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So I just caught BlazingAzureCrow's Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Abridged. Its shocking good. While in its early days I would rate it very highly, comparable if not exceeding Fate/Cero it manages to be legit funny and play impressively well off the source material.

It swings between comedy and surprisingly serious/insightful matters fluidly. There were a lot of really interesting details and references that I enjoyed: EMIYA getting dubbed Actually Satan was funny and just well worked. Saber having issues over Fate Zero events and constantly side eyeing Shirou because trusting someone with the last name Emiya is hard for her right now. Kirei and Gilgamesh are looking really promising. Ilya and Rin both are gifts that just keep giving.

EMIYA is really well handled in this. His fond exasperation with Rin, sarcasm and freaking out under the stoic mask all feel right for him. Also the contrast between hero fanboy/wannabe Shirou and him is played in a interesting way.

That exchange after Archer nukes Berserker with Shirou staring in awe saying "I want that" and EMIYA hearing him and saying in this barely constrained rage whisper "No, you don't".

Damn if I ever move ahead ahead with the Fate Alt Quest I have in the works I am using dialogue from this.
 
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After suffering a head injury, Guda wakes up in an upscale mansion referred to as the Kogetsukan (虚月館, "house of the illusory moon"; in antiquated Japanese, 虚月 is "crescent moon"), in the presence of a friend from university -- a girl by the name of Juliet Violet (Stheno). She's come to the mansion with her twin sister, Harriet (Euryale); her younger brother, Cain (Mephisto); her family doctor, Hawthorne (Moriarty); and her parents Adamska (Lancelot; or should I say, Ocelot!?) and Eva (Raikou), so as to discuss her upcoming engagement with the heir of the Gordy family.

Apparently, the head of the Gordy family, Aaron (Fionn), received a threat from an unidentified party, stating that if his son, Morris (Mordred), doesn't have his engagement with Juliet cancelled, tragedy will befall his house. Thus, for purposes of finalizing the plans for his son's engagement without disruption, he decides to engage for purposes of security the services of the Marble Company -- an organization that may or may not be a front for a Chinese Triad, reputed to enforce any contract they accept to their utmost ability.

Built by a deceased Japanese architect, the Kogetsukan is an isolated vacation home that belongs to the Marble Company; whose location is apparently known only to those with the connections with the Company. Being that the Company apparently evaluates the Gordy engagement to be of importance, the mansion is at present staffed by Ann (Taiga), the 2nd in line to succeed the head of the Company; and Wu (Yang Qin), the 5th in line. Assisting them is a young man by the name of Chris (Bedivere), who recently came into their employment.

Accompanying Aaron are his second wife, Dorothy (Marie), his son Morris, and his daughter by Dorothy, Rory (Bunyan). Morris is his son by his previous wife, who is now apparently deceased. As an extra measure of security, Aaron hired the services of a private detective by the name of Sheringham (Holmes).

However, it seems that Aaron intentionally neglected to inform Sheringham of the location of the mansion -- possibly as a test of his skills. Even as Ann gives that such a feat shouldn't be possible, Sheringham manages to find his way to the mansion -- and for whatever reason, Aaron was shocked at his arrival.

After a bit of confusion regarding Dorothy's missing necklace, Guda wakes up at Chaldea -- where Mashu gives that she suddenly passed out for no reason. As in the dream, the date is May 7th, 2017.

After she discusses the details with Mashu, Holmes, and Moriarty, it's posed that based on the immense abundance of unnecessary details, this so-called "dream" may in fact be a sort of mental connection forged with an actual individual, currently at the mansion. It's impossible to tell what will happen if the individual that Guda is seeing the perspective of is killed.

As advice, it's given by Holmes and Moriarty that the individuals within the mansion may have been substituted with Servants from Chaldea in Guda's perspective owing to some sort of unconscious filling-in of information as a manner of managing the vast quantity of perceived details being transmitted, as per the instinct of the brain. Ergo, it's entirely possible that the "assignment of identities" isn't necessarily arbitrary or without meaning. However, Holmes warns against trusting in observations of appearance.

As Guda is drawn again into her "dream," the curtain rises upon the case of the Murder at the Kogetsukan.

