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Trails of Tera Steel (Kiseki-inspired Pokemon Academy Quest)

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Nerdorama said:
Her Trails equivalent, Lianne Sandlot, is also called a Saint, but I actually don't know if she was canonized-canonized by the Septian Church or if the localization just picked that up as the nearest English equivalent to 剣聖 (kensei, "sword saint", denoting a peerless weaponmaster).
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Actually, she was canonized after her death, found here: Trails in the Database
 
So, yes, but given that it's a one-off mention in what looks like CS4's profiles page, I feel justified in missing it for obscurity.

Also I need to remember that Trails in the Database is a thing.
 
Nerdorama said:
He's just a dilettante, however, compared to the D∴G Cult (the three dots are logic notation for "therefore", but you just pronounce it DG), an organization so utterly vile even the supervillain organization that hired Weissman went out of its way to help the continent's governments wipe them out in the backstory
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I always feel the need to point out that Ouroboros did not deal with the Cult on moral grounds. Nor did they actually help the multinational operation. They took out Paradise the year before the rest of the Cult was wiped out.

They just crush the occasional lesser group so they can take their stuff.

I will not believe any statement on the moral highground of the group containing Georg "Literally would have won if he could just avoid being the worst possible human being for five consecutive minutes" Weissman, F. "Just as willing to throw children's lives away for scientific experiments as the D∴G Cult was" Novartis and Ellroy "Helped the remnants of the Cult get back on their feet by setting them up with some assassins" Harwood.

Nerdorama said:
Mariana she shot beams at your head when you found her.
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Those were sad and fearful laser beams!

Bloody*Vermilion said:
Actually, she was canonized after her death, found here: Trails in the Database
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Good for her. It's so rare that people get to really enjoy a Sainthood. What with them normally being granted after 'death'.
 
LunaticPanda said:
I will not believe any statement on the moral highground of the group containing Georg "Literally would have won if he could just avoid being the worst possible human being for five consecutive minutes" Weissman, F. "Just as willing to throw children's lives away for scientific experiments as the D∴G Cult was" Novartis and Ellroy "Helped the remnants of the Cult get back on their feet by setting them up with some assassins" Harwood.
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Well, the Enforcers involved certainly seemed to enjoy getting to filet people who deserved it (considering the two we see are Weissman's biggest victims that makes some sense), but I suppose from a top-down standpoint it's more of a prison fight between "established guy with shiv" and "newbie with CSA on his rap sheet".
 
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Nerdorama said:
a 4x Fighting weakness sticks out massively when we are gonna be picking a fight with a punch monkey two or three times a month for the foreseeable future.
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x4 weakness to fighting isn't the end of the world when we have an immunity on our team, tbh. Of course, that's speaking purely in terms of a balanced spread of resistances; we already know Sunny has Dark coverage, but 'things can run coverage!' is an argument that can be used against any possible 'mon we could add to our team anyways. At the very least, the immunity remains a potential concern that opponents might have to handle before they can exploit the weakness, and that gives us tactical options.
LunaticPanda said:
No I will not be paying attention to all of the ways in which this trick doesn't work half as well outside of the game mechanics or how it only really works once per opponent at best before they catch on.
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I'd argue that it works about as well, just in a slightly different niche, tbh. Once the trick is well known, it becomes a latent threat. An opponent, knowing about the trick, will always have to decide between a one-for-one trade or refusing to exploit the weakness, knowing they will be punished for trying. And of course, if they refuse to exploit the weakness, then a bulky boi like Aggron can tank just about anything else they dish out...

It's a similar tactical niche to Destiny Bond, y'see? Though it has a lot of the same flaws, too, like the opponent sacking a Mon who was already too worn down to be of much use that fight, a few added flaws, like needing to be able to actually endure the hit unlike Destiny Bond which doesn't care about the user's health, and a few added benefits like not requiring the Aggron to faint, which might be leveraged to get a second kill if paired with Wish support or similar.
 
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I am well aware that this is likely a bad idea, but instead of just catching one of Charcadet or Tinkatink/any of the other steel types in the Heights, why don't we catch both? Sure, there are a lot of downsides (having four Pokemon this early on might make both Pokemon and character growth slower, potential character bloat, more stress for Mariana, etc etc), as well as Mary probably not catching any other Pokemon for a long time, but on the other hand, this does mean that both sides can get what they want: a Charcadet and a steel type.

Besides, if we do go for both Charcadet and Tinkatuff specifically, imagine the fangirling/fanboying of them both going to the Chapter House for the first time! It'd be great.

(yes I am biased for Tinkatink)
 
I'm not against the idea of both. Means no hunting for new pokemon for a long time after though.
 
Going for both at once is definitely piling too much on Mariana's plate. It'd be at least two actions considering they're in different locations (likely 3 considering Tinkatink has a prior requirement), and that's not counting training and Bond up actions. We do still have other things we want to get to this Exercise (interacting with the other group costs AP, and there's the poaching plotline), so better to go for one and hope we find the other at some point if it comes down to it.
 
and I'd just go for Charcadet. So that evens that out!

Karnax626 said:
Going for both at once is definitely piling too much on Mariana's plate. It'd be at least two actions considering they're in different locations (likely 3 considering Tinkatink has a prior requirement), and that's not counting training and Bond up actions. We do still have other things we want to get to this Exercise (interacting with the other group costs AP, and there's the poaching plotline), so better to go for one and hope we find the other at some point if it comes down to it.
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Proposal: We wait to catch and do the gym as the last possible actions.
After all, if we decide to do all the side-quests for a good grade, then we'll have access to all the sidequest mons anyway, including tinkatink, and then after catching whoever we decide on, we go to the gym, OR just get Renne to teleport us back here to do the gym later, reminder that we don't need to do the gym during the FE.
 
