According to Reddit, the skill is 20-30% NP Damage, flat +3000% Star Absorb and flat -20% Defense.

So technically not strictly better than Lancelot.
 
Medusa wasn't noticeably better than Ushi before her upgrade, I'd say. Their Noble Phantasms were directly comparable, and their Skills filled very different roles.
Medusa/Medea are FSN originals while Ushi/Mephistopheles are FGO poster Servants.

So that's an angle i was going for.
According to Reddit, the skill is 20-30% NP Damage, flat +3000% Star Absorb and flat -20% Defense.

So technically not strictly better than Lancelot.
Actually better than Lancelot, damn.

Fuck his NPBB will hurt so fucking much. Pop Prana Burst on him, use Instinct and then collect stars with that skill.

Of course, he can't farm hands which is all Lancelot is good for at the moment. At least he can look forward to strengthening quest sometimes in future.
 
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At least he can look forward to strengthening quest sometimes in future.
If Lancelot doesn't get a Strengthening Quest/Interlude around the time Camelot pops in, I will boop my pet turtle on the nose.

You hear that, DW? If you don't buff Lancelot, you'll have turtle-unpleasantness on your hands!
 
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I am annoyed that TM has this policy

"Worked for us? Don't make porn of our characters"

So no Godly Boudica blowjobs ever. At least we still have Kujikara Tamamo boobs
wut?

The fuck are you talking about.

a) There's a million artists still making porn of TM characters before, during and after their contract with TM. Just go check their pixivs and whatnot.
b) Fue has not, to my knowledge, every accepted a contract with TM.

Medusa/Medea are FSN originals while Ushi/Mephistopheles are FGO poster Servants.

So that's an angle i was going for.

Actually better than Lancelot, damn.

Fuck his NPBB will hurt so fucking much. Pop Prana Burst on him, use Instinct and then collect stars with that skill.

Of course, he can't farm hands which is all Lancelot is good for at the moment. At least he can look forward to strengthening quest sometimes in future.
3000% star absorb on Kiyo (base weight 9) is 270 star weight.

EAM's 3000% on Lancelot (base weight 10) is 300, or 600 if skill's maxed.
 
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Oh hey look it's that topic we got off of but now is being brought up again for some demented reason how about we don't do that again kthxbai
 
Pretty irrelevant though, unless you run Rider in your team. 270 is enough to get all stars you need.
Speaking from personal experience, no.

I've had 300 weight against a team of two Casters and lost decent amounts of my stars repeatedly. If you want to crit with 20-30 stars, you need more weight than that.

So.......What do you guys think LANCER!Kiyohime' s weapon will be? One of those pool noodle things?
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Speaking from personal experience, no.

I've had 300 weight against a team of two Casters and lost decent amounts of my stars repeatedly. If you want to crit with 20-30 stars, you need more weight than that.
Speaking from personal experience of someone who runs Herk/Waver/Kintoki, bullshit. It is more than easy enough for Herk to crit with 2030 stars + generated stars + Instinct even without any crit weight bonus whatsoever.

Like, how the fuck you can not crit reliably with 20+ stars and 300 crit weight?
 
Speaking from personal experience of someone who runs Herk/Waver/Kintoki, bullshit. It is more than easy enough for Herk to crit with 2030 stars + generated stars + Instinct even without any crit weight bonus whatsoever.

Like, how the fuck you can not crit reliably with 20+ stars and 300 crit weight?
That's because Berserkers have like, double-digit crit weight. Other classes not so much. Herc is the exception, not the norm.
 
Right now I just feel silly.

Though really, 20+ Stars really is not enough. That's an even spread of like, 40% per card? That might be what he means by losing stars.
Not with 300+ weight. Riders have around 200, usual is 120, casters dip down to 60 and zerkers around 10. If you run two Berserkers plus support it should be impossible not to crit on cards you want to crit. You only have to contend with one or two cards support got as other Berserker still has shit weight, and you'll easily get up to 5:1 trade depending on what support you are using exactly.

Like, it doesn't matter if you don't get all the stars as long as your Busters in NPBB combo crit. And if i can get 50% chance(i do have Waver with 2030 tho) on Herc's two Busters with his laughable weight, getting sure crits with Lu Bu's enhanced one should be piss easy.
 
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>Tesla: "Nonsense. I had no women during my life, that's all. A true genius is to be lonely. You're nothing but an ordinary person after all."
>Edison: "I am not ordinary, I'm a company president! I'm sick and tired of looking at you geniuses, like Bell-kun! I'm a company president who's skilled at employing geniuses like you! You can't understand that because you're a dumb idiot!"
>Robin: "Edison's regressed into a little kid!"

America is truly the best place ever.
 
>Tesla: "Edison, it'd be fine if you fell back before the beauty of this great thunder! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
>Edison: "Grr, to think you took vocal training just to do that unthinkably loud laugh! Fastidious as expected of a genius! But cut your crap, Tesla! You're nothing more than a weirdo! True genius is universal! Your words are just the prattle of a guy who stayed single his whole life!"
>Tesla: "Nonsense. I had no women during my life, that's all. A true genius is to be lonely. You're nothing but an ordinary person after all."
>Edison: "I am not ordinary, I'm a company president! I'm sick and tired of looking at you geniuses, like Bell-kun! I'm a company president who's skilled at employing geniuses like you! You can't understand that because you're a dumb idiot!"
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Tsundere~

Note to writers: If you specify that Male Character X "had no women during his life", fangirls (+Omegahugger) will take it as a carte blanche on slash-shipping.
 
Pretty irrelevant though, unless you run Rider in your team. 270 is enough to get all stars you need.

Also, Lu Bu.
Well, yes. But the way I read your post you were saying the buff's star attraction was better than Lancelot's, which is not true.
Although I'm not sure why I thought you were talking about Kiyo when it was Lu Bu.

--

Medusa
Mew translated Medu's interlude.
In which Stheno and Euryale arrange a date for Medu.

Also:
<Gudako> I'm a girl, though.
<Medusa> Yes, I don't mind. In fact…

Hah.

(And mashu be jelly)

>Final Ascension
>"Heh heh… what a foolish Master. Do you know what you've been working to raise? You've given me so much power, so you need to take responsibility… First… yes, offer me yourself as my slave, starting with your heart."
Medu plz you're too doormat to ever be S. :V
 
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Well, yes. But the way I read your post you were saying the buff's star attraction was better than Lancelot's, which is not true.
Although I'm not sure why I thought you were talking about Kiyo when it was Lu Bu.
Oh that. I was talking about them in general. Although they are not really that comparable, with Lancelot being more about farming while Lu Bu is single target damage dealer.

But that was pretty amazing buff to him, all things considered. He is pretty much almost 4* - i need to check Beowulf's numbers to see just how do they match-up.
 
It also serves to differentiate him from being just a Herakles-1 like he was earlier.

As much as I would've liked him to have a Guts Skill.
 
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