Incidentally, the episode titles for this event appear to be the Decalogue of Father Knox, listed in order. (Being that there might be at least one Chinaman on the premises, the Decalogue has already been violated ... ?)
 
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The Curious Fan said:
Translation for the first part of the mystery is out.

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I really like that they've changed the type of event up like this. It's a pretty nice change of pace, actually, going into a mystery-style thing. Though I'm saying that as someone who's pretty fond of the mystery genre myself, so just a touch of bias.

Something is definitely up with Chris (Bedivere), being the new one. Twins being present probably means that a twin switch is going to happen.

Also, arranged marriages, dead wives (and the children of said wife) and a fancy mansion, probably filled with secret passages? This is going to be some classic murder mystery stuff.
 
Some observations / guesses based on the first two episodes:

  • The culprit probably isn't Wu, because he's a Chinaman (?), and because Yang Qin has inexplicable shapeshifting powers. It makes him too obvious a culprit in a murder mystery.

  • The culprit probably isn't Hawthorne, because he's Moriarty -- and that's too obvious. Unless being obvious is meant to be a trap of some sort ...

  • So far, the members of the Violet family appear uninclined to have reasons to oppose the engagement -- excepting Juliet herself, for obvious cause? Though she hasn't really stated anything that sounds like it might be a motive.

  • The only member of the Violet family that is so far explicitly suspicious is Cain -- but only because he's Mephistopheles. Also, whatever happened to Abel?

  • Being that Adamska is represented by Lancelot, has he cheated on his wife? Presuming that this is case, does he have some sort of blood relation with Morris (by Aaron's first wife?) that would make an engagement between Morris and his daughter problematic?

  • We know that Raikou would do anything for her children. Is the same true of Eva?

  • Given that the location of the mansion is known only to those associated with the Marble Company, Sheringham likely has an accomplice amidst the cast -- or a mole within the Company. If indeed a mole exists, it's most likely Chris, because he's supposedly new.

  • Also, is it a coincidence that three apparently unrelated individuals -- Morris, Chris, and Adamska -- are represented by Knights of the Round? Do they share some relationship?

  • The Marble Company supposedly runs its business on a reputation of fulfilling its every contract. Taking this at face value, it would appear unlikely that Ann would engage in violence against her guests. However, what if there were some sort of prior contract ... ?

  • Aaron's reaction to Sheringham is unexplained. Did he hire Sheringham as a matter of going through motions, so as to make it seem as if he's taken actions to allow the engagement to proceed? That is, even though it would appear that he wishes for the engagement to take place, does he have some reason to oppose it that he doesn't want Sheringham to uncover? Is the occasion itself some sort of plot that he doesn't want Sheringham to investigate? Is Sheringham going to consequently turn up dead?

  • Dorothy is Aaron's second wife. In the event that there's a matter of deciding right of succession, it's likely that she would want Morris' inheritance for her daughter. Also, it's notable that she's represented by Marie, who by reputation wasted the finances of her husband ...

  • Given that Morris himself is sort of exaggeratedly masculine in personality, there might be a story behind him. As in, maybe his behavior is intended to conceal something? Maybe the fact that he's represented by Mordred is indicative of some secret that would have him oppose the engagement?

  • It would be a violation of the Decalogue, but does Guda's POV character have some sort of attachment to Juliet that would justify hostility to a potential fiance? More to the point, it's strange that Guda's POV character is even present at what should be a private occasion ...
 
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Those ten rules of detective novels don't allow for that, though.

I mean, Christie did it anyway, but she could actually write well. I'm not convinced whoever's writing this can.
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Ah, but does it really? The relevant rules are:
  • The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow.
  • The detective must not himself commit the crime.
The person who Guda is possessing is neither someone whose thoughts we have been allowed to follow, nor the actual detective themselves. Guda is possessing them, not actually them. The situation here is closer to them being in a coma, and Guda impersonating them.

That said, since they're effectively in a coma right now that effectively rules them out as the actual murderer. But, they might still be the one who sent that letter...

Also
Even though there's no certainty or proof, Mr. Adamska must be the good-for-nothing family patriarch oozing with uselessness.
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Ouch, Mashu.
 