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Sakamander said:
Proposal: We wait to catch and do the gym as the last possible actions.
After all, if we decide to do all the side-quests for a good grade, then we'll have access to all the sidequest mons anyway, including tinkatink, and then after catching whoever we decide on, we go to the gym, OR just get Renne to teleport us back here to do the gym later, reminder that we don't need to do the gym during the FE.
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Wouldn't we want to catch it as early as possible during the Exercise though? If they're injured it'll give them more time to heal, and depending on their personality/strength we may want to train them and/or raise their Bond level before the gym. We can't assume they'll be gym ready from capture.
 
Yea this isn't a game, we can't assume they'd be gym ready immediately. We'd fight the gym either the Thursday or Friday of the field exercise according to the info post, and Roland might get injured if we do so later. So We'd want to catch a mon either Tuesday or Wednesday (first/second day) to give them time to heal and have a train with them.

This is another reason to go Charcadet, but Tink might be possible if we do both the right Mandatory and Optional task day 1. The right task might unlock later in the week though, so We'd have to choose between catching a Tinkatink and 2v3 the Gym.
 
Karnax626 said:
Wouldn't we want to catch it as early as possible during the Exercise though? If they're injured it'll give them more time to heal, and depending on their personality/strength we may want to train them and/or raise their Bond level before the gym. We can't assume they'll be gym ready from capture.
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Once again, I am pretty pointedly advocating for post-FE gym fight. So that doesn't matter as much. But regardless, If said pokemon was injured that badly we might not be able to use for the gym anyway, nor train them (I mean it's 4/3.5 days). Catching a pokemon before the Gym might even make it harder, as it goes from a 1v2 to a 2v3.

So point is: I still think we shouldn't do gym just yet!
 
Hm. So I know we have enough Field Exercises to get a badge for each, but I wonder if we should take the time to get at least one badge early in-between, so near the end of the year we don't have to deal with our pokemon being tired post-match and then immediately being dumped into the Plot. We get one or two badges early, and then for our last month or two this year -where the Plot is likely to be the heaviest- we can focus entirely on training, school and fighting conspiracies. Then of course the real final battle. Nemona.

This is just if we decide on the eight badges in one year thing. It's entirely possible I think, even if I think its also likely we cap out at around 5-7 badges this year. Probably 6 I think.

Sakamander said:
Catching a pokemon before the Gym might even make it harder, as it goes from a 1v2 to a 2v3.
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On the contrary! As it stands Roland will have to 1v2 the gym, and since the gym leader will almost certainly respond to her first pokemon getting stomped she'll send out a pokemon more on his level even while he's tired from beating the first one.

Meanwhile, if we catch a second polemon that changes everything (so long as it has 1-badge strength). Suddenly it's a 2v3, and now our two combatants now only have to fight the equivalent of 1.5 pokemon. I think with our SKLL we can manage to get a new catch and have it beat one pokemon and soften up another (or even beat it in the ideal scenario), then mop up with Roland who will basically be untouched.

Edit: Although you do have a point in doing the Gyms outside of FE's, that's an interesting strategy I haven't put a lot of thought into.
 
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Shadowphyre said:
I am well aware that this is likely a bad idea, but instead of just catching one of Charcadet or Tinkatink/any of the other steel types in the Heights, why don't we catch both? Sure, there are a lot of downsides (having four Pokemon this early on might make both Pokemon and character growth slower, potential character bloat, more stress for Mariana, etc etc), as well as Mary probably not catching any other Pokemon for a long time, but on the other hand, this does mean that both sides can get what they want: a Charcadet and a steel type.

Besides, if we do go for both Charcadet and Tinkatuff specifically, imagine the fangirling/fanboying of them both going to the Chapter House for the first time! It'd be great.

(yes I am biased for Tinkatink)
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From a purely AP-management standpoint on this FE, and a Bond Point management standpoint afterward, this is the worst possible thing we could do. As someone who is neutral on Tinkatink and would rather have a Nacli or Charcadet, I would rather just get the fucking Tinkatink and not spend literally all of the time we could be accomplishing things or dealing with the Gym (which will take something like a quarter to a third of our total AP for the week) chasing Pokémon and making the Gym battle harder.
 
Personally in favor of getting Charcadet and Just challenging the gym when we get there, 3 pokemon is plenty for a long while, especially when you tie our bond points into it, we just cant afford to be spread that thin between our party and our pokemon, we already have to play triage with only two pokemon, doubling that would be really bad for her social life. We were planning on 1v2 the gym anyhow in worst-case scenario, don't see why bringing in an actual second into the fight would hamper it.
 
Nerdorama said:
From a purely AP-management standpoint on this FE, and a Bond Point management standpoint afterward, this is the worst possible thing we could do. As someone who is neutral on Tinkatink and would rather have a Nacli or Charcadet, I would rather just get the fucking Tinkatink and not spend literally all of the time we could be accomplishing things or dealing with the Gym (which will take something like a quarter to a third of our total AP for the week) chasing Pokémon and making the Gym battle harder.
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Also same. I'd rather give up on Tinkatink and take an Aron, Pawniard or a Charcadet than grab more than we can actually spend time on.
 
Personally, im for a charcadet at this point mostly because I think we might be able to get a tink from the Order(if we join) which would mean that id prefer to try for someone else here, and I like the little guys
 
While I also would behappy witha Charcadet, I just read through the Nacli line's dex entries and their salt (at least in its final evolution) have really strong healing properties and suddenly it has instantly become one of my most favoured picks
 
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