give me 5 mins.
Knightmare for me was l love the show it was in and l have never played Titanfall even though l own the 2 game

[X] Exodus (500 billion)

[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
-[x] tell the Alliance what you are doing
-[x] Work direct with the Salarian Government
--[x] with mordin being the diplomat

[X] Mech Design: Knightmare

[X] License Production Out?
-[X] No

[x] Refuse to sell these drugs

[X] Do a run off clinical trials to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.

done l hope better
 
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cageorks said:
lol l thought was vote formate no problem l have a look and change the way l vote give me 5 mins.
Knightmare for me was l love the show it was in and l have never played Titanfall even though l own the 2 game
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I don't believe that's accurate and IIRC it is also based off the Titan atlas.

But even if that's not the case (and this is by no means meant to force you to change your vote or anything like that but merely me stating an opinion) it's more beneficial to vote for the Atlas & Prometheus option. Simply because while not aesthetically similar to the show you are referring to. From an entirely statistical POV for the quest, it does incorporate all the features from the Knightmare option into it.


LollipoPReapeR said:
I don't understand why the Knightmare is so popular... But I guess now the Titan has a Knightmare mode so we don't really need it anymore.
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I guess it's because the people who voted for it aren't yet aware it was changed since they made their vote. And I'm not entirely comfortable with tagging them all to change their vote about it. Since to me it felt like a rude thing to do to @Daemon Hunter.
 
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[X] Mech Write in: Titan Atlas & Prometheus
[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
-[x] tell the Alliance what you are doing
[X] License Production Out?
-[X] No
[X] Decide to sell these drugs
-[X] Require medical prescription for sales
 
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Zealous Specter said:
I guess it's because the people who voted for it aren't yet aware it was changed since they made their vote. And I'm not entirely comfortable with tagging them all to change their vote about it. Since to me it felt like a rude thing to do to @Daemon Hunter.
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From what I've seen, it tends to be frowned upon to mass ping people. And I'm not sure if changing the post the Knightmare vote links to would be a good idea.
 
newwriter said:
Out of curiosity, What is the likelihood that Cerberus already has agents within Paragon Industries and Paragon Security? My belief is that the likelihood that Cerberus has agents in PI and ParSec is very high. Most likely, Cerberus has already infiltrated PI by having agents enter PI as researchers or posing as Ex-Alliance Military seeking employment in PArSec.

What does everyone else think?
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Nah there's not enough dead guys in Paragon Industries's labs for Revy to be working for Cerberus.
 
[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
-[x] tell the Alliance what you are doing

I'm open to some of the other riders for this option, but I want to spend money to raise the diplomatic standing of Humanity (and let the Alliance make what hay it can from this)

[X] Decide to sell these drugs
-[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.

Seems the responsible thing to do. I'm also okay with licensing out the formula for royalties, or if it turns out to be safe to make free have a limited 'for profit' run and then make the recipe open-source.

[X] License Production Out?
-[x] Yes

Our shipyards are best spend making LLPs, let other (lesser) shipyards make the appropriate conversions.

[X] Mech Write in: Titan Atlas & Prometheus

I like the Military/Industrial dichotomy. I'm also okay with making something like the Knightmare, but I'm currently of the opinion that it's not something we need at the moment but we could introduce it later.

[X] Exodus (500 billion)
[X] Fortuna (1 trillion)
-[X] Delay the purchase for three quarters (2175-Q3)

Seems a good cash sink, and I like the idea of setting up our own forgeworld.
 
We seem to have two separate variations on this vote that say the same thing but are being counted separately:

[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addiction effects of these drugs on humans.

[X] Decide to sell these drugs
-[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.
 
[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addiction effects of these drugs on humans.
[X] Mech Write in: Titan Atlas & Prometheus
[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
 
[X] Exodus (500 billion)
[X] Ask Mordin who to contact in the Salarian Union to spread the treatment freely and fairly.
[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addiction effects of these drugs on humans.
[X] License Production Out?
-[X] No
[X] Mech Write in: Titan Atlas & Prometheus

LollipoPReapeR said:
Plus Koraan appears twice for whatever reason in the tally...
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o_O
Oh, I get it. You overlooked that's two different plans.

edit: fixed vote... I used copy-paste, HOW there was a typo?! :o :facepalm:
 
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[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
-[x] tell the Alliance what you are doing
[X] Fortuna (1 trillion)
-[X] Delay the purchase for three quarters (2175-Q3)
[X] Decide to sell these drugs
-[X] Do a large-scale clinical trial to study the psychological addition effects of these drugs on humans.
 
If "Fortuna, but wait three quarters" wins with no other similar purchases, are we a) keeping the other planets on the market, and b) planning on paying before purchase or waiting three turns to shell out?
 
[X] Panacea for all! Work with Sirta and their developing network of clinics to spread the benefits of this technology far and wide, (-13 Billion Credits)
-[x] tell the Alliance what you are doing
[X] Fortuna (1 trillion)
[X] Decide to sell these drugs
-[X] Require medical prescription for sales
 
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Slamu said:
If "Fortuna, but wait three quarters" wins with no other similar purchases, are we a) keeping the other planets on the market, and b) planning on paying before purchase or waiting three turns to shell out?
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The point of that vote is to postpone payment until three quarters from now. That is because our current cash reserves are 2,137 billion with our projected income for the next three quarters being 1,955, 2,551, and 3,778 billion respectively. That might seem like a lot but I've got ~2,000 billion in planned construction scheduled and people have expressed interest in significantly increasing our lobbying funding which could easily absorb another 1,000 to 1,500 billion. We're also looking at a fair amount of construction the following quarter with the exact amount varying wildly depending upon if we need to pump more money into lobbying.

So it isn't until 2175-Q3 that we can be confident in having a spare 1,000 billion to spend on Fortuna.
 
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