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GilliamYaeger said:
The person who Guda is possessing is neither someone whose thoughts we have been allowed to follow, nor the actual detective themselves. Guda is possessing them, not actually them. The situation here is closer to them being in a coma, and Guda impersonating them.
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Ah, yeah, that's true. Though, that's kinda a letter-of-the-law rule lawyering that ultimately violates the spirit of the Decalogue. If indeed the POV character is the culprit, being the detective that solves the case, Guda would end up having to conclude, "Therefore, I'm the only person who could've committed the crime."

That said, we won't know until later, but there might be time lapses between Guda's POV adoption, allowing for the character she possesses to commit any murders off-screen.
 
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Ah, yeah, that's true. Though, that's kinda a letter-of-the-law rule lawyering that ultimately violates the spirit of the Decalogue. If indeed the POV character is the culprit, being the detective that solves the case, Guda would end up having to conclude, "Therefore, I'm the only person who could've committed the crime."

That said, we won't know until later, but there might be time lapses between Guda's POV adoption, allowing for the character she possesses to commit any murders off-screen.
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Well, we've already violated "All Supernatural or Preternatural Agencies Are Ruled out as a Matter of Course" as part of the premise. Something has tethered Guda's soul to that unknown person, after all. This might be a story that deliberately violates every one of the laws, by spirit or the letter. From what I can tell...

  1. All supernatural or preternatural agencies are ruled out as a matter of course.
  2. No hitherto undiscovered poisons may be used, nor any appliance which will need a long scientific explanation at the end.
  3. No Chinaman must figure in the story.
  4. The stupid friend of the detective, the Watson, must not conceal any thoughts which pass through his mind; his intelligence must be slightly, but very slightly, below that of the average reader
...we've already violated these four. This is the Nasuverse, so the first is violated as a matter of course. The second is also likely violated through the first, since the method by which Guda was brought here will likely be explained at the end. We've got at least two Chinese gangsters floating around, and Guda's twin 'Watsons' are Holmes and Moriarty. Who are the exact opposite of open with their thoughts, and are far more intelligent than the reader is.
 
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  1. All supernatural or preternatural agencies are ruled out as a matter of course.
  2. No hitherto undiscovered poisons may be used, nor any appliance which will need a long scientific explanation at the end.
  3. No Chinaman must figure in the story.
  4. The stupid friend of the detective, the Watson, must not conceal any thoughts which pass through his mind; his intelligence must be slightly, but very slightly, below that of the average reader
...we've already violated these four. This is the Nasuverse, so the first is violated as a matter of course. The second is also likely violated through the first, since the method by which Guda was brought here will likely be explained at the end. We've got at least two Chinese gangsters floating around, and Guda's twin 'Watsons' are Holmes and Moriarty. Who are the exact opposite of open with their thoughts, and are far more intelligent than the reader is.
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I would argue otherwise.

Let's presume, hypothetically, that Guda's possession of the POV character is unrelated in any way to the crime. Removing Guda from the context of the story, it's entirely possible that nothing supernatural is involved; and any complicated explanation relevant to her presence may be unrelated to the precise method of the crime.

The spirit of the No Chinamen rule is essentially the same as the No Supernatural and No Complicated Explanations rules -- namely, that there cannot be a means of murder unknown to the reader.

The phrasing of the rule has its basis in the notion that Orientals may possess access to bizarre martial arts techniques that might be used to commit murder by esoteric means unfamiliar to Western audiences; and in the context of a murder mystery, that sort of thing is "unfair," on the level of author fiat or deus ex machina.

Ergo, even if there are literal Chinese characters in the cast, so long as the No Complicated Explanations rule is intact; and excludes from consideration the use of any means of murder unfamiliar to the reader, the No Chinamen rule is not violated.

Likewise, Moriarty and Holmes are not necessarily the Watsons. The Watson is traditionally the character at the scene of the crime that poses the wrong solution to the whodunnit. Moriarty and Holmes haven't done this just yet -- and might not do so. The murder(s) hasn't taken place yet, and it's unconfirmed as to whether Guda would even be able to consult with them in the later stages of the event.

That said, it's only been two episodes so far. It's entirely possible that the story will wrack up rule violations as it goes on.
 
