One thing we might want to consider over the long run is that thanks to the way the Jungle works it is always more efficient to take land that has already been cleared than to hack into the wilds. That means a lot of our neighbors are going to be eyeing us, but at the same time it means that in the fullness of time we might want to take their land, especially if we can ally with some of the Amazons after freeing some slaves as a show of good faith. If we are going to make our money with say new world crops,m it pays to be if not the only one growing them than at least one of as few as you can manage.
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Actually a more likely and successful way of gaining the Amazon's trust and favor would be giving artifacts pertaining to the local Amazon's most favored old ones like most Amazon's believe in rigg great mother of the Amazon's as there high deity but different groups would favor different old ones like a more mage oriented Amazon's would place tepok and potec as there most favored cause they call upon them for favor in Magic use. More warrior like Amazon's would favor the likes of huanchi the jaguar god, tlanxa the warrior God, and quetza the defender. So if we're gonna do some adventuring let's give the Old one specific artifacts to the friendly Amazon's to gain trust and favor and maybe some settlers.
Edit: hopefully we get the friendly to the lizardmen type of amazons in the area which are pretty common cause I don't want a fight to break out on who gets which artifacts cause they are still children of the old ones.
Edit: hopefully we get the friendly to the lizardmen type of amazons in the area which are pretty common cause I don't want a fight to break out on who gets which artifacts cause they are still children of the old ones.
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Yeah, but that involves getting our hands on Old One artifacts which is far from guaranteed. Stabbing a Norscan on the other hand is something we can do at any time.
I'm stealing this to use as an actual argument from Flynn, during a council meeting to plan the next Expedition.
Also putting out there that half elves do exist and were shown in a gotrek & Felix novel encountered one and in the dan abnett Gilead book series one character is a half elf through there father's side. So Flynn and raps can have long lived pointy eared kids.
Another thing Is before we leave we should find some lesser lizardmen artifacts to give to a skink priest and that give us a big points towards good relations with them. Also on topic relations can we get some skaven slaves from estalia to gift them to skinks like Colombo did prior cause skinks would reward us for it with good foods and supplies and maybe some knowledge on how to find the safe plants animals to grow and sell and ones that will definitely try to kill us to avoid cause in the Colombo tale they did give food and information and even lizardmen cactus juice.
We are not allowed to trade in slaves by law... also we are not allowed to formally admit the Skaven exist
Dang just say the rat men are beastmen and we are doing an exchange for them to the lizardmen to gain resources and information In the land we are settling in. Just a suggestion take what you will but I'm only putting out pragmatically.
Cause lizardmen sacrifice trading for a good amount of resources would be extremely profitable for us starting up but I understand that It could be very distasteful but I'm just putting it out there as an idea. Also the skaven almost always deserve what Is coming to them. And if we don't do it right now let's go for a more back end deal for them to do the exchange more discreetly.
Also where are we settling again cause it gonna be important who we are near at.
Cause lizardmen sacrifice trading for a good amount of resources would be extremely profitable for us starting up but I understand that It could be very distasteful but I'm just putting it out there as an idea. Also the skaven almost always deserve what Is coming to them. And if we don't do it right now let's go for a more back end deal for them to do the exchange more discreetly.
Also where are we settling again cause it gonna be important who we are near at.
A note on location.
A note on Settlement Location.
The planned location chosen for the colony is going to be on the vast stretch of relatively stable, relatively dry* land between the Pirahna Swamps at the Amaxon's mouth and the Creeping Jungle which blocks off the coastline north up to the Isthmus.
The Isthmus itself is too rocky for easy colonisation, along with it being largely saturated in bad mojo by the lizardmen-antagonising Port Reaver, and Skeggi.
There is a possibility that y'all can choose to try further south, though that will risk entering the Vampire Coast's attention along with pissing off the Estalians and Bretonnians, who are currently competing for the Culchan Plains.
The currently planned landing spot will put your colony closest to the mysterious and in-universe unknown of Tlaxtlan, which is insular and largely self-focused.
*dry here indicating that the mud/bogwater only goes up to knee-level in the majority of places, and that in the dry season there are whole stretches where the land becomes walkable.
