Theres a lot of weird stuff going on with god hand. For example, if someone has A rank strength and attacks him with a weapon will it do damage? Or if someone has an A rank sword but only B rank strength and are purely using the sword. Or if hes attacked by someone not using an A rank weapon or has an A rank strength, but has an A rank skill that is being used. Basically it depends on what A rank god hand is checking against.
Type Moon General
Meh
Rather Outraged
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No we're not. We all saw what that did when she unsheathed it. My problem was that she was making Herc Bleed when she was basically attacking him with a scabbard(granted a magical one that's made of wind) with B-rank Strength(which already includes Prana Burst) when Herc's supposed to Negate attacks of that Rank and below.
Meh
Rather Outraged
- Location
- Philippines
B-Rank Strength, C-Rank scabbard/weapon. Unless that stuff stacks, then i have no idea how it gets past God Hand.
The skill used is A rank though. So if it checks against the highest rank in an attack(everything being used to attack which includes prana burst) then the attack was A rank. For example what if someone has throwing daggers as an A rank skill(I know the highest we see is B rank). The daggers may be low rank, the strenght stat is probably low rank, but the daggers are thrown as an A rank skill. Will the A rank skill of throwing daggers pierce god hand.
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Like someone has said before Fate series is like a glorified vs debate. Anyone from SV or SB would be insane not to try and debate this. Hell if they didn't find problems with it I would have to take away their Debate card.
Edit: I do think you are right. The story is more important and the people who care about the fine details of the fight are few and far between. In reality most people will think "Fuck it Saber is badass so with enough skill while using a badass sword she should give Berserker a flesh wound or two."
Even most long time typemoon fans probably won't obsess over the ranks. Some will but most are going to enjoy the fight scenes and the story.
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Meh
Rather Outraged
- Location
- Philippines
Rank of a Skill doesn't necessarily translate to the Rank of an Attack.
It's a sheath that's meant to disguise Excalibur, including supressing the Holy Light stuff that let Saber kill Herc this ep.
EDIT: Escalibur w/IA is stated to have an attack of 80-90, unsheathed it's 1000. TBH I have no idea what to make of this.
IA boosts cutting power but supresses the Holy Light stuff, which itself boosts the power even more?
Excalibur<Invisible Aircalibur<Golden glowycalibur
We have been given canon parameters and skills that involve said stuff. Stats, Ranks, Skills, and such are all given. Compatability is also given. Fate is a Vs. bait.
EDIT: Currently looking through this https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ/edit and asking around.
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Meh
Rather Outraged
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- Philippines
Yeah, the soundtrack is kinda underwhelming so far.
But if that's the only explanation for the events that happened then wouldn't it be sensible in this case to assume that it did translate?
Grue
滅亡迅雷
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More reactions from the Lancer guy
-Kirei's manipulating everything
-He forgot what happened to Gil.
-He has no idea how they can kill 'Zerkee, thinks they'll kill Ilya
-Everthing is awesome
-Kirei's manipulating everything
-He forgot what happened to Gil.
-He has no idea how they can kill 'Zerkee, thinks they'll kill Ilya
-Everthing is awesome
Mizu
Software Developer
- Location
- Victoria, Australia
I liked this episode. The callback to Zero was nice, with the new scene of Rin VS Illya. The transforming bird familiar were surprising.
I liked how Shirou recognized Archer's sword arrows by looking at the remains of one, and was somehow able to detect when Archer was about to shoot another one. Side effect of who Archer is?
I liked how Shirou recognized Archer's sword arrows by looking at the remains of one, and was somehow able to detect when Archer was about to shoot another one. Side effect of who Archer is?
Meh
Rather Outraged
- Location
- Philippines
Not if she never made him bleed with just IA and prana burst in the source.
Eh, I give up. I have no idea, I'll just wait for new extra material to see if this gets explained. In the meantime I'll just look around.
ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
- Pronouns
- They/them
I'm going to go ahead and predict that this glaring inconsistency won't be explained in extra material.
Mostly because it's so unimportant I can't believe it was even mentioned.
Mostly because it's so unimportant I can't believe it was even mentioned.
I think the assumption was that it would be the same length as Fate/Zero. Of course, I don't have a citation for that, but it has been the figure I've seen bandied about.
trob030490
Professor Kokonoe
- Pronouns
- she/her
I guess you missed the continual "but you're a woman, you can't fight!" lines. There's a reason it's called Fate/Stay in the Kitchen at times. He was sexist as hell to Saber and it constantly grated on me.
I like all the little nods to continuity. Puts certain lines in a much more interesting/humorous context.
"Who are you?"
"Shirou."
"K."
"Emiya Shirou."
"..."
"... I'm gonna call you Shirou. I like how that sounds."
The pause made the scene.
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Aioria
The Gold-fanged Lion
I suppose you never read the VN? Only watched the anime?
I never watched the anime, but his inner dialogue on the VN made it pretty obvious that he didn't really believe that, he was just looking for an excuse to keep Saber from harm.
He never said that to Rin for example, and he never does anything like that in the other routes, just Fate, where he is in his most stupid.
trob030490
Professor Kokonoe
- Pronouns
- she/her
That's what I've been told by my friend who played/read the VN and got me watching any of this initially. We all actually started watching the current one on his word last night. He brought cookies and beer.
trob030490
Professor Kokonoe
- Pronouns
- she/her
I did. I'm not really a fan of alcohol so that was mostly for the two of them while I just sipped one, but watching a bunch of things, talking about things, etc was quite nice.
The only thing I'm liable to call bullshit on in the Berserker fight is Saber's newfound super-clinging powers.
How exactly was she supposed to stop Berserker from bringing his axe-sword up again? She only weighs 42kg.
That's less than a sixth of Berserker's weight. The Berserker with A+ Strength.
That should have resulted in nothing more than her flying straight up.
How exactly was she supposed to stop Berserker from bringing his axe-sword up again? She only weighs 42kg.
That's less than a sixth of Berserker's weight. The Berserker with A+ Strength.
That should have resulted in nothing more than her flying straight up.
Cannongerbil
I came here to nep at you
- Location
- Soviet Lunar Base
...You are talking about supernatural warriors who can send themselves flying at supersonic speeds and break all the laws of physics on a regular basis, and you are questioning their weight. Really?
I am worried about it when Saber somehow pins Berserkers sword in place by placing one foot on it and pressing down.
Superhuman strength straight up does not apply in that situation past a certain point. I don't care how strong Saber is, if she isn't heavy enough that Berserker cannot move her(and he sends her flying around a couple of times), then she has accomplished nothing.