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... so, the first victim was Sheringham, the private investigator.
  • Cause of Death: Determined by Dr. Hawthorne to likely be poison, though the method of delivery is unknown.
  • Time of Death: Estimated by Dr. Hawthorne to have been late at night, though it's also noted that the weather is hot. This may throw off the condition of the corpse.
  • Discovery: During breakfast, by Chris.
  • Remarks: Sheringham requested that Ann provide him with tea late at night, along with two cups -- one for a right-handed individual, and the other for a left-handed individual. It seems that Sheringham himself was right-handed.
As the Marble Company intentionally isolated the mansion from all means of external communication so as to prevent disruption, the authorities cannot be contacted at this time. Further, the fathers of the two families are resolved to continue with the finalization of the engagement despite the murder; though curiously, Morris seems fine with calling things off.

Being that Guda's POV character is the only one present on the scene not in the direct employ of the two families, she's considered to be a neutral party. Therefore, Wu requests that she take the role of the detective for the time being.

Chris and Juliet accompany Guda and Dr. Hawthorne in a preliminary evaluation of the scene of the crime, and of Sheringham's corpse. In the course of discussion, it's revealed that Chris was taken in by the Marble Company as something like a ward -- and consequently regards the employees of the Company as his family. Thus, so as to uphold the Company's word and reputation for service, he offers himself as a poison tester during meals -- stating that he would readily die on the Company's behalf.

Making an excuse to get Chris to leave the transportation of the corpse to the cellar of the building (because it's out of the way, and because temperatures are cooler) to Guda and himself, Dr. Hawthorne reveals himself to have been a long-time friend of Eva -- apparently from before she was married; and uses the opportunity to explain to Guda the circumstances behind the engagement.

Apparently, the Violet and Gordy families have been involved in some form of organized crime for a number of generations. Originally, they were rivals -- but as organizations foreign to their territory have recently begun to encroach upon their holdings, the patriarchs of the two families resolved to merge their organizations through a political marriage. The services of the Marble Company were engaged specifically as a contract upheld by their reputation wouldn't be contested by the members of either faction. Hawthorne himself is personally opposed to the marriage, however -- stating outright that believes Morris Gordy to be nothing but a worthless punk, undeserving of a bride like Juliet.

Upon returning to the upper levels, Hawthorne and Guda witness a minor altercation between Juliet and Morris -- the latter of whom expresses a desire for the engagement to be switched from Juliet to Harriet. However, Juliet refuses, just prior to an intervention by Chris. When Guda subsequently approaches her, she explains that she's going along with the engagement to keep her sister from being used as an instrument of families' future. This is, she states, her obligation as the eldest daughter of the Violet family.

Immediately following this explanation, Guda's POV character falls unconscious, and Guda reawakens at Chaldea. Moriarty gives that she's been asleep for about an hour -- to which Guda responds that four hours have passed within the dream. After some critique on the criminal's general style by Moriarty, Holmes gives that the Gordy Company and Violet Inc. are indeed actual corporate entities, based out of a certain American city -- but that aside from bits and pieces regarding Aaron Gordy and Adamska Violet, little information has been uncovered on the other members of the cast.

Incidentally, Eva Violet apparently has a habit of openly flirting with young men in front of her husband. During breakfast, she invites Chris to come and "play" inside her bedroom ...
 
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Something from Brynhildr's Interlude:


Interlude - Dear My Little Sister (JP/EN) said:
＠ ホームズ・Holmes

ーーーそうとも。
-- Indeed.
何せ、かの「ゴーストライナー」だからね！
For such are at any rate those 「Ghost Liners」 aforementioned!
境界記録帯（ゴーストライナー）。
Liminality Record Belts (境界記録帯, kyoukai-kiroku-tai) / Ghost Liners.
人理に紐付けられた英霊なる上位霊格、
[Of those] Higher-Order Spiritual Dispositions (上位霊格, jou'i reikaku) that are as Heroic Spirits bound to the Human Order --
その恐るべき力の一部を瞬間的に借り受ける術式でさえ、
if a Thaumaturgical Formula (術式, jutsu-shiki) were to momentarily borrow even a portion of such frightful power,
たとえば時計塔に於（お）ける分類で言うところの降霊魔術、
it would even amidst what is categorized at the Clock Tower as Spiritual Evocation Magecraft (降霊魔術, kourei majutsu) --
俗に言う召喚術の中でも別格の難度とされている。
or Summoning Craft (召喚術, shoukan-jutsu), in the colloquial -- be of an exceptional difficulty.
低位の魔獣や亡霊の召喚とはまさしく格が違う。
It is of an order entirely distinct from the summoning of lower-standing(低位, tei'i) Demonic Beasts (魔獣, majuu) or Wraiths (亡霊, bourei).
稀有（けう）であり、脅威の存在なんだ。英霊は。
Heroic Spirits. They are as prodigies; existences of incredible menace.
そなものにあろうことかエーテルによる実体を伴わせ、
Were such beings extant, and let to corporealize by use of Ether;
肉体と、生前に近しい人格まで与えて現界させるーーー
manifested (現界させる, genkai-saseru, "surface unto the manifest reality") in the flesh; and bestowed even with a personality alike to what they held in life --
これを奇蹟と言わずして、さお、何と呼ぼう？
if such were not to be called a miracle, what indeed would we call it?
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Interlude - Dear My Little Sister (EN) said:
＠ Holmes

-- Indeed.
For such are at any rate those 「Ghost Liners」 aforementioned!
Liminality Record Belts / Ghost Liners.
[Of those] Higher-Order Spiritual Dispositions that are as Heroic Spirits bound to the Human Order --
if a Thaumaturgical Formula were to momentarily borrow even a portion of such frightful power,
it would even amidst what is categorized at the Clock Tower as Spiritual Evocation Magecraft --
or Summoning Craft, in the colloquial -- be of an exceptional difficulty.
It is of an order entirely distinct from the summoning of lower-standing Demonic Beasts or Wraiths.
Heroic Spirits. They are as prodigies; existences of incredible menace.
Were such beings extant, and let to corporealize by use of Ether;
manifested in the flesh; and bestowed even with a personality alike to what they held in life --
if such were not to be called a miracle, what indeed would we call it?
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For purposes of comparison, castor212's translation of this on Beasts' Lair:
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Ghost Liner. Belt of boundary record. Superior spirit status that is the Heroic Spirits, connected to the Human Order. Among the, say, CLock Tower classification of spiritualism magic or more commonly known as summoning art, even the technique that momentarily borrows a part of such a terrifying power is extraordinarily hard to do.
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Auspicious timing indeed.

-The term Ghost Liner is used to differentiate Servants (recollections of phenomena recorded in the past summoned from human history itself) from familiars created by magus hands. The "liner" part represents that they're like scrolls or books rather than lifeforms. Sanda asked if there was an official term for heroic spirit and Nasu gave him Ghost Liner so that's why it gets used in Case Files.

Is something from the recently released HF BD, and also the term was used and detailed in the latest Case Files.
 
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Auspicious timing indeed.

-The term Ghost Liner is used to differentiate Servants (recollections of phenomena recorded in the past summoned from human history itself) from familiars created by magus hands. The "liner" part represents that they're like scrolls or books rather than lifeforms. Sanda asked if there was an official term for heroic spirit and Nasu gave him Ghost Liner so that's why it gets used in Case Files.

Is something from the recently released HF BD, and also the term was used and detailed in the latest Case Files.
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Says Mirror Moon:
FATE - Day 03 - 17 said:
"Familiar, huh...? Well, Servants are in that category, but they are on a different level. Because that girl over there is a Ghost Liner, considered to be the strongest of all familiars."

"Ghost Liner......? Then do you mean she really is a ghost?"

A human ghost that stopped living a long time ago.
The remaining minds of those with strong abilities, who remain in this world even after they die.
But that doesn't make sense.
A ghost doesn't have a body. A ghost can be only hurt by ghosts.
So, as I have a body, a ghost shouldn't be able to kill me.

"A ghost... huh? She's similar, but Saber would kill you if you compared her to one.
Servants are heroes of the past given bodies. Beings surpassing humans, more like spirits."

"Huh? Heroes of the past given bodies?"

"That's right. A legendary hero was pulled from the past or the present or whenever and given a body.
"Well, it's the role of the Master to summon them, and the Holy Grail does the rest.
It's impossible for a magus to give shape to a soul, so we're assisted by a strong Artifact."
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