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Even if that would work, it is still a very bad look back in the Empire. Some things just aren't worth it reputation wise not to mention that we do not want the lizardmen known as 'those people who buy beastmen captives'.
any version of Rapunzel would never be a slaver, not even a slaver of AlwaysEvil!ratmonsters. Flynn might, but she'd talk him out of it.
Neat we are near a Amazon settlement east of us in the coast of xocibiki and to the north would be the temple of Kara which is an important Amazon religious site so good for us and importantly tlaxtlan is a temple city that has an actual embassy that has on occasion hosted warmbloods mostly elves so they are the friendly variety of lizardmen so good for us in the long run to have friendly relations with the local temple city in the area that hosted Marco Colombo himself in the distant past so they still possibly have translators who atleast speak brettonian on call for diplomatic meetings.
Also a good map lustria I was referencing.
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Also yeah I get your point but thats where back room night dealings come in for so that's for the future when we are more situated. So we should atleast gather some stolen artifacts to give to tlaxtlan to have good relations with them.
Also a good map lustria I was referencing.
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Vampire Poll.
I put up a poll while I'm writing these colonists and their interview snippets.
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Friendly vampires sound interesting. I mean if there is anywhere you would find one it's out here away from civilization and Lustria gives them a chance to turn their predatory urges to less troubling targets, from the powerful, magic rich animals which will likely sate the thirst for months or years to the Norscan raiders we were just talking about stabbing.
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it may come as a surprise to some, but I love vampires. Working with a friendly one would be cool, as long as he keeps a least some edge.
There are exceptions even in canon, so I do not think supposed to stands up to scrutiny. Can't argue with preference of course.
Konrad, washing the blood off your face and getting a snazzy haircut is fooling nobody.
Who even stitched your head back on?
Maybe there's a coven of friendly vampires who subsist on Lustrian animal blood somehow, but it turns their skin sparkly. Oh, and they have a fierce rivalry with a clan of wolf beast men in the area, and one of them falls in love with an apathetic colonist girl and turns her into a sparkly vampire too.
Oh, and they have a psychic baby that one of the wolf men imprints on, or something. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here really.
Oh, and they have a psychic baby that one of the wolf men imprints on, or something. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here really.
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I knew that would be brought up and I always have a response to that argument:
They are the exceptions (and very few at that) to the general rule. Less than 1% probably.
To each their own I suppose.
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That's Konstantin for you, swine! Do you really think Konrad is smart enough to write anything other than his own name?
Just as a note, I did ensure to put 'Friendly' and 'Sympathetic' over 'Allied'. For vampires, however willing they are to work with humans, are not creatures whom can ever truly ally with the living. They are fundamentally disassociated, always at least a step removed.
That is my interpretation, at the least. Even heroic vampires like Ulrika Magdova struggle to contain their natures, and they can only work with the living in large part by suppressing themselves to feign humanity.
Any non-enemy vampires (for however long they remain non-enemies) in Lustria will likely be those fleeing the cruel, despotic and often insane dominance of the Vampire Coast's reavers, notably Harkon and Noctilus.
That is my interpretation, at the least. Even heroic vampires like Ulrika Magdova struggle to contain their natures, and they can only work with the living in large part by suppressing themselves to feign humanity.
Any non-enemy vampires (for however long they remain non-enemies) in Lustria will likely be those fleeing the cruel, despotic and often insane dominance of the Vampire Coast's reavers, notably Harkon and Noctilus.
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We're an Imperial. I'd like to keep that in mind before making deals with vampires. If extreme circumstances force us to consort with the undead then we'll do that, but having one within our immediate circle, much less knowingly taking one on as an advisor, is potential grounds for treason and/or heresy. Now we'll probably have to deal with vampirates at some point or another because this is Lustria, but that doesn't mean we should cozy up to them. It is also in Lustria, so Imperial authorities are very far away. Stuff happens, but we're the Empire. We should act like it, a little bit.
Corpses should stay dead. That's my two cents.
Corpses should stay dead. That's my two cents.
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K von Carstein
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I just think vampires are super cool. Sure, most of them should be evil monsters, but I find it more interesting if some of them are more complex and can be interacted with without too much problems.